# The Walking Dead: 5.13 "Forget" (open spoilers) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [March 9, 2015, 12:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-13-forget-open-spoilers/714563 "2015-03-09T00:18:46Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2015, 1:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-13-forget-open-spoilers/714563/41 "2015-03-09T13:32:37Z")
> [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](#): > > Go to tho zoo. Sneak into the big cat enclosure. Walk around at feeding time. i’d still be more upset that the big cat was eaten by zombies. buttons was a beautiful horsie, so sad. i’m wondering when the unfair wolves will show up. they seem to use the zombies as weapons. icky, yet interesting. ---
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2015, 1:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-13-forget-open-spoilers/714563/42 "2015-03-09T13:39:26Z")
> [@Cat\_Whisperer](#): > > As an aside, Alexandra Breckenridge (plays Jessie - was on “The Talking Dead” tonight) has the worst voice in the history of the world. I cannot stand listening to her nasal vocal fry. My brain has trouble processing that she has a voice at all. Just too damn hot. > [@doorhinge](#): > > I’m going to suggest that Daryl is NOT the best person to recruit potential new members to Alexandria. > > I can certainly see why Aaron would want a Daryl as a backup when he’s out recruiting, but Daryl would scare the crap out of any potential recruits. I think I disagree. It’s a fair assumption that at this point – 2 years in – any new recruits will be in a similar state as Rick’s group. I’m thinking Rick’s group would have been able to relate to a Daryl type way better than they would the polite, joke-cracking, clean, freshly groomed Aaron. ---
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2015, 1:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-13-forget-open-spoilers/714563/43 "2015-03-09T13:41:43Z")
> [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](#): > > Yep. I was wrong. As was I about the question of zombies eating non-human animals. I maintain that since zombies eat animals, it’s highly unlikely any animals would still be around. 300 million predators just appear out of thin air, your odds of survival go in the toilet. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2015, 2:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-13-forget-open-spoilers/714563/44 "2015-03-09T14:05:19Z")
> [@EllisDee](#): > > I maintain that since zombies eat animals, it’s highly unlikely any animals would still be around. 300 million predators just appear out of thin air, your odds of survival go in the toilet. They aren’t very quick or adept. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2015, 2:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-13-forget-open-spoilers/714563/45 "2015-03-09T14:14:48Z")
> [@Spoke](#): > > Speaking of wasted ammo, where does Daryl get his endless supply of crossbow bolts? Magic? Bolts are simple to make. A wooden dowel, a metal tube, a whittled stick, with a metal or stone point on one end, and feathers, plastic, or leather vanes on the other. Plus, Daryl has the option of reusing his projectiles. ---
**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2015, 2:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-13-forget-open-spoilers/714563/46 "2015-03-09T14:34:25Z")
> [@EllisDee](#): > > As was I about the question of zombies eating non-human animals. > > I maintain that since zombies eat animals, it’s highly unlikely any animals would still be around. 300 million predators just appear out of thin air, your odds of survival go in the toilet. While walkers will eat any live animals that they can catch, walkers are slow, noisy, and do not have access to weapons, or reason, or logic. Buttons was trapped in a high fence enclosure. Strike one. Aaron and Daryl were blocking the only exit. Strike two. Buttons was trained not to kick the living crap out of the actors playing the walkers, or paw them, or bite them. Strike three. Domesticated animals might not have survived this long. Dairy cows aren’t going to milk themselves and will die from not being milked. Horses, bison, wolves, badgers, mink, deer, owls, eagles, robins, etc., that are allowed to roam free will survive long after every human has turned zombie. ---
**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2015, 2:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-13-forget-open-spoilers/714563/47 "2015-03-09T14:35:50Z")
> [@MoonMoon](#): > > He made a sort of abusive/controlling husband remark to Jessie as he walked off with Rick’s empty glass, but I can’t remember what it was. Pair that with his vaguely threatening greeting to Rick from the porch and episode or two ago, and it seems like they’re trying to set something up there. Or they’re just flinging red herrings around like cracked out fishmongers, which I wouldn’t put past them. > > Did anyone else get a creepy vibe from the party? Again, it’s probably just the writers, but I felt like everyone was way too interested in Rick’s drink. I was half-sure he was going to end up roofied before the night was through. Husband was being friendly and said he was going to get drinks for them, Jessie said she could do it and he said “I’m on it” in the tone of voice that sounded really sick of the nagging and controlling. Or something. Leaving her with Rick almost seemed like Jessie is supposed to seduce Rick or something. Can’t figure that one out. ---
**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2015, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-13-forget-open-spoilers/714563/48 "2015-03-09T14:47:36Z")
> [@EllisDee](#): > > I think I disagree. It’s a fair assumption that at this point – 2 years in – any new recruits will be in a similar state as Rick’s group. I’m thinking Rick’s group would have been able to relate to a Daryl type way better than they would the polite, joke-cracking, clean, freshly groomed Aaron. Good point. The obvious differences in attitude and appearance of a Daryl/Aaron team would allow them to chose the team member who would most likely relate to any potential recruit(s) during initial contact. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2015, 2:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-13-forget-open-spoilers/714563/49 "2015-03-09T14:48:54Z")
> [@MacTech](#): > > Seems like Sasha and Carol were wasting a bit of ammo this episode, not a logical use of a limited resource… Didn’t Carol say something to the effect that she didn’t want to return with having fried only 1 bullet lest the Homies think she is a crack shot? ---
**Author:** ![Push\_You\_Down](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/push_you_down/32/9095_2.png) [@Push\_You\_Down](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Push_You_Down)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2015, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-13-forget-open-spoilers/714563/50 "2015-03-09T15:00:14Z")
I’m surprised that no one has mentioned the most important part of the Carol and kid scene. Carol stealing the chocolate. THAT’S going to be the thing that unravels their creepy take-over plan. The quartermaster girl will note the extra ration of chocolate missing and report it–there will be an Alexandrian investigation. Rick as constable will try to cover it up. It will be mentioned in front of the kid who will tell his parents and the dad, jealous of what’s going on with Rick and his wife, will go to the Congresswoman. She’ll have to do something about Carol’s thievery. ---
**Author:** ![Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eyebrows_0f_doom/32/3119_2.png) [@Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eyebrows_0f_Doom)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2015, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-13-forget-open-spoilers/714563/51 "2015-03-09T15:04:58Z")
> [@Push\_You\_Down](#): > > I’m surprised that no one has mentioned the most important part of the Carol and kid scene. > > Carol stealing the chocolate. THAT’S going to be the thing that unravels their creepy take-over plan. > > The quartermaster girl will note the extra ration of chocolate missing and report it–there will be an Alexandrian investigation. Rick as constable will try to cover it up. It will be mentioned in front of the kid who will tell his parents and the dad, jealous of what’s going on with Rick and his wife, will go to the Congresswoman. She’ll have to do something about Carol’s thievery. Yup. There was a chalkboard on the wall that listed how many of each food item was in the freezer (8 bars of chocolate.) They’ll notice that is missing way before the guns. ---
**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2015, 3:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-13-forget-open-spoilers/714563/52 "2015-03-09T15:16:04Z")
Carol screwed the pooch on that one. First, the kid shouldn’t have been able to follow her and crawl through the window without her knowing. Big, tough survivalist, right? Then stealing more chocolate, then threatening the kid and expecting he’s never, ever going to tell. Maybe she stole the chocolate to cover for the missing guns if she’s caught. Still, it wasn’t a good plan. ---
**Author:** ![LurkerInNJ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ed655f/32.png) [@LurkerInNJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LurkerInNJ)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2015, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-13-forget-open-spoilers/714563/53 "2015-03-09T15:33:39Z")
> [@Push\_You\_Down](#): > > Carol stealing the chocolate. THAT’S going to be the thing that unravels their creepy take-over plan. > > The quartermaster girl will note the extra ration of chocolate missing and report it–there will be an Alexandrian investigation. It was agreed at the party in front of many people that Carol could and would make another batch of cookies. It’s not a stretch for her to say she thought it was ok to take the chocolate for that batch of cookies. ---
**Author:** ![LurkerInNJ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ed655f/32.png) [@LurkerInNJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LurkerInNJ)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2015, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-13-forget-open-spoilers/714563/54 "2015-03-09T15:36:55Z")
> [@Cat\_Whisperer](#): > > Ooh, maybe the W on the zombie’s forehead was actually an M for Morgan! 😃 That’s what I am thinking too sometimes. It’s either the **W** olves or **M** organ, and I’m not sure which one. ---
**Author:** ![gytalf2000](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ac91a4/32.png) [@gytalf2000](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gytalf2000)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2015, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-13-forget-open-spoilers/714563/55 "2015-03-09T15:37:11Z")
> [@EllisDee](#): > > As was I about the question of zombies eating non-human animals. > > I maintain that since zombies eat animals, it’s highly unlikely any animals would still be around. 300 million predators just appear out of thin air, your odds of survival go in the toilet. I don’t think birds or squirrels would have too hard of a time evading the clumsy hordes. a lot of other species would be in for some trouble, though… ---
**Author:** ![MoonMoon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/moonmoon/32/2959_2.png) [@MoonMoon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MoonMoon)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2015, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-13-forget-open-spoilers/714563/56 "2015-03-09T15:39:00Z")
> [@LurkerInNJ](#): > > It was agreed at the party in front of many people that Carol could and would make another batch of cookies. It’s not a stretch for her to say she thought it was ok to take the chocolate for that batch of cookies. But probably not okay for her to sneak in through a window to get it. :dubious: Count me in the group that immediately said, “Well, now they know who was in there, dumbass.” ---
**Author:** ![MoonMoon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/moonmoon/32/2959_2.png) [@MoonMoon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MoonMoon)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2015, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-13-forget-open-spoilers/714563/57 "2015-03-09T15:41:03Z")
> [@LurkerInNJ](#): > > That’s what I am thinking too sometimes. > > It’s either the **W** olves or **M** organ, and I’m not sure which one. I have a hard time believing that Morgan would a) mark zombies with an M on the forehead and let them go or b) mark humans with an M and then kill them and let them turn. ---
**Author:** ![solost](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/solost/32/11776_2.png) [@solost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/solost)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2015, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-13-forget-open-spoilers/714563/58 "2015-03-09T15:47:20Z")
> [@doorhinge](#): > > Bolts are simple to make. A wooden dowel, a metal tube, a whittled stick, with a metal or stone point on one end, and feathers, plastic, or leather vanes on the other. > > Plus, Daryl has the option of reusing his projectiles. When Daryl shoots a possum or whatever for dinner, I’ve wondered more than once if he’s using a bolt he pulled out of a zombie head before :dubious: ---
**Author:** ![Bone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bone/32/407_2.png) [@Bone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bone)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2015, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-13-forget-open-spoilers/714563/59 "2015-03-09T15:57:55Z")
The ending scene where Rick somehow channels Shane coveting the married woman - did you get the sense that he second guessed himself and went to the wall to hear the zombies as a way to comfort himself? ---
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2015, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-13-forget-open-spoilers/714563/60 "2015-03-09T16:14:02Z")
Regarding Morgan, he’s 600 miles away in Atlanta. Pretty much the only way we can ever see Morgan again is with deus ex machina. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-13-forget-open-spoilers/714563.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-13-forget-open-spoilers/714563.md?page=4)