# The Walking Dead; 5.16 "Conquer" (open spoilers)

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**Created:** [March 29, 2015, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-16-conquer-open-spoilers/716311 "2015-03-29T23:45:54Z")\
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**Author:** ![gytalf2000](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ac91a4/32.png) [@gytalf2000](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gytalf2000)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2015, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-16-conquer-open-spoilers/716311/301 "2015-04-13T18:00:44Z")

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> [@EllisDee](#):
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> I find your objections silly because we already know it’s not a disease, virus, or pathogen. It’s magic. We know this for a fact, beyond a shadow of a doubt, from the show itself. First, **it re-animates dead people.** Not sick people. Not comatose people. DEAD people. Therefore it must be magic, not a mundane virus.
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> [Shane proved this to Hershel](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vcPKS6Rr8zY) during barnageddon.
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> Shane: What the hell are you doing?!  
> Rick: Shane, just back off.  
> Hershel: Why do your people have guns?  
> Shane: Are you kidding me? You see?! You see what you’re holding onto?!  
> Hershel: I see _who_ I’m holding onto.  
> Shane: Nah, man, you don’t.  
> Rick: Let us do this, then we can talk.  
> Shane: What you wanna talk about, Rick? These things ain’t sick. They’re not people. They’re dead. You ain’t gotta feel nothing for em 'cause all they do? They kill. These things right here. They’re the things that killed Amy. They killed Otis. They’re gonna kill all of us unless we do…  
> Rick: SHANE, STOP!  
> Shane: Hey Hershel, man, lemme ask you something. A living breathing person, can they walk away from this?  
> [Shane fires three rounds]  
> Rick: STOP IT!  
> Shane: That’s three rounds in the chest. Could someone who’s alive, could they just take that? Why is it still coming?  
> [Shane fires two rounds]  
> Shane: That’s its heart; its lungs. Why is it still coming?  
> [Shane fires three rounds]  
> Rick: Shane, enough!  
> Shane: Yeah, you right, man. That is enough.

Ya know, that really was a great scene. Darkly comedic!

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