# The Walking Dead; 5.14 "Spend" (open spoilers) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [March 16, 2015, 12:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-14-spend-open-spoilers/715086 "2015-03-16T00:19:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2015, 12:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-14-spend-open-spoilers/715086/1 "2015-03-16T00:19:00Z")
[QUOTE=AMC] While trying to secure a new home, Rick and his group face challenges, and question the utopia they find themselves in. [/QUOTE] Steven Yueh, Josh McDermitt, & Tyler James Williams are on **Talking Dead**. ---
**Author:** ![MacTech](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c0e974/32.png) [@MacTech](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MacTech)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2015, 1:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-14-spend-open-spoilers/715086/2 "2015-03-16T01:21:30Z")
Whoa!.. IWED’s… Improvised Walking Explosive Devices! Self-guided walking bombs, interesting and novel use of existing supplies there… And Janeway’s kid once again proves himself to be the shortsighted moron. ---
**Author:** ![IvoryTowerDenizen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ivorytowerdenizen/32/17937_2.png) [@IvoryTowerDenizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IvoryTowerDenizen)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2015, 1:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-14-spend-open-spoilers/715086/3 "2015-03-16T01:25:22Z")
Carol is the worst den mother ever. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![MacTech](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c0e974/32.png) [@MacTech](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MacTech)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2015, 1:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-14-spend-open-spoilers/715086/4 "2015-03-16T01:28:34Z")
She does tell the best stories though ---
**Author:** ![IvoryTowerDenizen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ivorytowerdenizen/32/17937_2.png) [@IvoryTowerDenizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IvoryTowerDenizen)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2015, 1:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-14-spend-open-spoilers/715086/5 "2015-03-16T01:37:46Z")
Tripe and chitlins for dinner anyone? ---
**Author:** ![sir\_viks](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4af34b/32.png) [@sir\_viks](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sir_viks)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2015, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-14-spend-open-spoilers/715086/6 "2015-03-16T01:41:15Z")
Did anyone catch what Aiden said before he was attacked? ---
**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2015, 1:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-14-spend-open-spoilers/715086/7 "2015-03-16T01:50:27Z")
Well they’re down to one black man again. ---
**Author:** ![MacTech](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c0e974/32.png) [@MacTech](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MacTech)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2015, 1:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-14-spend-open-spoilers/715086/8 "2015-03-16T01:51:54Z")
Stupid frakking formula, goodbye Noah ☹ ---
**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2015, 2:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-14-spend-open-spoilers/715086/9 "2015-03-16T02:02:58Z")
> [@alphaboi867](#): > > Well they’re down to one black man again. No they’re not. Fuckwit Gabriel is less of a MAN than Carl. Or Sam. Or Judith. ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2015, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-14-spend-open-spoilers/715086/10 "2015-03-16T02:03:08Z")
> [@sir\_viks](#): > > Did anyone catch what Aiden said before he was attacked? Something like, “It was us. The people before us, they didn’t panic - it was us.” It sounds to me (thanks to my husband’s explanations) that he meant the town was held by people before this current group, the current group took it from them somehow, and they are a bunch of cowardly assholes who always look after themselves and leave other people for dead and do stupid things that get other people killed. ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2015, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-14-spend-open-spoilers/715086/11 "2015-03-16T02:05:47Z")
> [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](#): > > No they’re not. Fuckwit Gabriel is less of a MAN than Carl. Or Sam. Or Judith. Frakking Fuckwit Gabriel - after Glen is finished killing The Asshole Who Saved Himself Twice and Left Other People To Die (in future just known as The Turncoat Asshole or TTA), his next target is Fuckwit Gabriel (although he might have to armwrestle Rick for the pleasure). ---
**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2015, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-14-spend-open-spoilers/715086/12 "2015-03-16T02:05:53Z")
I’m really hoping the finale has a scene where Father Gabriel get’s stripped of his vestments and crucified, then just left there as zombie. 😉 He’s moved from being utterly fucking useless to into insane traitor. Oh, and it sure sucks that their only doctor is a wife beater; I wonder this would surprise the other residents, or it it’s just an open secret that nobody talks about because he’s their only doctor. ---
**Author:** ![IvoryTowerDenizen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ivorytowerdenizen/32/17937_2.png) [@IvoryTowerDenizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IvoryTowerDenizen)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2015, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-14-spend-open-spoilers/715086/13 "2015-03-16T02:08:51Z")
> [@Cat\_Whisperer](#): > > Something like, “It was us. The people before us, they didn’t panic - it was us.” It sounds to me (thanks to my husband’s explanations) that he meant the town was held by people before this current group, the current group took it from them somehow, and they are a bunch of cowardly assholes who always look after themselves and leave other people for dead and do stupid things that get other people killed. I thought he meant the four they lost before because they “didn’t follow procedure”. That he was saying that they didn’t panic, he and his brother did and that’s why they died. ---
**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2015, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-14-spend-open-spoilers/715086/14 "2015-03-16T02:10:16Z")
> [@alphaboi867](#): > > I’m really hoping the finale has a scene where Father Gabriel get’s stripped of his vestments and crucified, then just left there as zombie. 😉 He’s moved from being utterly fucking useless to into insane traitor. Oh, and it sure sucks that their only doctor is a wife beater; I wonder this would surprise the other residents, or it it’s just an open secret that nobody talks about because he’s their only doctor. No, he can’t be crucified. I don’t care how the Romans intended it; crucifixion is now the mark of a hero or saint’s death. Fuckwit Gabriel needs something more disgraceful. ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2015, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-14-spend-open-spoilers/715086/15 "2015-03-16T02:14:22Z")
> [@IvoryTowerDenizen](#): > > I thought he meant the four they lost before because they “didn’t follow procedure”. That he was saying that they didn’t panic, he and his brother did and that’s why they died. This. He was talking about their previous losses. The other guy too when he said bailing is what they do. ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2015, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-14-spend-open-spoilers/715086/16 "2015-03-16T02:17:23Z")
Nicholas - that’s The Turncoat Asshole’s name. ETA: Everybody Ate Chris - totally stealing that from the twitter guy who said it. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2015, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-14-spend-open-spoilers/715086/17 "2015-03-16T02:19:53Z")
> [@IvoryTowerDenizen](#): > > I thought he meant the four they lost before because they “didn’t follow procedure”. That he was saying that they didn’t panic, he and his brother did and that’s why they died. > [@DigitalC](#): > > This. He was talking about their previous losses. The other guy too when he said bailing is what they do. Ah, okay. So, what Aiden was saying was he and Nicholas survived because they didn’t panic, and they did follow procedure, and the four who died did panic? ---
**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2015, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-14-spend-open-spoilers/715086/18 "2015-03-16T02:24:20Z")
> [@Cat\_Whisperer](#): > > Ah, okay. So, what Aiden was saying was he and Nicholas survived because they didn’t panic, and they did follow procedure, and the four who died did panic? Aidan was confessing that he and Nicholas left the others to die, whether from simple panic or outright Gabriel-level perfidy. ---
**Author:** ![IvoryTowerDenizen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ivorytowerdenizen/32/17937_2.png) [@IvoryTowerDenizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IvoryTowerDenizen)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2015, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-14-spend-open-spoilers/715086/19 "2015-03-16T02:27:35Z")
> [@Cat\_Whisperer](#): > > Ah, okay. So, what Aiden was saying was he and Nicholas survived because they didn’t panic, and they did follow procedure, and the four who died did panic? No, the opposite. The four died because he and Aiden panicked. Nicholas and Aiden lied to explain the four deaths. When Nicholas said that to Aiden he was explaining why he was about to bolt and abandon his brother. Then Aiden admitted to Glenn the same thing, out of respect for Glenn’a obvious integrity and abilities. ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2015, 2:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-14-spend-open-spoilers/715086/20 "2015-03-16T02:32:39Z")
> [@IvoryTowerDenizen](#): > > No, the opposite. The four died because he and Aiden panicked. Nicholas and Aiden lied to explain the four deaths. When Nicholas said that to Aiden he was explaining why he was about to bolt and abandon his brother. Then Aiden admitted to Glenn the same thing, out of respect for Glenn’a obvious integrity and abilities. That makes sense - we’ve seen that Aiden and Nicholas are most definitely complete and utter assholes who aren’t getting what this world is about. ETA: Feral Daryl - I’m getting the best stuff out of “The Talking Dead.” 😃 [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-14-spend-open-spoilers/715086.md?page=2)