# The Walking Dead; 5.16 "Conquer" (open spoilers)

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**Created:** [March 29, 2015, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-16-conquer-open-spoilers/716311 "2015-03-29T23:45:54Z")\
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**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2015, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-16-conquer-open-spoilers/716311/1 "2015-03-29T23:45:54Z")

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[QUOTE=AMC]  
Daryl finds trouble while on a run; Rick and the group feel like outsiders in Alexandria, where trouble approaches the gates.  
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Season finale tonight; 90 minutes. Norman Reedus, Melissa McBride, and a surprise cast member on **Talking Dead**. I’m guessing the surprise cast member dies tonight. Then that’s until **_Fear the_ Walking Dead** premières this summer.

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2015, 11:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-16-conquer-open-spoilers/716311/2 "2015-03-29T23:50:50Z")

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Very eager to see this. I _really_ like the whole Alexandria thing. Isn’t [S]Carol supposed to be on _Talking Dead_?

What is **_Fear The_ Walking Dead**?

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**Author:** ![GrumpyBunny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bc8723/32.png) [@GrumpyBunny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrumpyBunny)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2015, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-16-conquer-open-spoilers/716311/3 "2015-03-29T23:59:35Z")

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I really, really hope that Sling doesn’t crap out again like it did last week. :mad:

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**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2015, 12:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-16-conquer-open-spoilers/716311/4 "2015-03-30T00:14:35Z")

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> [@John\_Mace](#):
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> Very eager to see this. I _really_ like the whole Alexandria thing. Isn’t [S]Carol supposed to be on _Talking Dead_?
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> What is **_Fear The_ Walking Dead**?

_Fear the Walking Dead_ is a spinoff that is set in the Los Angeles area, taking place around the time of the zombie outbreak.

There’s a thread about it around here somewhere.

Ah, here you go…

> **[Walking Dead Spin Off Now has a Title...](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=752873)**
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> It’s Fear the Walking Dead. Somehow they have found a title that is simultaneously boring and easy to confuse with the original.

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**Author:** ![BeepKillBeep](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9e8a1a/32.png) [@BeepKillBeep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BeepKillBeep)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2015, 12:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-16-conquer-open-spoilers/716311/5 "2015-03-30T00:19:15Z")

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Very excited for tonight’s episode!!

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**Author:** ![grude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47774/32.png) [@grude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/grude)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2015, 1:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-16-conquer-open-spoilers/716311/6 "2015-03-30T01:11:48Z")

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I’m getting tired of absolute crazies who want to kill for the sake of killing, forget gaining anything or the risks involved they just wanna kill dammit!

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**Author:** ![MacTech](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c0e974/32.png) [@MacTech](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MacTech)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2015, 1:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-16-conquer-open-spoilers/716311/7 "2015-03-30T01:30:24Z")

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[S]Carol is quite the tactician now, playing the angles even inside our Mötley Crew…

Nice to see Morgan again, and see him put a pounding on the “Wolves”

It’s obvious that Alexandria will come under attack from the Wolves and will need the assistance of The Rictatorship

My spider sense is predicting that…

Maggie or Glenn may die tonight

Please oh please let fuckwit Gabriel end up as Purina Walker Chow tonight…

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**Author:** ![grude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47774/32.png) [@grude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/grude)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2015, 1:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-16-conquer-open-spoilers/716311/8 "2015-03-30T01:47:01Z")

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What could possibly be the point of creating that elaborate and labor intensive and dangerous to set trap with the trucks? To kill a few scavengers? Why tie up zombie torsos inside the trucks?!

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**Author:** ![MacTech](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c0e974/32.png) [@MacTech](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MacTech)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2015, 2:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-16-conquer-open-spoilers/716311/9 "2015-03-30T02:02:58Z")

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No, no, fucking NO! This had better be a fake out!

If not, time to evacuate our crew and nuke Alexandria, or at least burn it to the ground, let the Wolves take them…

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**Author:** ![grude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47774/32.png) [@grude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/grude)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2015, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-16-conquer-open-spoilers/716311/10 "2015-03-30T02:03:38Z")

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Nah, this might be the episode that finally makes me stop watching. And the only one I watched live(god the commercials!).

My god they are making Gabriel even more despicable, he is now Miguel from Day Of The Dead!

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**Author:** ![MacTech](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c0e974/32.png) [@MacTech](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MacTech)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2015, 2:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-16-conquer-open-spoilers/716311/11 "2015-03-30T02:20:06Z")

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Excellent fakeout with Glenn there…

Fuckwit Gabriel better end up as Walker Chow now, the sooner the better

Plenty of Stealth Walkers in Alexandria thanks to the open gate, FWG’s fault as usual, please, he needs to be Walker chow

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**Author:** ![eenerms](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/cdc98d/32.png) [@eenerms](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eenerms)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2015, 2:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-16-conquer-open-spoilers/716311/12 "2015-03-30T02:20:38Z")

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Wtf😞

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**Author:** ![IvoryTowerDenizen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ivorytowerdenizen/32/17937_2.png) [@IvoryTowerDenizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IvoryTowerDenizen)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2015, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-16-conquer-open-spoilers/716311/13 "2015-03-30T02:31:51Z")

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What did the note in the car say?

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**Author:** ![leftfield6](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leftfield6/32/18780_2.png) [@leftfield6](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/leftfield6)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2015, 2:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-16-conquer-open-spoilers/716311/14 "2015-03-30T02:32:45Z")

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> [@IvoryTowerDenizen](#):
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> What did the note in the car say?

Something like " Don’t stay, trap, bad people coming"

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**Author:** ![Dale\_Sams](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/779978/32.png) [@Dale\_Sams](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dale_Sams)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2015, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-16-conquer-open-spoilers/716311/15 "2015-03-30T02:33:33Z")

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Have they determined yet if the outbreak was a Living Dead scenario (Initial zombies are dead people who eventually overrun the Earth) Or one where the vast majority of humanity died all at once and then came back as zombies?

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**Author:** ![grude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47774/32.png) [@grude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/grude)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2015, 2:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-16-conquer-open-spoilers/716311/16 "2015-03-30T02:34:25Z")

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Why would all the trailers be rigged to open at once if it wasn’t a trap, but instead just a load of weaponized zombies?

Why the chained up torsos?

Is this whole show just some kind of grand statement against self defense? That no matter how many times someone intentionally tries to rape or murder you if you defend yourself you’ve become savage or something?:smack:

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**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2015, 2:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-16-conquer-open-spoilers/716311/17 "2015-03-30T02:34:50Z")

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> [@MacTech](#):
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> …My spider sense is predicting that…
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> Maggie or Glenn may die tonight
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> Please oh please let fuckwit Gabriel end up as Purina Walker Chow tonight…

Nope, no major cast deaths, and Gabriel is still alive (though it looks like the Alexandrians are going to start seeing for what he is next season). Still sucks that they lost their only doctor, and without a scene with Jessie calling Deana & co about not doing anything re him beating her.

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**Author:** ![Spoke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a88e57/32.png) [@Spoke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoke)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2015, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-16-conquer-open-spoilers/716311/18 "2015-03-30T02:36:58Z")

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Gabriel needs to get “W”-ed.

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**Author:** ![leftfield6](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leftfield6/32/18780_2.png) [@leftfield6](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/leftfield6)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2015, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-16-conquer-open-spoilers/716311/19 "2015-03-30T02:37:19Z")

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> [@alphaboi867](#):
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> Nope, no major cast deaths, and Gabriel is still alive (though it looks like the Alexandrians are going to start seeing for what he is next season). Still sucks that they lost their only doctor, and without a scene with Jessie calling Deana & co about not doing anything re him beating her.

Do we know that they lost their doctor? Deanna said “do it”, but they don’t show whether he shot Dr Beater or did he do a headshot on Mr Deanna?? Someone needed to stop him from turning.

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**Author:** ![grude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47774/32.png) [@grude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/grude)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2015, 2:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-16-conquer-open-spoilers/716311/20 "2015-03-30T02:44:01Z")

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> [@Spoke](#):
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> Gabriel needs to get “W”-ed.

Gabriel at this point is nothing but a liability, he intentionally tried to get everyone killed by leaving the gate open and letting zombies in. There is no way they can risk him unsupervised access to anything anymore, I suppose they could chain him to a wall. Exiling him he could just return and try to sabotage the gate again, or lead another group back there.

I’m guessing the moral dilemma next season will be what to do with dead weight Gabe.

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