# The Walking Dead: 5.13 "Forget" (open spoilers) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [March 9, 2015, 12:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-13-forget-open-spoilers/714563 "2015-03-09T00:18:46Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![MacTech](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c0e974/32.png) [@MacTech](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MacTech)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2015, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-13-forget-open-spoilers/714563/61 "2015-03-09T16:18:50Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > Didn’t Carol say something to the effect that she didn’t want to return with having fried only 1 bullet lest the Homies think she is a crack shot? So fire the one round necessary to put down the walker with a headshot, then drop the mag, remove the chambered round, strip off a few extras from the mag and pocket them, same end result, no wasted ammo, and since they don’t pat down returning crews, they wouldn’t notice the hidden ammo, plus you can slowly build a personal stash hidden in the home There’s no way to tell how many rounds have been fired through a semiauto by just looking at it, and since they don’t police their brass… At least the terminus group kept a round count and retrieved their brass… ---
**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2015, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-13-forget-open-spoilers/714563/62 "2015-03-09T16:22:27Z")
> [@EllisDee](#): > > Regarding Morgan, he’s 600 miles away in Atlanta. Pretty much the only way we can ever see Morgan again is with deus ex machina. He could find a car. I think he found a map at the church or someplace with a route to DC marked on it. ---
**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2015, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-13-forget-open-spoilers/714563/63 "2015-03-09T16:32:55Z")
> [@MacTech](#): > > So fire the one round necessary to put down the walker with a headshot, then drop the mag, remove the chambered round, strip off a few extras from the mag and pocket them, same end result, no wasted ammo, and since they don’t pat down returning crews, they wouldn’t notice the hidden ammo, plus you can slowly build a personal stash hidden in the home > > There’s no way to tell how many rounds have been fired through a semiauto by just looking at it, and since they don’t police their brass… > > At least the terminus group kept a round count and retrieved their brass… So Carol made a mistake. People do that. She seemed to make the decision to shoot that walker in the spot – certainly she hadn’t discussed it with Daryl and Rick first – so it seems reasonable to me that she went overboard in the moment and might later have regretted it. All you people who insist on realism (as if it were the only virtue fiction can have) seem to me, all too often, to also want an UNREALISTIC degree of cleverness and preparedness in the characters. Even the smartest of us make mistakes, some big and some small. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2015, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-13-forget-open-spoilers/714563/64 "2015-03-09T17:13:42Z")
> [@EllisDee](#): > > Regarding Morgan, he’s 600 miles away in Atlanta. Pretty much the only way we can ever see Morgan again is with deus ex machina. I last recall seeing him at the Church. ---
**Author:** ![Edward\_The\_Head](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ce73a5/32.png) [@Edward\_The\_Head](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Edward_The_Head)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2015, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-13-forget-open-spoilers/714563/65 "2015-03-09T17:16:29Z")
> [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](#): > > So Carol made a mistake. People do that. She seemed to make the decision to shoot that walker in the spot – certainly she hadn’t discussed it with Daryl and Rick first – so it seems reasonable to me that she went overboard in the moment and might later have regretted it. I got out of it that Carol wanted to make it look like she couldn’t shoot, hence the 5-6 holes in the walker. Though I doubt anyone would come look at it. Carol probably could have gotten away with the guns AND chocolate by telling the kid she was looking for more chocolate to make the cookies and had never seen so many guns in one place. Of course then we wouldn’t have gotten creepy/scary Carol, who might be the scariest thing on the show right now. And bringing up the struts on the outside of the wall means they are supposed to be built that way. So now we can call them stupid. ---
**Author:** ![Latimera](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/latimera/32/497_2.png) [@Latimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Latimera)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2015, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-13-forget-open-spoilers/714563/66 "2015-03-09T17:27:05Z")
> [@Edward\_The\_Head](#): > > And bringing up the struts on the outside of the wall means they are supposed to be built that way. So now we can call them stupid. Or that the company was required to put the struts outside the wall and the writers have no choice but to work around it. ---
**Author:** ![Push\_You\_Down](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/push_you_down/32/9095_2.png) [@Push\_You\_Down](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Push_You_Down)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2015, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-13-forget-open-spoilers/714563/67 "2015-03-09T17:32:24Z")
> [@carnivorousplant](#): > > I last recall seeing him at the Church. The church is near Atlanta. ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_of\_Words](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f6c823/32.png) [@Jack\_of\_Words](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_of_Words)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2015, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-13-forget-open-spoilers/714563/68 "2015-03-09T17:57:31Z")
> [@Edward\_The\_Head](#): > > And bringing up the struts on the outside of the wall means they are supposed to be built that way. So now we can call them stupid. > [@Latimera](#): > > Or that the company was required to put the struts outside the wall and the writers have no choice but to work around it. Or, more likely, given that they could have worked elsewhere or thrown up a set somewhere, the stupid struts and the guy who collects motorbike parts but never builds one and the invisible housewives and the politician and the people who party with small talk and scotch rather than a bonfire and a bucket of beers are all part of the writers’ intention - a stark contrast to our band of survivors. The notion of putting the struts on the outside so the inside stays pretty would perhaps hold sway with those who had enough basic knowledge to build one but insufficient understanding to implement it well. I’ve certainly made similar mistakes occasionally… ---
**Author:** ![duality72](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/duality72/32/3910_2.png) [@duality72](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/duality72)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2015, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-13-forget-open-spoilers/714563/69 "2015-03-09T17:59:18Z")
> [@MoonMoon](#): > > I have a hard time believing that Morgan would a) mark zombies with an M on the forehead and let them go or b) mark humans with an M and then kill them and let them turn. This gives me an interesting idea. What if the W-marked walkers aren’t from an outside group, but what remains of people banished from Alexandria? People in the community get marked with an A. Screw up, and you get a death sentence, marked with a W, and you’re left outside to turn. W stands for Wolf? Or Warning to others? ---
**Author:** ![LurkerInNJ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ed655f/32.png) [@LurkerInNJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LurkerInNJ)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2015, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-13-forget-open-spoilers/714563/70 "2015-03-09T18:03:49Z")
> [@MoonMoon](#): > > I have a hard time believing that Morgan would a) mark zombies with an M on the forehead and let them go or b) mark humans with an M and then kill them and let them turn. That was a very fresh mark on a not-very-fresh zombie. ---
**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2015, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-13-forget-open-spoilers/714563/71 "2015-03-09T18:04:39Z")
> [@Edward\_The\_Head](#): > > I got out of it that Carol wanted to make it look like she couldn’t shoot, hence the 5-6 holes in the walker. Though I doubt anyone would come look at it. > > Carol probably could have gotten away with the guns AND chocolate by telling the kid she was looking for more chocolate to make the cookies and had never seen so many guns in one place. Of course then we wouldn’t have gotten creepy/scary Carol, who might be the scariest thing on the show right now. > > And bringing up the struts on the outside of the wall means they are supposed to be built that way. So now we can call them stupid. I conceded in my first post in this thread that my prediction about the struts was wrong. And it was Rick who called them … unwise. ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2015, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-13-forget-open-spoilers/714563/72 "2015-03-09T18:06:29Z")
I don’t think grabbing the chocolate was a mistake, it was her cover for being there. ---
**Author:** ![Edward\_The\_Head](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ce73a5/32.png) [@Edward\_The\_Head](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Edward_The_Head)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2015, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-13-forget-open-spoilers/714563/73 "2015-03-09T18:10:08Z")
> [@Latimera](#): > > Or that the company was required to put the struts outside the wall and the writers have no choice but to work around it. I get that, I think I was the one that brought it up last time. I meant that the writers could have just ignored it, but they didn’t. I never would have known they were on the outside had I not read it here, I don’t pay that much attention to such things. ---
**Author:** ![LurkerInNJ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ed655f/32.png) [@LurkerInNJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LurkerInNJ)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2015, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-13-forget-open-spoilers/714563/74 "2015-03-09T18:10:14Z")
Someone on another board pointed out that Rick was walking down Morgan St in one shot, lol. ---
**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2015, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-13-forget-open-spoilers/714563/75 "2015-03-09T18:11:52Z")
Maybe a group of marauders marks their victims with a W and lets them go as zombies. You’d think Rick would bring it up and see if anyone else has run across something similar. There aren’t supposed to be many zombies around, but right on cue, as many zombies as it takes to kill a horse show up. The walls around Alexandria should have 1,000 zombies pressed up against the walls at all times. ---
**Author:** ![MacTech](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c0e974/32.png) [@MacTech](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MacTech)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2015, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-13-forget-open-spoilers/714563/76 "2015-03-09T18:19:44Z")
When the walkers swarm Buttons the Horse, pay attention to the walker on the horse’s head, he’s clearly gently guiding the head to the ground so the horse doesn’t get hurt, it took me out of the moment Since my mother and sister run a boarding stable, little details like that stand out to me that someone not as familiar with horses would miss Obviously they didn’t want to injure the horse on set, but it was a little too obvious head-wrangling… ---
**Author:** ![Bone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bone/32/407_2.png) [@Bone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bone)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2015, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-13-forget-open-spoilers/714563/77 "2015-03-09T18:27:48Z")
Care for a live animal gets an easy pass for me. ---
**Author:** ![Spoke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a88e57/32.png) [@Spoke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoke)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2015, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-13-forget-open-spoilers/714563/78 "2015-03-09T19:34:11Z")
The crossbow has always struck me as an odd weapon choice. Cumbersome to carry and slow to reload (which makes it next to useless in a herd attack). There are plenty of guns around. The crossbow seems more of a stylistic choice than a practical one. Now eventually, when all the ammo runs out, yeah, it would be good to have. But for now? Just weird. ---
**Author:** ![Quimby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/22d042/32.png) [@Quimby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quimby)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2015, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-13-forget-open-spoilers/714563/79 "2015-03-09T19:34:15Z")
What I wrote about the horse was more a comment on how thinly drawn the characters are but also I feel bad for animal victims. The extra shots they took were cover because the excuse they gave for going outside was shooting practice so they needed to use a realistic amount of ammo. ---
**Author:** ![theR](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/977dab/32.png) [@theR](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/theR)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2015, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-13-forget-open-spoilers/714563/80 "2015-03-09T19:47:12Z")
> [@Spoke](#): > > The crossbow has always struck me as an odd weapon choice. Cumbersome to carry and slow to reload (which makes it next to useless in a herd attack). There are plenty of guns around. The crossbow seems more of a stylistic choice than a practical one. > > Now eventually, when all the ammo runs out, yeah, it would be good to have. But for now? Just weird. It’s not as load as firearms, either. Remember, up until recently they didn’t have suppressors. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-13-forget-open-spoilers/714563.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-13-forget-open-spoilers/714563.md?page=5)