# The Walking Dead; 5.15 "Try" (open spoilers) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [March 23, 2015, 12:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-15-try-open-spoilers/715734 "2015-03-23T00:43:36Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![PatriotX](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c4cdca/32.png) [@PatriotX](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PatriotX)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2015, 11:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-15-try-open-spoilers/715734/81 "2015-03-24T11:53:44Z")
Deeanna Janeway knows about the wolves ---
**Author:** ![Cinnamon\_Imp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/58956e/32.png) [@Cinnamon\_Imp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cinnamon_Imp)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2015, 1:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-15-try-open-spoilers/715734/82 "2015-03-24T13:09:50Z")
> [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](#): > > I’d wager that at some point we get a shot of someone recognizable - Deanna or Jessie - zombified and with a W carved on their forehead. Okay, I wouldn’t wager a ton on that, but it seems like a direction that they might take all of this. Just saw [this FOX promo pic](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v359/lalajia/sdmb/11080847_10152616626680670_2936429691956845622_o_zpsmgcmgday.jpg) on facebook - is it just me or does the zombie woman look familiar, and Daryl almost has a startled expression of recognition? ---
**Author:** ![BubbaDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bubbadog/32/333_2.png) [@BubbaDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BubbaDog)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2015, 1:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-15-try-open-spoilers/715734/83 "2015-03-24T13:40:17Z")
> [@Spoke](#): > > No, that is not bad; this is bad: > > I was thinking that at that age he was bound to have a woody IRL, and I was wondering how awkward that might have been for the actress in the scene. YOU saw two teens intimately together in a small space. HE saw cameras lights and probably at least 6 adults staring intently at him while he’s trying to hit the timing of his lines and facial gestures correct. Throw in the possibility that one or both of his parents were on set and watching the studio monitors in real time and I bet little Carrrrl never made a stand. ---
**Author:** ![VunderBob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/839c29/32.png) [@VunderBob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VunderBob)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2015, 2:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-15-try-open-spoilers/715734/84 "2015-03-24T14:04:50Z")
> [@BubbaDog](#): > > YOU saw two teens intimately together in a small space. > > HE saw cameras lights and probably at least 6 adults staring intently at him while he’s trying to hit the timing of his lines and facial gestures correct. Throw in the possibility that one or both of his parents were on set and watching the studio monitors in real time and I bet little Carrrrl never made a stand. Or he had a cup under all those clothes to reign in The General. ---
**Author:** ![SmellMyWort](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ea5d25/32.png) [@SmellMyWort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SmellMyWort)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2015, 2:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-15-try-open-spoilers/715734/85 "2015-03-24T14:44:53Z")
> [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](#): > > I was disappointed that a drunk, doughy surgeon could kick Rick’s ass. I know that Andrew Lincoln is pretty scrawny, but I was going along with the fiction that he is a rough customer in the show’s universe. But sheesh. (post shortened) It wasn’t as clear this episode but last week when the Dr. stops by Rick’s house to offer up a beer they are side by side and the Dr looked huge compared to Rick. ---
**Author:** ![gytalf2000](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ac91a4/32.png) [@gytalf2000](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gytalf2000)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2015, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-15-try-open-spoilers/715734/86 "2015-03-24T14:57:04Z")
> [@Cat\_Whisperer](#): > > Oh, and Rick looking totally crazy and dangerous (and acting crazy and dangerous) was really stepping on his very good points. Yeah, he was definitely looking nuts and undermining any good point that he was making verbally. It was entertaining to watch, though… ---
**Author:** ![gytalf2000](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ac91a4/32.png) [@gytalf2000](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gytalf2000)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2015, 3:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-15-try-open-spoilers/715734/87 "2015-03-24T15:01:39Z")
> [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](#): > > I was disappointed that a drunk, doughy surgeon could kick Rick’s ass. I know that Andrew Lincoln is pretty scrawny, but I was going along with the fiction that he is a rough customer in the show’s universe. But sheesh The surgeon fellow may be a lot bigger, but hey, Rick is willing to bite a guy’s throat out if he has to. Ya gotta take that into account. ---
**Author:** ![SmellMyWort](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ea5d25/32.png) [@SmellMyWort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SmellMyWort)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2015, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-15-try-open-spoilers/715734/88 "2015-03-24T15:17:29Z")
> [@Critical1](#): > > One thing in the Fight I noticed, Evil dad threw his son (maybe wife, Not sure) off him while fighting, but then rick did the same thing to Coral. Was this some kind of attempt at making them look equally deranged? I’m pretty sure the doc threw off his wife and Rick threw off Carl. Rick is really screwing things up for his group. Alexandria is weak but seems willing to change; just not forced to change. An abusive husband needs to be dealt with but is not an immediate risk to the group as a whole. The only reason Rick is acting so quick to discipline the Dr is because he wants to bang his wife. So instead of working with Deanna to find a solution he creates a confrontation at a time when Deanna is doubting the value of their group and when Tara is being treated by the Dr. Way to think with your dick, Rick. ---
**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2015, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-15-try-open-spoilers/715734/89 "2015-03-24T15:24:58Z")
Yeah, it was more of a brawl over possession of a woman. Not Rick’s best day. ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2015, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-15-try-open-spoilers/715734/90 "2015-03-24T15:51:47Z")
> [@gytalf2000](#): > > The surgeon fellow may be a lot bigger, but hey, Rick is willing to bite a guy’s throat out if he has to. > Ya gotta take that into account. That actually brings up a good point - Rick knows damned well what a fight to the death is all about, and will definitely go there. The doctor was just screwing around. The doctor would have had to knock Rick out cold or kill him before Rick would stop coming at him. The doctor is damned lucky to still be alive. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2015, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-15-try-open-spoilers/715734/91 "2015-03-24T15:56:05Z")
Isn’t Morgan about 500 miles south of them at this point? ---
**Author:** ![Furious\_Marmot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/dfb087/32.png) [@Furious\_Marmot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Furious_Marmot)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2015, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-15-try-open-spoilers/715734/92 "2015-03-24T16:07:06Z")
Interesting that while Rick and the Doc are acting like adolescent boys having an “I seen her first!” punch-up, two women are shown being adults. Michonne delivers the somewhat tardy, but necessary whack on Rick’s head and Sasha is up in the tower keeping the real world at bay. Although, by trying to head off exile of the entire group and/or keeping the horde of undead from overrunning the town, they are indirectly perpetuating a system that allows grown folks to carry on like they are in fucking high school instead of contributing to the long term survival of the group. In a somewhat related vein, the typically overwrought, kind of dumb dialogue style preferred by the writers works well in the Carl/Enid scenes because teenagers do sound like that when they are trying to do whatever the hell they are doing. ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2015, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-15-try-open-spoilers/715734/93 "2015-03-24T16:36:44Z")
> [@levdrakon](#): > > Yeah, it was more of a brawl over possession of a woman. Not Rick’s best day. Yeah, that part of it was not Rick’s best moment. He needed to dig back into his ancient past and remember how to be a cop handling a domestic dispute. ---
**Author:** ![theR](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/977dab/32.png) [@theR](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/theR)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2015, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-15-try-open-spoilers/715734/94 "2015-03-24T18:30:41Z")
> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#): > > Isn’t Morgan about 500 miles south of them at this point? Why do people keep asking that? He found a map to Washington, DC that Abraham left for Rick, with Rick’s name on it. What was the point of that scene if he is not going to catch up with them? At some point, either in the next episode or at the beginning of the next season, we will see him again. It seems like it pretty much has to be the next episode or Morgan’s appearance earlier this season was sort of pointless. ---
**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2015, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-15-try-open-spoilers/715734/95 "2015-03-24T18:38:37Z")
Maybe Daryl, Aaron & Morgan will save Alexandria from the wolves. ---
**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2015, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-15-try-open-spoilers/715734/96 "2015-03-24T20:17:05Z")
> [@jtgain](#): > > So in Alexandria there are only 3 possible ways to deal with domestic battery: 1) death, 2) exile, and 3) do nothing. Does anyone consider calling a town meeting and telling the doctor that everyone knows about it and it WILL stop or else? > > Deanna was a Congresswoman! She hasn’t set up a system to punish non-felony crimes? Maybe have a rudimentary court system, a small jail, or a batters counseling group? Something? Anything but exile being the only punishment. There is a 4th way. Drunk Doc = porch dick. Sober Doc = surgeon. Now that all of Alexandria knows he’s an abusive drunk, No More Alcohol for Pete. ---
**Author:** ![theR](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/977dab/32.png) [@theR](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/theR)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2015, 10:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-15-try-open-spoilers/715734/97 "2015-03-24T22:04:28Z")
> [@doorhinge](#): > > There is a 4th way. Drunk Doc = porch dick. Sober Doc = surgeon. Now that all of Alexandria knows he’s an abusive drunk, No More Alcohol for Pete. I don’t understand how they have such an extensive supply of alcohol in the first place, particularly when they complain about shortages of things like chocolate and other ingredients for cooking. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2015, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-15-try-open-spoilers/715734/98 "2015-03-24T22:16:40Z")
> [@theR](#): > > Why do people keep asking that? To annoy you, obviously. ---
**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2015, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-15-try-open-spoilers/715734/99 "2015-03-24T22:20:52Z")
> [@theR](#): > > I don’t understand how they have such an extensive supply of alcohol in the first place, particularly when they complain about shortages of things like chocolate and other ingredients for cooking. If Alexandria has the resources to grow roses and strawberries, in addition to whatever other foodstuff they grow (potatoes, rice, wheat, beans, etc), they can brew beer and distill alcohol. Chocolate requires cocoa beans. Cacao trees need a tropical environment or greenhouse. And a starter Cacao cutting or seeds. ---
**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2015, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-15-try-open-spoilers/715734/100 "2015-03-24T22:26:06Z")
Growing tobacco, pot and distilling booze would probably be a few of the first things people did, once all the screaming and running away calmed down after the ZA. A greenhouse would be a no-brainer, though you’d have to grow a lot of cocoa beans. You’d also need to produce sugar, although there are probably warehouses full of that. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-15-try-open-spoilers/715734.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-15-try-open-spoilers/715734.md?page=6)