# The Walking Dead; 5.16 "Conquer" (open spoilers)

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [March 29, 2015, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-16-conquer-open-spoilers/716311 "2015-03-29T23:45:54Z")\
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**Author:** ![Bone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bone/32/407_2.png) [@Bone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bone)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2015, 3:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-16-conquer-open-spoilers/716311/181 "2015-03-31T15:31:21Z")

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> [@PatriotX](#):
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> There are lots of ways to dispatch zombies en masse.  
> Just like real life, the tricky part is always, “What do you do with with the bodies?”
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> I voted for Zombie based bio-fuels.  
> Though it may not be the best bet, iirc

Some combination of mulcher/incinerator. What I don’t get is why they wouldn’t spend time to build giant concrete walls, and moats. A giant trench that you periodically burn may work - though the resulting fumes would be nasty and probably act as a beacon.

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2015, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-16-conquer-open-spoilers/716311/182 "2015-03-31T15:38:32Z")

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Doesn’t this episode demonstrate that corpses make good bedding material when you need some introspective me-time?

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**Author:** ![Spoke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a88e57/32.png) [@Spoke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoke)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2015, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-16-conquer-open-spoilers/716311/183 "2015-03-31T15:41:22Z")

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> [@Laggard](#):
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> Nothing like a zombie siren to attract every walker in a ten country area. 😛

Oh yeah. Good point. There must be a way to sound an alarm, though.

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2015, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-16-conquer-open-spoilers/716311/184 "2015-03-31T15:46:17Z")

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I go Patriotx’s bio fuels. Render 'em down. 🙂

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**Author:** ![The\_Joker\_and\_the\_Thief](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e79b87/32.png) [@The\_Joker\_and\_the\_Thief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Joker_and_the_Thief)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2015, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-16-conquer-open-spoilers/716311/185 "2015-03-31T15:55:16Z")

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> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#):
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> At this point, everyone should be wearing sturdy gloves. If a zombie gets too close, one good smack in the mouth will knock loose all its teeth.

Abraham was wearing hard-knuckle gloves in this episode and in the 14th episode as well.

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**Author:** ![Master\_Wang-Ka](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/master_wang-ka/32/3325_2.png) [@Master\_Wang-Ka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Master_Wang-Ka)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2015, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-16-conquer-open-spoilers/716311/186 "2015-03-31T15:57:23Z")

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Heavy gauntleted gloves. High leather boots. Forearm protectors, like the one Brad Pitt made out of magazines and strapping tape at the beginning of World War Z.

Seems like these would be standard procedure. And some kind of neck and shoulder protectors, considering how many people seem to get stealth attacked by zombies who sneak up and take a hunk out of their necks…

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2015, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-16-conquer-open-spoilers/716311/187 "2015-03-31T16:01:46Z")

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> [@Spoke](#):
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> Oh yeah. Good point. There must be a way to sound an alarm, though.

Consider a small station consisting of a bright flashing light powered by a truck battery. Flip a switch to turn it on. Place stations like this at all the intersections and elsewhere. If you see a flashing light, go immediately to the nearest light station and turn it on as well. Within a few minutes, all the stations should be flashing and everyone who is awake should be alert, and it’s all quiet and virtually invisible outside the walls.

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**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2015, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-16-conquer-open-spoilers/716311/188 "2015-03-31T16:46:38Z")

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> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#):
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> Consider a small station consisting of a bright flashing light powered by a truck battery. Flip a switch to turn it on. Place stations like this at all the intersections and elsewhere. If you see a flashing light, go immediately to the nearest light station and turn it on as well. Within a few minutes, all the stations should be flashing and everyone who is awake should be alert, and it’s all quiet and virtually invisible outside the walls.

The beacons have been lit - Gondor calls for aid!

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**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2015, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-16-conquer-open-spoilers/716311/189 "2015-03-31T17:57:02Z")

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> [@Why\_Child](#):
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> Go ahead and add me to your list of singers, **doorhinge**!! Can you imagine that?! THREE people, singing about the Group W stench? 😉 😃

According to Guthrie, three people would make it a movement. 😉

I searched the original lyrics and found this gem (this song writes itself).

_See that man sitting down under the seat  
Walk up and tell him you want something to eat  
Because you can eat anyone that you want  
At Alice’s restaurant  
Oh, oh, yeah, mmm_

[http://www.metrolyrics.com/alices-restaurant-lyrics-arlo-guthrie.html](http://www.metrolyrics.com/alices-restaurant-lyrics-arlo-guthrie.html)

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**Author:** ![gytalf2000](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ac91a4/32.png) [@gytalf2000](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gytalf2000)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2015, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-16-conquer-open-spoilers/716311/190 "2015-03-31T17:58:49Z")

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> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#):
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> Doesn’t this episode demonstrate that corpses make good bedding material when you need some introspective me-time?

Yeah, that was a “Hallmark moment”.

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**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2015, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-16-conquer-open-spoilers/716311/191 "2015-03-31T18:03:23Z")

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> [@Tangent](#):
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> Wolves are known to pose a danger to those wearing red hoods.

BWAHahahahah. It so obvious.

(Now that you’ve pointed it out to me. Doh! :smack: )

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**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2015, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-16-conquer-open-spoilers/716311/192 "2015-03-31T18:07:31Z")

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> [@Master\_Wang-Ka](#):
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> Read a short story once where an Amish community, after losing their horses, used zombies to pull plows.
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> With a little girl skipping ahead to keep them motivated…

Amish are hardcore.

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**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2015, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-16-conquer-open-spoilers/716311/193 "2015-03-31T18:19:43Z")

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> [@Spoke](#):
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> I was thinking that at the very least they need a zombie siren to sound when the walls have been breached.
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> Also, as per usual, no one seems to give any thought as to what would happen if somebody were to die of natural causes inside the compound.

I would like to think that the sound of gunfire would wake some of the residents?

After two+ years, and the recent loss of four scavengers, I assume Alexandria has some method of dealing with the recently deceased. It just hasn’t been discussed on the TV show. Maybe Drunk Doc delivered the coup de grâce?

Judging by the poor shooting performance at the construction site, I’m not sure Alexandrians understand the importance of destroying the brain. Abe Ford should have that fact drilled into their heads, and the cobwebs outta their asses, by the start of Season 6.

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**Author:** ![Quimby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/22d042/32.png) [@Quimby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quimby)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2015, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-16-conquer-open-spoilers/716311/194 "2015-03-31T21:08:32Z")

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> [@Laggard](#):
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> Answering if possible without spoilers, can walkers starve to death?

I don’t think Walkers are like Vampire in that they need “food” to live. I think they eat flesh because whatever disease causes them to shamble about also drives them to eat flesh. I would bet a Zombie with a hole in it stomach would probably just keep re eating the same gore over and over.

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**Author:** ![Master\_Wang-Ka](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/master_wang-ka/32/3325_2.png) [@Master\_Wang-Ka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Master_Wang-Ka)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2015, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-16-conquer-open-spoilers/716311/195 "2015-03-31T22:02:11Z")

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> [@Push\_You\_Down](#):
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> How would that even happen? There’s only a handful of cops even left there.  
> I’m not saying they send Aaron or even Daryl alone. Hell, even a supply run crew of 4 if it was made up of competent people wouldn’t have much trouble getting there and seeing what’s what.

Only took two to catch Beth. Admittedly, the hospital folks did seem pretty dependent, considering none of them wanted to be free.

There is also the matter of a pack of armed cops… suddenly having to integrate into a society where they don’t give the orders, and no one has to wait on them hand and foot. I think we’ve already established that these are not good people, even if the worst of them are now dead.

Daryl, of course, could handle them all singlehandedly with his hands behind his back, but this would not solve the problem of integrating them into Alexandria.

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**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2015, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-16-conquer-open-spoilers/716311/196 "2015-03-31T22:19:50Z")

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> [@Master\_Wang-Ka](#):
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> Read a short story once where an Amish community, after losing their horses, used zombies to pull plows.
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> With a little girl skipping ahead to keep them motivated…

this needs to be in the credits instead of meadow zombie.

the mental picture is a surreal blend and somehow beethoven’s 6th is playing…

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**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2015, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-16-conquer-open-spoilers/716311/197 "2015-03-31T22:20:28Z")

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It’s funny how they’ve explored an area 50 miles out from Alexandria. That covers a ton of metro area. Seems like they could find more people.

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**Author:** ![Push\_You\_Down](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/push_you_down/32/9095_2.png) [@Push\_You\_Down](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Push_You_Down)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2015, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-16-conquer-open-spoilers/716311/198 "2015-03-31T22:22:58Z")

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> [@levdrakon](#):
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> It’s funny how they’ve explored an area 50 miles out from Alexandria. That covers a ton of metro area. Seems like they could find more people.

they did state that the area had been largely evacuated.

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**Author:** ![Master\_Wang-Ka](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/master_wang-ka/32/3325_2.png) [@Master\_Wang-Ka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Master_Wang-Ka)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2015, 10:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-16-conquer-open-spoilers/716311/199 "2015-03-31T22:27:22Z")

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> [@levdrakon](#):
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> It’s funny how they’ve explored an area 50 miles out from Alexandria. That covers a ton of metro area. Seems like they could find more people.

They’re finding all KINDS of people. It’s just that the vast majority seem to be life-impaired…

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**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2015, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-16-conquer-open-spoilers/716311/200 "2015-03-31T22:29:47Z")

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> [@Push\_You\_Down](#):
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> they did state that the area had been largely evacuated.

Yeah that’s what they said, but there’s no shortage of zombies. I think they said Northern VA was evacuated, but that still leaves DC & Maryland. That whole region is pretty densely populated. Guess that’s where all the zombies are migrating in from. I know we just have to accept what they tell us.

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