# The Walking Dead: 5.13 "Forget" (open spoilers) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [March 9, 2015, 12:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-13-forget-open-spoilers/714563 "2015-03-09T00:18:46Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 9
**Author:** ![cmyk](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmyk/32/3353_2.png) [@cmyk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmyk)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2015, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-13-forget-open-spoilers/714563/161 "2015-03-11T21:50:54Z")
> [@levdrakon](#): > > The whole time they’ve been there, Deanne has exiled three men. I don’t think her leadership style is “you’re arrested!” > > She’s a poker champ, after all. If if comes down to “you’re arrested/exiled” she won’t ask nicely. > > Rick exiled Carol once already. Then she saved Judith & basically the whole group, so Rick would really struggle with exiling Carol again. He probably wouldn’t. Drama. Then little Bobby gets NO cookies! ---
**Author:** ![Bone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bone/32/407_2.png) [@Bone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bone)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2015, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-13-forget-open-spoilers/714563/162 "2015-03-11T22:13:37Z")
> [@levdrakon](#): > > The whole time they’ve been there, Deanne has exiled three men. I don’t think her leadership style is “you’re arrested!” > > She’s a poker champ, after all. If if comes down to “you’re arrested/exiled” she won’t ask nicely. > > Rick exiled Carol once already. Then she saved Judith & basically the whole group, so Rick would really struggle with exiling Carol again. He probably wouldn’t. Drama. I’m just imagining because it’s fun. First off - we don’t know she’s only exiled three people - that could have been a lie. If it does go down along the lines that I described, would we really fault Team Grimes for taking over Alexandria? I’d like to think of plausible scenarios that they could take over and not be considered villains. Maybe there’s a hole in the fence and some of the key leaders get taken out, Rick and team fill the void? ---
**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2015, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-13-forget-open-spoilers/714563/163 "2015-03-12T00:39:31Z")
> [@carnivorousplant](#): > > Plop a couple of raisins in Captain Janeway’s beloved coffee when she isn’t looking, and ask her if the ship has a problem with rats. You wanna get airlocked? ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2015, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-13-forget-open-spoilers/714563/164 "2015-03-12T00:39:41Z")
> [@Bone](#): > > It can’t be an outright takeover because as you say the rest of the group would not go along and we can’t have our main folks become true villains. I could see a takeover playing out if the current residents of Alexandria do something to provoke the group forcing them to respond. Perhaps they react disproportionately to a violation of rules, they act dangerously stupid, one of Team Grimes is caught doing something (like stealing chocolate) and they need to rally to the defense. In those cases, I could see the Rictatorship playing out pretty quickly. > > Janeway: “Carol - you’re under arrest for stealing chocolate. Rick, arrest her.” > Rick: No. > Janeway: [some other lackey] You arrest her. > Rick: I’m not going to let you arrest her today. This is one scenario that I can see playing out - Our Gang does something that they don’t think is very bad, but it’s a Mortal Sin in the new community. The chocolate stealing is a good example - the rationing has to be done for the good of the community, and no one is allowed to just grab the good stuff for themselves. You know, we’ve all pretty much talked ourselves into thinking of Alexandria as a Good Place - for them to turn into a Bad Place really would be a huge twist at this point. ---
**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2015, 12:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-13-forget-open-spoilers/714563/165 "2015-03-12T00:52:09Z")
> [@Cat\_Whisperer](#): > > You know, we’ve all pretty much talked ourselves into thinking of Alexandria as a Good Place - for them to turn into a Bad Place really would be a huge twist at this point. They aren’t evil, but they’ve survived two years. Maybe some luck, maybe a different leadership style our marauder-leaning friends aren’t used to. Rick’s way, isn’t the only way. Rick is thinking, “my way or the highway, it’s for family.” His isn’t the only family out there. Haircut girl is mine because. Family. Rick is always on the verge of going too far. ---
**Author:** ![cmyk](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmyk/32/3353_2.png) [@cmyk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmyk)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2015, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-13-forget-open-spoilers/714563/166 "2015-03-12T00:57:10Z")
If only Tuvok were here. He’d set this shit straight. ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2015, 1:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-13-forget-open-spoilers/714563/167 "2015-03-12T01:06:08Z")
> [@levdrakon](#): > > \ > Rick is always on the verge of going too far. Yeah, he really is. He’s not all that sane at this point. ---
**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2015, 1:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-13-forget-open-spoilers/714563/168 "2015-03-12T01:11:00Z")
We aren’t seeing Gabriel. I’d like to see how he’s adjusting. ---
**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2015, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-13-forget-open-spoilers/714563/169 "2015-03-12T01:58:35Z")
> [@levdrakon](#): > > You wanna get airlocked? You’re getting Janeway mixed up with Laura Roslin. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2015, 2:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-13-forget-open-spoilers/714563/170 "2015-03-12T02:22:23Z")
> [@cmyk](#): > > If only Tuvok were here. He’d set this shit straight. Yeah, but is he working for the Maquis or Star Fleet? ---
**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2015, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-13-forget-open-spoilers/714563/171 "2015-03-12T02:25:33Z")
Janeway of course. Rick & crew are Maquis. Duh. Aaron is Tuvok. Janeway is Janeway. Rick is just Maquis scum. ---
**Author:** ![grude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47774/32.png) [@grude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/grude)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2015, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-13-forget-open-spoilers/714563/172 "2015-03-12T17:16:10Z")
> [@levdrakon](#): > > I like Janeway for the same reason I liked the original Janeway. Short woman in charge of a post apocalypse remnant of civilization? She’d have to be aggressive and in your face. I loved how Janeway would stomp right up to an alien twice her size and give 'em what for. Smart, strong, good at poker - what more do you want? I wouldn’t be surprised if she’s not at all surprised at everything Rick & crew are up to. > > The Carol thing though, stealing guns that aren’t hers and threatening the kid - that could be a deal-breaker. Is that the same Janeway who whined “give me back my crewman’s lungs”? The same Janeway that almost gave the whole ship to some moocher aliens with a genocide sob story they guilted her with?! LOL One of my big Janeway complaints is what a softie she was, she should have been threatening up close photon torpedo demonstrations FAR more often. ---
**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2015, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-13-forget-open-spoilers/714563/173 "2015-03-12T18:13:55Z")
> [@grude](#): > > Is that the same Janeway who whined “give me back my crewman’s lungs”? > > The same Janeway that almost gave the whole ship to some moocher aliens with a genocide sob story they guilted her with?! > > LOL One of my big Janeway complaints is what a softie she was, she should have been threatening up close photon torpedo demonstrations FAR more often. There’s a long thread going on right now about Voyager. I haven’t read it, but I’m guessing there’s lots of Janeway discussion. I liked Janeway. Maybe it was just refreshing to have a woman captain. Maybe it’s because the other actors were subpar. But anyway, I’m not a hard-core trekker about it and don’t want to hijack this thread with it. To each his own. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2015, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-13-forget-open-spoilers/714563/174 "2015-03-12T20:16:04Z")
> [@levdrakon](#): > > There’s a long thread going on right now about Voyager. I haven’t read it, but I’m guessing there’s lots of Janeway discussion. I liked Janeway. Maybe it was just refreshing to have a woman captain. Maybe it’s because the other actors were subpar. But anyway, I’m not a hard-core trekker about it and don’t want to hijack this thread with it. To each his own. 🙂 Yeah, let’s beam that whole discussion into Fluidic Space! ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2015, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-13-forget-open-spoilers/714563/175 "2015-03-12T21:13:27Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > Yeah, let’s beam that whole discussion into Fluidic Space! I believe that people who do not like Janeway had Issues With Their Mothers. But I digress, and verge on thread shitting. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2015, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-13-forget-open-spoilers/714563/176 "2015-03-12T21:15:48Z")
> [@cmyk](#): > > If only Tuvok were here. He’d set this shit straight. The guy from _Fiddler on the Roof_? ---
**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2015, 9:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-13-forget-open-spoilers/714563/177 "2015-03-12T21:37:23Z")
Dear Trekkies, Carol has a secret she wants to tell you. You can’t even tell your mom. Because if you do, one morning you’d wake up and you won’t be in your bed. You’ll be outside the walls, far, far, away, tied to a tree, and you’ll scream, and scream, because you’ll be so afraid. No one will come to help because no one will hear you. But something will hear you. The monsters will come. The ones out there. And you won’t be able to run away when they come for you. And they will tear you apart and eat you up all while you’re still alive. All while you can still feel it. And then afterward, no one will even know what happened to you. … Or … you can promise not to ever talk about Star Trek in a Walking Dead thread and then nothing will happen. And you’ll get cookies. Lots of cookies. Now, look at the flowers. :eek: hehehehe (just kidding) ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2015, 9:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-13-forget-open-spoilers/714563/178 "2015-03-12T21:39:50Z")
_Trekkers_, door hardware breath. :dubious: And Tevye wasn’t Vulcan. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2015, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-13-forget-open-spoilers/714563/179 "2015-03-12T21:48:50Z")
> [@carnivorousplant](#): > > _Trekkers_, door hardware breath. :dubious: > > And Tevye wasn’t Vulcan. 🙂 I really didn’t want to play the “Gene Roddenberry” card but you’ve forced my hand. \*trekkie  A fan of Star Trek, aka Trekker, Although Gene Roddenberry once mentioned that the only word he acknowledged was Trekkie. Trekkies are commonly known for their unique behavior often memorizing everything there is to know about Star Trek, going too conventions, having every Star Trek episode on VHS or DVD.\* > **[Urban Dictionary: Trekkie](https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Trekkie)** > > A devoted fan of the television series Star Trek or one of its spinoff series or films. Variant: wordTrekker/word Live long and prosper :smack: ---
**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2015, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-13-forget-open-spoilers/714563/180 "2015-03-12T21:50:47Z")
I thought Leonard Nimoy preferred Trekker. Show some respect, the poor man is dead! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-13-forget-open-spoilers/714563.md?page=8) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-13-forget-open-spoilers/714563.md?page=10)