# The Walking Dead; 5.09 "What Happened and What's Going On" (open spoilers) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [February 9, 2015, 12:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-09-what-happened-and-whats-going-on-open-spoilers/712169 "2015-02-09T00:51:22Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 18\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![Algernon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a183cd/32.png) [@Algernon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Algernon)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2015, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-09-what-happened-and-whats-going-on-open-spoilers/712169/101 "2015-02-10T17:08:47Z")
> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#): > > An extended “I see dead people” sequence is pretty fucking redundant in a series like this, I daresay. Heehee. This made me giggle like a little girl. Which is quite the accomplishment since I’m a gray-haired old man. ---
**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2015, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-09-what-happened-and-whats-going-on-open-spoilers/712169/102 "2015-02-10T17:24:51Z")
> [@Disgruntled\_Penguin](#): > > …Note: We have never seen anyone survive a zombie bite except Herschel. Everyone else was either eaten, killed or put down before they could die. Maybe Bob but then we have to assume that it was the virus that got him not the fact that he’d been carved up and eaten by cannibals who had no medical skills or medicines. I assume Herschel had access to antibiotic drugs to fight bacterial infection, and his family had some medical knowledge. The tourniquet, removing his leg, and a will to live, would have stopped the possibility of his dying from infection and/or blood loss. I believe Bob died from bacterial infection. The dirty, contaminated water in the basement had to be chock full of bacteria, and the bite of a dirty walker mouth only drove the bacteria deeper. No antibiotics leads to being written out of the show. Tyreese seems to have lost his will to live. The only voice in Tyreese’s hallucination (all of the voice’s in Tyreese’s hallucination belonged to Tyreese) reminding him that he had agreed to do whatever it took to help the group was Governor/Tyreese. Beth/Tyreese, and the sisters/Tyreese were telling Tyreese it was OK to die. Martin/Tyreese kept reminding Tyreese that Tyreese had fucked up. The Governor/Tyreese was the good guy. He was the only one encouraging Tyreese to live. ---
**Author:** ![Wile\_E](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c37758/32.png) [@Wile\_E](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wile_E)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2015, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-09-what-happened-and-whats-going-on-open-spoilers/712169/103 "2015-02-10T18:32:44Z")
> [@Dante](#): > > One of the pictures that Distracted Tyreese was looking at showed Noah sitting behind his two twin brothers. I believe brother #1 was on the bed, and brother #2 bit Tyreese. > [@Edward\_The\_Head](#): > > You’re not the only one that thought that Noah was the other twin. I don’t remember seeing a photo with three kids in it, though it’s hard to see them all. > [@mhendo](#): > > Yep. Not only that, but Noah talked about having twin _brothers_ (plural), meaning either that he had two twin brothers who were older or younger than him, or he was a triplet. Hmm … this all sounds familiar.:mad: ---
**Author:** ![tapu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/49beb7/32.png) [@tapu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tapu)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2015, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-09-what-happened-and-whats-going-on-open-spoilers/712169/104 "2015-02-10T19:25:51Z")
to…? ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2015, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-09-what-happened-and-whats-going-on-open-spoilers/712169/105 "2015-02-10T20:46:37Z")
> [@tapu](#): > > to…? Something about the sum of their ages being a house number and the product of their ages being 36, maybe. ---
**Author:** ![Tangent](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tangent/32/3098_2.png) [@Tangent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tangent)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2015, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-09-what-happened-and-whats-going-on-open-spoilers/712169/106 "2015-02-11T01:36:13Z")
> [@tapu](#): > > to…? Maybe Wile E has zombie twin brothers. ---
**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2015, 2:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-09-what-happened-and-whats-going-on-open-spoilers/712169/107 "2015-02-11T02:39:57Z")
It’s funny that infection from bites kills fairly rapidly, but if you get shot or stabbed, you can just throw a dirty sock on the wound and you’ll be fine. ---
**Author:** ![theR](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/977dab/32.png) [@theR](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/theR)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2015, 4:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-09-what-happened-and-whats-going-on-open-spoilers/712169/108 "2015-02-11T04:10:11Z")
> [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](#): > > It’s funny that infection from bites kills fairly rapidly, but if you get shot or stabbed, you can just throw a dirty sock on the wound and you’ll be fine. I think the way we’re supposed to suspend disbelief here is by saying that the walkers are rotting corpses and thus full of all kinds of nasty stuff that can kill you if it gets in your bloodstream. ---
**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2015, 12:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-09-what-happened-and-whats-going-on-open-spoilers/712169/109 "2015-02-11T12:08:25Z")
> [@levdrakon](#): > > Rick can lose the beard any time now. I find it slightly odd that Glen has yet to grow anything more than Five o’Clock shadow, and even that’s only a vague hint (so much so, it’s even become a [meme](http://i.imgur.com/rqM819x.png)). ---
**Author:** ![Quimby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/22d042/32.png) [@Quimby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quimby)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2015, 12:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-09-what-happened-and-whats-going-on-open-spoilers/712169/110 "2015-02-11T12:13:30Z")
Walker bites are not a run of the mill infection. ---
**Author:** ![Push\_You\_Down](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/push_you_down/32/9095_2.png) [@Push\_You\_Down](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Push_You_Down)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2015, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-09-what-happened-and-whats-going-on-open-spoilers/712169/111 "2015-02-11T17:43:58Z")
> [@Superdude](#): > > I find it slightly odd that Glen has yet to grow anything more than Five o’Clock shadow, and even that’s only a vague hint (so much so, it’s even become a [meme](http://i.imgur.com/rqM819x.png)). Whispy, disappointing facial hair is a thing a lot of men have to deal with. ---
**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2015, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-09-what-happened-and-whats-going-on-open-spoilers/712169/112 "2015-02-11T17:50:34Z")
> [@Superdude](#): > > I find it slightly odd that Glen has yet to grow anything more than Five o’Clock shadow, and even that’s only a vague hint (so much so, it’s even become a [meme](http://i.imgur.com/rqM819x.png)). The priest has a shaved head, and Abe obviously trimms regularly. Everyone grooms, except when the director doesn’t want them to. Daryl used to have shorter head & facial hair, and was easier to look at. I’m not necessarily anti-beard, but jeez. Manscape a little. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2015, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-09-what-happened-and-whats-going-on-open-spoilers/712169/113 "2015-02-11T17:54:35Z")
I read an [interview](http://www.buzzfeed.com/erinlarosa/walking-dead-mysteries-debunked-by-the-cast#.ayGDo0xKZ9) with the actor playing Glen, and he said: > [@actor playing Glen](#): > > They won’t let me [grow a beard]! They won’t let me do it. I come in with whatever I can grow, and they say no, because it probably does look disgusting. It gets stringy, and I don’t think anybody wants that. ---
**Author:** ![Disgruntled\_Penguin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a8b319/32.png) [@Disgruntled\_Penguin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Disgruntled_Penguin)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2015, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-09-what-happened-and-whats-going-on-open-spoilers/712169/114 "2015-02-11T19:35:40Z")
> [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](#): > > It’s funny that infection from bites kills fairly rapidly, but if you get shot or stabbed, you can just throw a dirty sock on the wound and you’ll be fine. Shane must have been all out of dirty socks. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2015, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-09-what-happened-and-whats-going-on-open-spoilers/712169/115 "2015-02-11T19:43:21Z")
This was one lame-ass episode. I hate it when they try to talk all deep and profound-like; it just comes off as stupid and boring. I also hate it when people who have survived the zombie apocalypse for three years forget Survival Rule Number Freaking One - Clear the house before you start staring at pictures on the wall for half an hour. “Oh my God, there’s two boys here who look the same! I’ve never seen anything this fascinating before…” CHOMP! Gah. Weak episode. So freaking weak. At least they’ve figured out that staying in contact with other members of their group is a good idea; I’m not sure why they can’t find a vehicle big enough for, what, eight people? Together is always better than separate. On a completely different note, regarding Rick as a kindazombie, he did totally bite that guy in the neck a few episodes back! ---
**Author:** ![Disgruntled\_Penguin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a8b319/32.png) [@Disgruntled\_Penguin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Disgruntled_Penguin)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2015, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-09-what-happened-and-whats-going-on-open-spoilers/712169/116 "2015-02-11T19:56:13Z")
> [@Cat\_Whisperer](#): > > This was one lame-ass episode. I hate it when they try to talk all deep and profound-like; it just comes off as stupid and boring. I also hate it when people who have survived the zombie apocalypse for three years forget Survival Rule Number Freaking One - Clear the house before you start staring at pictures on the wall for half an hour. “Oh my God, there’s two boys here who look the same! I’ve never seen anything this fascinating before…” CHOMP! Gah. > > Weak episode. So freaking weak. At least they’ve figured out that staying in contact with other members of their group is a good idea; I’m not sure why they can’t find a vehicle big enough for, what, eight people? Together is always better than separate. > > On a completely different note, regarding Rick as a kindazombie, he did totally bite that guy in the neck a few episodes back! Two vehicles makes more sense. That way they won’t have to spend another season on a farm when one breaks down. They could just pile into vehicle 2 and keep rolling. ---
**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2015, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-09-what-happened-and-whats-going-on-open-spoilers/712169/117 "2015-02-11T20:19:07Z")
> [@Cat\_Whisperer](#): > > This was one lame-ass episode. I hate it when they try to talk all deep and profound-like; it just comes off as stupid and boring. I also hate it when people who have survived the zombie apocalypse for three years forget Survival Rule Number Freaking One - Clear the house before you start staring at pictures on the wall for half an hour. “Oh my God, there’s two boys here who look the same! I’ve never seen anything this fascinating before…” CHOMP! Gah. > > Weak episode. So freaking weak. At least they’ve figured out that staying in contact with other members of their group is a good idea; I’m not sure why they can’t find a vehicle big enough for, what, eight people? Together is always better than separate. Fifteen people, counting Judith (who obviously makes little difference in terms of space). Splitting into two cars seemed reasonable to me, not only because they short bus is gone but also in terms of risk management. You’d want to do something to minimize the danger to the baby. So two cars; split your four best fighters (Rick, Michonne, Daryl, Abraham) evenly between cars; put your best potential backup leader (Carol) in a separate car from the current leader); et cetera. It was well thought. And while I myself commented to lil sis that Tyreese’s death was directly attributable to lack of scavenging discipline, I can buy it. It made me think of Rick’s advice to Carl when they first found the church, when he said they Carl wasn’t safe and should never let his guard down. While that’s entirely right, it’s also impossible to keep up at all times. No one has that much mental stamina. It’s like saying, “The best way to keep out of zombie jaws is to sprint everywhere.” Everybody will eventually make a mistake. In this universe, mistakes are likely to be lethal. And of course you can do everything right and still lose, as Picard once said to Data. ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2015, 1:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-09-what-happened-and-whats-going-on-open-spoilers/712169/118 "2015-02-12T01:21:22Z")
Okay, I’ll give you the two cars and splitting people up the way they did. I can’t give you not simply shutting the door behind you as a matter of course when you go into a new area. In my modern life, I remember to lock the door behind myself every time I go out and every time I come in again - these guys need to develop the habits that will keep them alive. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-09-what-happened-and-whats-going-on-open-spoilers/712169.md?page=5)