# The Walking Dead; 5.16 "Conquer" (open spoilers)

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [March 29, 2015, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-16-conquer-open-spoilers/716311 "2015-03-29T23:45:54Z")\
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**Author:** ![Push\_You\_Down](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/push_you_down/32/9095_2.png) [@Push\_You\_Down](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Push_You_Down)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2015, 5:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-16-conquer-open-spoilers/716311/161 "2015-03-31T05:43:03Z")

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> [@Master\_Wang-Ka](#):
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> They could also wind up polishing someone’s shoes while wearing standard issue hospital scrubs.

How would that even happen? There’s only a handful of cops even left there.  
I’m not saying they send Aaron or even Daryl alone. Hell, even a supply run crew of 4 if it was made up of competent people wouldn’t have much trouble getting there and seeing what’s what.

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**Author:** ![Why\_Child](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b782af/32.png) [@Why\_Child](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Why_Child)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2015, 6:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-16-conquer-open-spoilers/716311/162 "2015-03-31T06:36:22Z")

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> [@GrumpyBunny](#):
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> I hate you. Now I’m going to think that every time I see one of the W people. And sing the song.

> [@doorhinge](#):
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> Great! Now I can tell the fam that I’m singing a duet with **GrumpyBunny**.
> 
> _You can get anything that you want  
> at Alexandria’s restaurant.  
> Walkers come in  
> It’s around the back  
> Just a half mile from the Terminus railroad track_
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> (Yeah, it needs work.)
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> 😃

Go ahead and add me to your list of singers, **doorhinge**!! Can you imagine that?! THREE people, singing about the Group W stench? 😉 😃

> [@carnivorousplant](#):
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> That is an incubus, Syko. 🙂

I believe that is a succubus, **carniverousplant**. 🙂

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2015, 11:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-16-conquer-open-spoilers/716311/163 "2015-03-31T11:04:51Z")

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> [@Why\_Child](#):
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> Go ahead and add me to your list of singers, **doorhinge**!! Can you imagine that?! THREE people, singing about the Group W stench? 😉 😃  
> I believe that is a succubus, **carniverousplant**. 🙂

You are correct. 🙂

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**Author:** ![PatriotX](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c4cdca/32.png) [@PatriotX](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PatriotX)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2015, 11:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-16-conquer-open-spoilers/716311/164 "2015-03-31T11:42:24Z")

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> [@levdrakon](#):
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> Zombie Jerky. The ultimately replenishing survival food.

There are lots of ways to dispatch zombies en masse.  
Just like real life, the tricky part is always, “What do you do with with the bodies?”

I voted for Zombie based bio-fuels.  
Though it may not be the best bet, iirc

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**Author:** ![Master\_Wang-Ka](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/master_wang-ka/32/3325_2.png) [@Master\_Wang-Ka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Master_Wang-Ka)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2015, 12:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-16-conquer-open-spoilers/716311/165 "2015-03-31T12:01:47Z")

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> [@PatriotX](#):
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> There are lots of ways to dispatch zombies en masse.  
> Just like real life, the tricky part is always, “What do you do with with the bodies?”
> 
> I voted for Zombie based bio-fuels.  
> Though it may not be the best bet, iirc

Read a short story once where an Amish community, after losing their horses, used zombies to pull plows.

With a little girl skipping ahead to keep them motivated…

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**Post date:** [March 31, 2015, 12:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-16-conquer-open-spoilers/716311/166 "2015-03-31T12:58:36Z")

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> [@Master\_Wang-Ka](#):
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> Read a short story once where an Amish community, after losing their horses, used zombies to pull plows.
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> With a little girl skipping ahead to keep them motivated…

I considered using them for beasts of burden and for other mundane tasks where a virtually(?) limitless trickle of energy would be helpful.

They wouldn’t generate that much energy in a giant hamster wheel, but they don’t get tired and apparently don’t even need to be fed or to breathe.

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**Author:** ![Master\_Wang-Ka](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/master_wang-ka/32/3325_2.png) [@Master\_Wang-Ka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Master_Wang-Ka)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2015, 1:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-16-conquer-open-spoilers/716311/167 "2015-03-31T13:30:32Z")

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> [@PatriotX](#):
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> I considered using them for beasts of burden and for other mundane tasks where a virtually(?) limitless trickle of energy would be helpful.
> 
> They wouldn’t generate that much energy in a giant hamster wheel, but they don’t get tired and apparently don’t even need to be fed or to breathe.

Now that’s a bizarre thought… zombies in a giant hamster wheel, stumbling away and generating power… trying to get to a hamster in a reinforced cage!

'Course, you’d still need to feed the hamster…

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**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2015, 1:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-16-conquer-open-spoilers/716311/168 "2015-03-31T13:41:41Z")

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> [@PatriotX](#):
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> I considered using them for beasts of burden and for other mundane tasks where a virtually(?) limitless trickle of energy would be helpful.
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> They wouldn’t generate that much energy in a giant hamster wheel, but they don’t get tired and apparently don’t even need to be fed or to breathe.

I’ve thought of that too. Hook 'em up to plows or a mill or something. You could get a lot of work done.

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**Author:** ![salinqmind](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3ec8ea/32.png) [@salinqmind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/salinqmind)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2015, 1:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-16-conquer-open-spoilers/716311/169 "2015-03-31T13:45:11Z")

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So is the Grimes family going to get a new wife-and-mommy next season? I would have mixed feelings even if my abusive husband was gunned down in front of me!

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**Author:** ![Laggard](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/9de053/32.png) [@Laggard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Laggard)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2015, 1:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-16-conquer-open-spoilers/716311/170 "2015-03-31T13:50:51Z")

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Answering if possible without spoilers, can walkers starve to death?

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**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2015, 1:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-16-conquer-open-spoilers/716311/171 "2015-03-31T13:57:02Z")

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> [@Laggard](#):
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> Answering if possible without spoilers, can walkers starve to death?

Well, the Governor kept their heads in jars and that didn’t kill them. We’ve seen others underwater. Who knows, maybe by now there are zombies walking around the bottoms of the oceans.

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**Post date:** [March 31, 2015, 1:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-16-conquer-open-spoilers/716311/172 "2015-03-31T13:58:37Z")

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> [@Laggard](#):
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> Answering if possible without spoilers, can walkers starve to death?

They seem to be able to survive indefinitely w/o access to food.  
there have been ones who have been submerged in water for some lengths of time as well.

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**Post date:** [March 31, 2015, 2:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-16-conquer-open-spoilers/716311/173 "2015-03-31T14:01:43Z")

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> [@Tangent](#):
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> Wolves are known to pose a danger to those wearing red hoods.

OH FER CRYING OUT LOUD.

Excuse me, I need to go beat myself about the head and neck for missing that one.

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**Author:** ![Anonymous\_Coward](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/94ad74/32.png) [@Anonymous\_Coward](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anonymous_Coward)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2015, 2:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-16-conquer-open-spoilers/716311/174 "2015-03-31T14:03:52Z")

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> [@Master\_Wang-Ka](#):
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> Now that’s a bizarre thought… zombies in a giant hamster wheel, stumbling away and generating power… trying to get to a hamster in a reinforced cage!
> 
> 'Course, you’d still need to feed the hamster…

I seem to recall on walking dead or another zombie flick where someone had zombies strapped to a mill wheel type of thing, and they walked around and around chasing a live prisoner also strapped to the wheel.

Maybe it was the WD comics. Anyways, that’s pretty close to your hamster wheel.

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**Post date:** [March 31, 2015, 2:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-16-conquer-open-spoilers/716311/175 "2015-03-31T14:12:57Z")

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> [@Laggard](#):
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> Answering if possible without spoilers, can walkers starve to death?

In my version of the show, the zombies metabolize themselves–esp their cranium.

I think that they somehow convert bone etc into energy

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**Post date:** [March 31, 2015, 2:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-16-conquer-open-spoilers/716311/176 "2015-03-31T14:19:05Z")

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> [@levdrakon](#):
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> Yeah, you leave the door open a few minutes and a squad of zombies stroll in. This has never happened before. Two plus years and it’s been totally safe. Rick’s group is really bad luck. Don’t let Rick’s group join you! You will suddenly need them, and it still won’t end well.

Ya got that right! HA!

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**Post date:** [March 31, 2015, 2:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-16-conquer-open-spoilers/716311/177 "2015-03-31T14:28:36Z")

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I do begin to find it a little hokey that the zombies have got so squishy that Rick can literally push his hand into one’s head… and yet those jaws and jaw muscles are still strong enough to rip loose a bite of which ever cast member we’re cutting loose.

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**Post date:** [March 31, 2015, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-16-conquer-open-spoilers/716311/178 "2015-03-31T14:46:01Z")

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> [@Master\_Wang-Ka](#):
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> I do begin to find it a little hokey that the zombies have got so squishy that Rick can literally push his hand into one’s head… and yet those jaws and jaw muscles are still strong enough to rip loose a bite of which ever cast member we’re cutting loose.

At this point, everyone should be wearing sturdy gloves. If a zombie gets too close, one good smack in the mouth will knock loose all its teeth.

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**Post date:** [March 31, 2015, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-16-conquer-open-spoilers/716311/179 "2015-03-31T14:56:34Z")

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> [@John\_Mace](#):
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> Rick sees that the gate was left open. Who knows what or how many Walkers or others have gotten inside. What’s the best plan? Go after them alone. :smack::smack::smack:

I was thinking that at the very least they need a zombie siren to sound when the walls have been breached.

Also, as per usual, no one seems to give any thought as to what would happen if somebody were to die of natural causes inside the compound.

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**Author:** ![Laggard](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/9de053/32.png) [@Laggard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Laggard)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2015, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-16-conquer-open-spoilers/716311/180 "2015-03-31T15:14:34Z")

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> [@Spoke](#):
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> I was thinking that at the very least they need a zombie siren to sound when the walls have been breached.
> 
> Also, as per usual, no one seems to give any thought as to what would happen if somebody were to die of natural causes inside the compound.

Nothing like a zombie siren to attract every walker in a ten country area. 😛

And these people really do seem clueless. I have no doubt that they would have been helpless against the walkers that Rick took care of.

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