# The Walking Dead; 5.16 "Conquer" (open spoilers) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [March 29, 2015, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-16-conquer-open-spoilers/716311 "2015-03-29T23:45:54Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 13
**Author:** ![tapu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/49beb7/32.png) [@tapu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tapu)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2015, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-16-conquer-open-spoilers/716311/241 "2015-04-04T02:03:51Z")
> [@grude](#): > > I’ve been saying FOREVER that whenever they go out on a scavenging run they need to take along a gaggle of neutered zombies not only for protection and camo, but for free labor! Strap em’ up with your scavenged goods in backpacks! > > When our characters have been doing walkabouts, let the freaking neutered zombies carry supplies and the load. > > Honestly if I was in the Walking Dead world, I’d wear zombie guts camo whenever in “public”, hell seems best to stay in a swarm even protection from human raiders or psychos. > > I would have no mental crisis about becoming the dead. Grude, again you’ve captured some specific thoughts I had. One is why no one ever followed Michonne’s technique of yoking zombies. She did it, and then it didn’t come up again. ?? ---
**Author:** ![tapu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/49beb7/32.png) [@tapu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tapu)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2015, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-16-conquer-open-spoilers/716311/242 "2015-04-04T02:35:36Z")
Anyone remember back when Michonne had the “twins,” was there ever anything said like, this is taboo, or it’s not really a good idea to do this, or somesuch? Maybe something around when she killed them–reallyfast? ---
**Author:** ![tapu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/49beb7/32.png) [@tapu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tapu)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2015, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-16-conquer-open-spoilers/716311/243 "2015-04-04T02:36:48Z")
nm… ---
**Author:** ![grude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47774/32.png) [@grude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/grude)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2015, 3:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-16-conquer-open-spoilers/716311/244 "2015-04-04T03:05:08Z")
> [@doorhinge](#): > > Maybe Europe, or Asia, wasn’t effected? Maybe the colder climates of a Canada, Sweden, and Siberia weren’t affected? The CDC guy told them that France at least was also dealing with the zombie issue, until they and all other contacts around the world went dark. ---
**Author:** ![grude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47774/32.png) [@grude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/grude)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2015, 3:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-16-conquer-open-spoilers/716311/245 "2015-04-04T03:08:00Z")
> [@tapu](#): > > Grude, again you’ve captured some specific thoughts I had. One is why no one ever followed Michonne’s technique of yoking zombies. She did it, and then it didn’t come up again. ?? When the Gov made his final assault on the prison and everyone got broken up when they had to flee, Michonne made another pair of yoked zombies and it worked perfectly allowing her to move unnoticed in a small swarm in the woods. But then she had a mental freakout and killed them all, apparently she felt like she was becoming a zombie too or something.:smack: Since then we haven’t seen anyone do it, Carol used the guts camo to sneak into a swarm when she rescued everyone from Terminus but again it has been ignored. ---
**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2015, 10:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-16-conquer-open-spoilers/716311/246 "2015-04-04T10:16:00Z")
The first two mules Michonne had were people she said deserved it. Zombies are something you avoid or kill, but they were once human, so I could see how abusing them would be like defiling the dead. I could see it being taboo. I joke about hooking them up to a plow or something but in reality I probably wouldn’t. ---
**Author:** ![Shakester](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shakester/32/437_2.png) [@Shakester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shakester)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2015, 10:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-16-conquer-open-spoilers/716311/247 "2015-04-04T10:33:47Z")
> [@levdrakon](#): > > The first two mules Michonne had were people she said deserved it. Zombies are something you avoid or kill, but they were once human, so I could see how abusing them would be like defiling the dead. I could see it being taboo. I joke about hooking them up to a plow or something but in reality I probably wouldn’t. The first two Michonne had were her husband and his best friend. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2015, 1:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-16-conquer-open-spoilers/716311/248 "2015-04-04T13:41:43Z")
> [@Shakester](#): > > The first two Michonne had were her husband and his best friend. Who, I understand, ate her child. ---
**Author:** ![Cinnamon\_Imp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/58956e/32.png) [@Cinnamon\_Imp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cinnamon_Imp)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2015, 1:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-16-conquer-open-spoilers/716311/249 "2015-04-04T13:42:20Z")
Where did we learn this? ---
**Author:** ![leftfield6](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leftfield6/32/18780_2.png) [@leftfield6](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/leftfield6)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2015, 1:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-16-conquer-open-spoilers/716311/250 "2015-04-04T13:42:46Z")
> [@carnivorousplant](#): > > Who, I understand, ate her child. What? Did I miss something? Egads. ---
**Author:** ![Quimby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/22d042/32.png) [@Quimby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quimby)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2015, 2:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-16-conquer-open-spoilers/716311/251 "2015-04-04T14:12:25Z")
> [@msmith537](#): > > I too kind of have a problem with the population of Alexandria being a bunch of soft clueless dipshits after two years of zombie apocalypse. They make supply runs outside the wire. They send patrols to find other survivors. They’ve taken casualties. And yet they have no idea what they are doing? I’ve said this elsewhere. I agree. Alexandria has survived as long as rick has and has done so in a way that lets the benefits of Civilization continue. in a vacuum that makes them more successful than Rick in my book. Episodes since their introduction have played up the fact that most of them are a bunch of incompetents that has undercut that point but that is necessary for the structure of the show I guess. > [@carnivorousplant](#): > > I would think that some naval vessels would have survivors aboard. To a point. I think early on before the outbreak is well known, it would be pretty horrifying. All it takes is someone to die on board and you are stuck out to sea with a zombie. I could easily see it bite several people before they dispatch it (early on they would have to be lucky to damage its brain right away since they wouldn’t know that was the only means of killing one) and now you have three Zombies. ---
**Author:** ![Shakester](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shakester/32/437_2.png) [@Shakester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shakester)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2015, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-16-conquer-open-spoilers/716311/252 "2015-04-04T15:15:35Z")
> [@Cinnamon\_Imp](#): > > Where did we learn this? Season 4, episode 9 “[After](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/After_%28The_Walking_Dead%29)”, mainly. ---
**Author:** ![Cinnamon\_Imp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/58956e/32.png) [@Cinnamon\_Imp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cinnamon_Imp)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2015, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-16-conquer-open-spoilers/716311/253 "2015-04-04T15:24:09Z")
> [@Shakester](#): > > Season 4, episode 9 “[After](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/After_%28The_Walking_Dead%29)”, mainly. Cheers - I have no memory of that episode at all, mustve seen it during a binge-watching session (with additional binging…) Time for a rewatch 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2015, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-16-conquer-open-spoilers/716311/254 "2015-04-04T17:13:44Z")
> [@Quimby](#): > > I’ve said this elsewhere. I agree. Alexandria has survived as long as rick has and has done so in a way that lets the benefits of Civilization continue. in a vacuum that makes them more successful than Rick in my book. More successful for sure, no doubt. But much weaker, like the rank and file in Woodbury. What the show has told us is that the entire area was evacuated. Alexandria put up a wall to keep out the occasional walker passing through, but otherwise have gone unmolested as a community the entire two years. That’s both super successful and also extremely lucky. It is undeniable that Alexandrians are much softer and weaker than Rick’s group, and that’s _because_ of their success. Many of Rick’s group have voiced concern that staying in Alexandria will make them soft and weak too. ---
**Author:** ![Jamicat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c67d28/32.png) [@Jamicat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jamicat)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2015, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-16-conquer-open-spoilers/716311/255 "2015-04-05T16:01:06Z")
Daryl on SNL, lol…:eek: ---
**Author:** ![grude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47774/32.png) [@grude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/grude)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2015, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-16-conquer-open-spoilers/716311/256 "2015-04-05T20:18:47Z")
I wish the show would answer once and for all whether a zombie bite matters, if it is simply the bacterial infection resulting killing people by sepsis well show someone surviving and recovering with antibiotics. I dunno why it annoys we don’t know whether zombie bites do anything aside from the damage and infection, or if it is simply death=reanimation. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2015, 1:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-16-conquer-open-spoilers/716311/257 "2015-04-06T01:35:34Z")
> [@grude](#): > > I wish the show would answer once and for all whether a zombie bite matters, if it is simply the bacterial infection resulting killing people by sepsis well show someone surviving and recovering with antibiotics. > > I dunno why it annoys we don’t know whether zombie bites do anything aside from the damage and infection, or if it is simply death=reanimation. I believe you die from Zombie bites, like the komodo dragon bites. ---
**Author:** ![Magniankh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d78d45/32.png) [@Magniankh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magniankh)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2015, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-16-conquer-open-spoilers/716311/258 "2015-04-06T01:58:41Z")
> [@Mk\_VII](#): > > Nuclear submarines can remain at sea for years, the limiting factor is food stocks. Yeah, it’s naive to think that remnants of the military aren’t holding out somewhere. I haven’t read the comics, but I would hope the military factors in somewhere. Think about certain communties/bases out in the middle of nowhere, like the Mojave Desert. Wouldn’t be too hard to contain a population of 1000 or so. ---
**Author:** ![Master\_Wang-Ka](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/master_wang-ka/32/3325_2.png) [@Master\_Wang-Ka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Master_Wang-Ka)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2015, 3:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-16-conquer-open-spoilers/716311/259 "2015-04-06T03:23:56Z")
It was explained way back in the first season that zombies are caused by a virus…and that everyone already has this virus. You die, you reanimate. ---
**Author:** ![grude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47774/32.png) [@grude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/grude)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2015, 4:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-16-conquer-open-spoilers/716311/260 "2015-04-06T04:24:08Z")
> [@Master\_Wang-Ka](#): > > It was explained way back in the first season that zombies are caused by a virus…and that everyone already has this virus. You die, you reanimate. I know, however the characters almost instinctively treat zombie bite or scratch no matter how minor as certain death unless a quick amputation is done. There are numerous tense scenes where a character just barely avoids a minor bite. Which is doubly weird since zombie fiction is not supposed to exist in this universe, but the characters act like they have seen zombie movies where the infection is spread by bites. So the zombie bites should be nothing more than a serious infection, if someone in our world gets bitten by a human no one says whoa instant death. There have to be tons of antibiotics floating around still. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-16-conquer-open-spoilers/716311.md?page=12) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-16-conquer-open-spoilers/716311.md?page=14)