# The Walking Dead; 5.15 "Try" (open spoilers)

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [March 23, 2015, 12:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-15-try-open-spoilers/715734 "2015-03-23T00:43:36Z")\
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**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2015, 10:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-15-try-open-spoilers/715734/101 "2015-03-24T22:43:48Z")

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> [@Furious\_Marmot](#):
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> Interesting that while Rick and the Doc are acting like adolescent boys having an “I seen her first!” punch-up, two women are shown being adults. Michonne delivers the somewhat tardy, but necessary whack on Rick’s head and Sasha is up in the tower keeping the real world at bay.

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The world of the Walking Dead is sliding back towards the middle ages. Emotions are high, and everyone will have to make constant adjustments. Makes for good television.

Jessie gave Rick the go-ahead to deal with Dr. Pete. Jessie said, “Yes”. That was very “adult” of her.

A drunk guy started a fight. A drunk guy that shouldn’t have access to alcohol. Not exactly breaking news.

Rick is the constable. He was doing his job. The personal feelings of the characters aside, Rick ordered Pete to leave. Pete attacked Rick. Rick detained Pete. Blood was spilled.

Michonne did her job as constable. She broke up the fight (and maybe Rick’s skull).

Sasha was last seen pointing her rifle towards the inside of Alexandria. And no one knows how close Sasha is to a complete breakdown.

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2015, 11:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-15-try-open-spoilers/715734/102 "2015-03-24T23:43:01Z")

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> [@doorhinge](#):
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> There is a 4th way. Drunk Doc = porch dick. Sober Doc = surgeon. Now that all of Alexandria knows he’s an abusive drunk, No More Alcohol for Pete.

When you cut your foot off with your lawnmower, his price up front is a bottle of Scotch.

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**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2015, 12:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-15-try-open-spoilers/715734/103 "2015-03-25T00:04:53Z")

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> [@carnivorousplant](#):
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> When you cut your foot off with your lawnmower, his price up front is a bottle of Scotch.

What a coincidence, so is mine. 😃

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2015, 12:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-15-try-open-spoilers/715734/104 "2015-03-25T00:10:16Z")

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> [@doorhinge](#):
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> What a coincidence, so is mine. 😃

As is that of any intelligent person, in those trying times.  
🙂

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**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2015, 12:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-15-try-open-spoilers/715734/105 "2015-03-25T00:10:16Z")

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So have people completely given up on the idea of radio communication? All those ham radio operators we make fun of…

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**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2015, 12:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-15-try-open-spoilers/715734/106 "2015-03-25T00:35:10Z")

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> [@levdrakon](#):
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> Growing tobacco, pot and distilling booze would probably be a few of the first things people did, once all the screaming and running away calmed down after the ZA.
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> A greenhouse would be a no-brainer, though you’d have to grow a lot of cocoa beans. You’d also need to produce sugar, although there are probably warehouses full of that.

I’m sure you can grow sugar beets in Georgia, but yes, as you say, there would still be warehouses full of pallets of dry sugar that should last them decades.

> [@levdrakon](#):
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> So have people completely given up on the idea of radio communication? All those ham radio operators we make fun of…

Have we seen them doing anything with radios (except a bit a few episodes ago) since the very first days, when Rick was communicating with someone over the radio? They really have dropped that idea altogether.

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**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2015, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-15-try-open-spoilers/715734/107 "2015-03-25T00:39:50Z")

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> [@Cat\_Whisperer](#):
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> I’m sure you can grow sugar beets in Georgia, but yes, as you say, there would still be warehouses full of pallets of dry sugar that should last them decades.
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> Have we seen them doing anything with radios (except a bit a few episodes ago) since the very first days, when Rick was communicating with someone over the radio? They really have dropped that idea altogether.

Besides sending the gay guy out to recruit (heh) they could broadcast messages out and anyone able to respond, might still be civilized enough to invite into their community.

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**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2015, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-15-try-open-spoilers/715734/108 "2015-03-25T00:41:55Z")

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Or did Terminus broadcast? Maybe not so good an idea.

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**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2015, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-15-try-open-spoilers/715734/109 "2015-03-25T00:42:21Z")

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> [@levdrakon](#):
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> Besides sending the gay guy out to recruit (heh) they could broadcast messages out and anyone able to respond, might still be civilized enough to invite into their community.

Again, that’s making a smart plan for the future, and if our gang starts doing that, I’ll fall off my couch in surprise. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2015, 12:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-15-try-open-spoilers/715734/110 "2015-03-25T00:43:52Z")

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> [@levdrakon](#):
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> Or did Terminus broadcast? Maybe not so good an idea.

That’s the downside - the Alexandrians are going to learn that you don’t want to take all comers, because some will march in and kill all your men and rape all your women.

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**Author:** ![PatriotX](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c4cdca/32.png) [@PatriotX](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PatriotX)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2015, 1:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-15-try-open-spoilers/715734/111 "2015-03-25T01:05:20Z")

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Sam the kid helped himself to a gun when he went to get the chocolate.

Notice how Sam clung to Scarol while Rick and Pete were rolling around the town square. He sees Scarol as a mother figure who may be strong enough to protect him from Pete–prob’ly an accurate observation.

Scarol showed that taking a gun for protection is acceptable behavior.

Motive and opportunity aligned with modeled behavior.  
How can he not take a gun?

Sam kills Pete.

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**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2015, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-15-try-open-spoilers/715734/112 "2015-03-25T02:47:18Z")

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> [@PatriotX](#):
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> \<snip\>
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> Sam kills Pete.

Bingo.

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**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2015, 5:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-15-try-open-spoilers/715734/113 "2015-03-25T05:36:10Z")

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> [@Cat\_Whisperer](#):
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> I’m sure you can grow sugar beets in Georgia

They’re in DC.

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**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2015, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-15-try-open-spoilers/715734/114 "2015-03-25T15:05:52Z")

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Not a bad episode. In the realm of Walking Dead Stupid (WDS), we have Darryl and that other guy wandering around the countryside looking for recruits and carrying weaponry consisting apparently of a crossbow and a six-shot revolver. Good choices!

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2015, 3:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-15-try-open-spoilers/715734/115 "2015-03-25T15:16:11Z")

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> [@Chefguy](#):
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> Not a bad episode. In the realm of Walking Dead Stupid (WDS), we have Darryl and that other guy wandering around the countryside looking for recruits and carrying weaponry consisting apparently of a crossbow and a six-shot revolver. Good choices!

Is that how Aaron approached Rick’s group? Perhaps he wished to appear non threatening. Do they have a car with better weapons?

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**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2015, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-15-try-open-spoilers/715734/116 "2015-03-25T17:14:00Z")

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> [@EllisDee](#):
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> They’re in DC.

Eh, close enough.

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**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2015, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-15-try-open-spoilers/715734/117 "2015-03-25T17:17:36Z")

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I don’t think beets are all that choosy. How do you get the sugar out of them, though? Is that energy intensive?

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2015, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-15-try-open-spoilers/715734/118 "2015-03-25T17:20:53Z")

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> [@Cat\_Whisperer](#):
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> Eh, close enough.

The commute is a bitch.

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**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2015, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-15-try-open-spoilers/715734/119 "2015-03-25T17:36:08Z")

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> [@levdrakon](#):
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> I don’t think beets are all that choosy. How do you get the sugar out of them, though? Is that energy intensive?

I believe the usual process is for young ladies to tell the old beets that they don’t look the least bit old and they’d be proud to go to Cancun with 'em. That should be good for a sparkly bracelet or some new shoes. 😃

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**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2015, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-15-try-open-spoilers/715734/120 "2015-03-25T18:39:25Z")

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> [@levdrakon](#):
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> I don’t think beets are all that choosy. How do you get the sugar out of them, though? Is that energy intensive?

[Getting sugar out of beets.](http://www.sucrose.com/lbeet.html) You probably would be better off just getting some beehives and using honey for your sweetening needs.

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