# The Walking Dead; 5.14 "Spend" (open spoilers)

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [March 16, 2015, 12:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-14-spend-open-spoilers/715086 "2015-03-16T00:19:00Z")\
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**Author:** ![VunderBob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/839c29/32.png) [@VunderBob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VunderBob)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2015, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-14-spend-open-spoilers/715086/61 "2015-03-16T18:24:21Z")

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> [@doorhinge](#):
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> What the heck did the people of Cleveland ever do to the writers? “Sending a fax to Cleveland”? Now that’s a euphemism that should gin up some hate mail (butt only from Cleveland).

Go look up “Cleveland Steamer” in the Urban Dictionary.

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**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2015, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-14-spend-open-spoilers/715086/62 "2015-03-16T18:51:49Z")

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Those zombies were all over the impaled kid like literally half a second after the coward bailed, and from every direction. They might be trying to paint him as a pussy but that really was the time to GTFO.

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**Author:** ![VunderBob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/839c29/32.png) [@VunderBob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VunderBob)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2015, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-14-spend-open-spoilers/715086/63 "2015-03-16T18:58:46Z")

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> [@DigitalC](#):
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> Those zombies were all over the impaled kid like literally half a second after the coward bailed, and from every direction. They might be trying to paint him as a pussy but that really was the time to GTFO.

The humane thing would have been a head shot for the Vlad the Impaled to spare him the agony of being eaten.

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**Author:** ![ajana](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8797f3/32.png) [@ajana](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ajana)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2015, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-14-spend-open-spoilers/715086/64 "2015-03-16T19:03:58Z")

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interesting movie

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**Author:** ![FlightlessBird](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/cdc98d/32.png) [@FlightlessBird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FlightlessBird)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2015, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-14-spend-open-spoilers/715086/65 "2015-03-16T19:52:28Z")

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If I were these people, I would include a pointy stick (or pole) in my going-outside-the-wall toolbox. That way, when you come across a group of walkers behind a fence or the crack of a door or something (revolving door). Then you can stop and take care of the problem. Quietly. Well, as much of the problem as you can reach. In the revolving door scenario, you kill the closest one to the crack and then you’ve got a little more protection from the ones behind it.  
I know it would take energy and you can’t stop a horde with it, but when you see a walker you can kill easily, quietly and at no lose of ammo…kill it! arrggghh!

I guess that’s what Michone’s sword was.

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**Author:** ![PatriotX](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c4cdca/32.png) [@PatriotX](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PatriotX)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2015, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-14-spend-open-spoilers/715086/66 "2015-03-16T19:53:59Z")

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mother dick

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**Author:** ![gytalf2000](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ac91a4/32.png) [@gytalf2000](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gytalf2000)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2015, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-14-spend-open-spoilers/715086/67 "2015-03-16T20:16:26Z")

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> [@FlightlessBird](#):
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> If I were these people, I would include a pointy stick (or pole) in my going-outside-the-wall toolbox. That way, when you come across a group of walkers behind a fence or the crack of a door or something (revolving door). Then you can stop and take care of the problem. Quietly. Well, as much of the problem as you can reach. In the revolving door scenario, you kill the closest one to the crack and then you’ve got a little more protection from the ones behind it.  
> I know it would take energy and you can’t stop a horde with it, but when you see a walker you can kill easily, quietly and at no lose of ammo…kill it! arrggghh!
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> I guess that’s what Michone’s sword was.

That’s right, every single person should have, in addition to a firearm and a short stabby knife, a good size pointy stick. That seems eminently reasonable to me, which is why, of course, such a practice would never actually be implemented on the show.

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**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2015, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-14-spend-open-spoilers/715086/68 "2015-03-16T20:33:34Z")

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I’m sure they all do actually, they just show a reluctance to off any zombies that are not an immediate threat. I find their “live and let die” attitude a bit silly, reducing the overall concentration of walkers in the area should be a high priority. Hell i would put teams out who’s only job would be to “thin the herds” as much as they could.

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**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2015, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-14-spend-open-spoilers/715086/69 "2015-03-16T20:34:31Z")

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Glen had the right idea wearing hockey equipment & SWAT gear. They should all be dressed like knights at this point.

ETA: or Stormtroopers. Raid the nearest comic-con.

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**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2015, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-14-spend-open-spoilers/715086/70 "2015-03-16T20:35:00Z")

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> [@VunderBob](#):
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> The humane thing would have been a head shot for the Vlad the Impaled to spare him the agony of being eaten.

Yes. And the fact that they didn’t do it leads me to think that we may be seeing Zombie Aiden confronting his mother, in some future episode. Just for the horror of it all. (He may be missing a few internal organs, but he’ll find that helpful in getting off the spikes when he turns and starts a-hungerin’.)

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2015, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-14-spend-open-spoilers/715086/71 "2015-03-16T21:21:06Z")

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> [@gytalf2000](#):
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> That’s right, every single person should have, in addition to a firearm and a short stabby knife, a good size pointy stick. That seems eminently reasonable to me, which is why, of course, such a practice would never actually be implemented on the show.

Didn’t they do something like that occasionally at the prison, walk the fence and take out walkers through the chain-links? Absurd that this isn’t a regular practice. In a minute or less, two or three of the warehouse raiders (with the others standing guard) could have casually spiked all the walkers behind the fence. In addition to removing these walkers as a potential threat in case that fence gives way, it also silences them, making it easier to listen for any _other_ potential threats they might encounter.  
Though that might not matter - the walkers are clearly capable of superhuman speed and ninja stealth when required.

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**Author:** ![StGermain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stgermain/32/2868_2.png) [@StGermain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/StGermain)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2015, 9:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-14-spend-open-spoilers/715086/72 "2015-03-16T21:39:25Z")

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> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#):
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> Though that might not matter - the walkers are clearly capable of superhuman speed and ninja stealth when required.

And yet have skulls with the strength of a cantaloupe.

StG

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**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2015, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-14-spend-open-spoilers/715086/73 "2015-03-16T21:42:21Z")

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> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#):
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> Didn’t they do something like that occasionally at the prison, walk the fence and take out walkers through the chain-links? Absurd that this isn’t a regular practice.

They did when the zombies started pushing the fence in, before that they just left them alone.

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**Author:** ![StGermain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stgermain/32/2868_2.png) [@StGermain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/StGermain)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2015, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-14-spend-open-spoilers/715086/74 "2015-03-16T21:58:51Z")

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**Digital-C** - I disagree. It seemed to me that it was a regular chore to kill the walkers at the fence. Tyreese begged off going on a supply run and chose to do fence duty instead. When his wife got back, Tyreese said he didn’t like killing walkers any better. Their goal was to keep them thinned down so they didn’t become herds.

If I was there, I think I’d have two CD players/alarm clocks/timed noise makers set 1/4 mile apart. I’d have the nearest one set to go off, then 30 minutes later the next one. Once a week, or so, so they could herd up, then be moved down the road by the sound. Toward Woodbury, maybe.

Funny thing is, the next town over from me is Woodbury, TN. I went into Woodbury on Friday to go to the feed store.

ETA - My horses would never have let those walkers get so close. The only human who can catch them is me.

StG

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**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2015, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-14-spend-open-spoilers/715086/75 "2015-03-16T22:00:25Z")

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> [@StGermain](#):
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> **Digital-C** - I disagree. It seemed to me that it was a regular chore to kill the walkers at the fence. Tyreese begged off going on a supply run and chose to do fence duty instead. When his wife got back, Tyreese said he didn’t like killing walkers any better. Their goal was to keep them thinned down so they didn’t become herds.
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> If I was there, I think I’d have two CD players/alarm clocks/timed noise makers set 1/4 mile apart. I’d have the nearest one set to go off, then 30 minutes later the next one. Once a week, or so, so they could herd up, then be moved down the road by the sound. Toward Woodbury, maybe.
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> Funny thing is, the next town over from me is Woodbury, TN. I went into Woodbury on Friday to go to the feed store.
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> StG

Here’s a pointy stick. Go for it. I don’t judge.

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**Author:** ![Push\_You\_Down](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/push_you_down/32/9095_2.png) [@Push\_You\_Down](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Push_You_Down)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2015, 12:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-14-spend-open-spoilers/715086/76 "2015-03-17T00:05:08Z")

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> [@StGermain](#):
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> **Digital-C** - I disagree. It seemed to me that it was a regular chore to kill the walkers at the fence. Tyreese begged off going on a supply run and chose to do fence duty instead. When his wife got back, Tyreese said he didn’t like killing walkers any better. Their goal was to keep them thinned down so they didn’t become herds.
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> If I was there, I think I’d have two CD players/alarm clocks/timed noise makers set 1/4 mile apart. I’d have the nearest one set to go off, then 30 minutes later the next one. Once a week, or so, so they could herd up, then be moved down the road by the sound. Toward Woodbury, maybe.
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> Funny thing is, the next town over from me is Woodbury, TN. I went into Woodbury on Friday to go to the feed store.
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> ETA - My horses would never have let those walkers get so close. The only human who can catch them is me.
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> StG

The Xbox game State of Decay has noisemaker items like that that you can use to draw zombies away - i believe they are fire-crackers, talking doll and kitchen timer.

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**Author:** ![salinqmind](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3ec8ea/32.png) [@salinqmind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/salinqmind)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2015, 12:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-14-spend-open-spoilers/715086/77 "2015-03-17T00:08:21Z")

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Carol’s cookie-loving kid (Sam?) is getting an awful lot of air time, he’s going to figure into something big. Maybe he’ll become an orphan and Carol will adopt him :dubious:.

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**Author:** ![Quimby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/22d042/32.png) [@Quimby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quimby)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2015, 12:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-14-spend-open-spoilers/715086/78 "2015-03-17T00:13:23Z")

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Carol has basically become Lady MacBeth and has decided the only way to solve problems is killing people. You can’t kill someone because he’s an asshole. Especially when he is the only Doctor.

I really really hope they don’t turn Deanna into a looney tunes villain. I like her more than nearly every main character. She is smart, competent, level headed and I have agreed with everything she has said.

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**Author:** ![MacTech](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c0e974/32.png) [@MacTech](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MacTech)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2015, 1:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-14-spend-open-spoilers/715086/79 "2015-03-17T01:13:25Z")

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> [@levdrakon](#):
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> \<snip\>ETA: or Stormtroopers. Raid the nearest comic-con.

But then they wouldn’t be able to hit their targets…

Here’s the plan, put the most useless character (fuckwit Gabriel) in a red shirt and send him out as walker bait.

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**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2015, 2:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-14-spend-open-spoilers/715086/80 "2015-03-17T02:02:29Z")

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> [@StGermain](#):
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> I’d imagine that Janeway is smart enough to recognize that Gabriel is insane and that’ll set up the conflict. Maggie will think she’s heard something that could cause them to be ousted, but in reality, Janeway’s just dismissed his “revelation” out of hand and isn’t planning to do anything…

Well if Deana dismisses Gabriel’s rants then the most prudent & logical thing to do would be to tell Maggie, her _personal assistant_, right away and ask more questions about his history. 😛 _Obviously_ that’s not going to happen.

> [@doorhinge](#):
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> …Deanne, and the other Alexandria leaders, need to (will be?) change their “policy” about dealing with attacks by walkers. “Always fall back” is no longer an option. Even the former construction foreman favors Rick’s groups method…

I’m worried that Deanna may rethink her dismissal of Gabriel after hearing of her son’s death; though I guess that depends what Nicholas tells her (is Nicholas her other son, or is Aiden 😕).

> [@levdrakon](#):
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> Gabriel’s crime was locking the church doors to save himself, and thereby sacrificing the townsfolk. This is perfectly acceptable to an Alexandrian…

Is it? They seem to have lucked out and found the perfect place to survive. They actively seek survivors to increase their ranks, and borderline naïve with how trusting they are. I don’t think they went through a phase were they were turning people away from the gates _en masse_; I doubt they’d even be capable doing something like that in the face of resistance. :dubious:

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