# The Walking Dead; 6.01 "First Time Again" (open spoilers) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [October 11, 2015, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-6-01-first-time-again-open-spoilers/734382 "2015-10-11T23:59:40Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![gytalf2000](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ac91a4/32.png) [@gytalf2000](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gytalf2000)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2015, 12:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-6-01-first-time-again-open-spoilers/734382/21 "2015-10-12T12:44:18Z")
> [@cmyk](#): > > I was semi-keeping track. The face band-aids diminished as the B&W scenes went on, as far as I could tell. > > To be honest, I found all those band-aids on his face to look quite comical at first. He looked a bit goofy, that’s for sure! I laughed, as well. ---
**Author:** ![Gothic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/839c29/32.png) [@Gothic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gothic)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2015, 12:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-6-01-first-time-again-open-spoilers/734382/22 "2015-10-12T12:46:57Z")
Did they show Judith in color? I think she has been recast. Is Gabriel ok now after his big confession? Quarry, why did it have to be a quarry? If Morgan smiled and gave Rick a thumbs up I would stroke out. ---
**Author:** ![FXMastermind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fxmastermind/32/7289_2.png) [@FXMastermind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FXMastermind)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2015, 12:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-6-01-first-time-again-open-spoilers/734382/23 "2015-10-12T12:59:58Z")
> [@Gothic](#): > > Quarry, why did it have to be a quarry? I blame Snowboarder Bo ---
**Author:** ![GrumpyBunny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bc8723/32.png) [@GrumpyBunny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrumpyBunny)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2015, 1:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-6-01-first-time-again-open-spoilers/734382/24 "2015-10-12T13:22:01Z")
Loved the episode, loved the use of B&W to show “flashbacks” (not very far back). > [@theR](#): > > It’s the Wolves. That’s what I thought as well, but it could also be Father Gabriel. Someone should’ve thrown him in the quarry. Eugene’s mullet is now its own character. Loved the throwaway funny lines. Michonne’s line about “you always think there’s another peanut butter” [protein bar] was perfect. ETA: It was a suspension of disbelief, but I dug the zombie parade. Also, the idea of a zombie parade. ---
**Author:** ![SykoSkotty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c0e974/32.png) [@SykoSkotty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SykoSkotty)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2015, 2:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-6-01-first-time-again-open-spoilers/734382/25 "2015-10-12T14:00:53Z")
Loved it - way intense, full of action and lots of walkers! I don’t see how they could just “fire bomb” the quarry. First of all, _with what?_ Do they have fighter jets stored somewhere? Secondly, setting them on fire doesn’t kill them. I was digging the black and white flash backs. Something new to keep the storyline fresh. As for the horn, my first thought was Ron. ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2015, 2:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-6-01-first-time-again-open-spoilers/734382/26 "2015-10-12T14:09:45Z")
> [@GrumpyBunny](#): > > Loved the throwaway funny lines. Michonne’s line about “you always think there’s another peanut butter” [protein bar] was perfect. I really want to watch that old episode now to see if she took it or not. The best part about that scene was that Morgan seemed genuinely upset about his protein bar. ---
**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2015, 2:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-6-01-first-time-again-open-spoilers/734382/27 "2015-10-12T14:27:12Z")
> [@Gothic](#): > > Did they show Judith in color? I think she has been recast. Is Gabriel ok now after his big confession? Quarry, why did it have to be a quarry? If Morgan smiled and gave Rick a thumbs up I would stroke out. Judith has certainly been recast. In story, only a few weeks have passed since the end of last season, and babies grow quickly. ---
**Author:** ![SuperNelson](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/7feea3/32.png) [@SuperNelson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SuperNelson)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2015, 2:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-6-01-first-time-again-open-spoilers/734382/28 "2015-10-12T14:45:27Z")
> [@DigitalC](#): > > I really want to watch that old episode now to see if she took it or not. The best part about that scene was that Morgan seemed genuinely upset about his protein bar. They referenced it in the story sync online. She did take the protein bar, and when Rick gave her a look for taking it, Michonne said, “Sign said ‘Welcome.’” (If I recall, the welcome mat was the one that triggered the first booby trap). I think she later shared it with Carl. ---
**Author:** ![Master\_Wang-Ka](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/master_wang-ka/32/3325_2.png) [@Master\_Wang-Ka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Master_Wang-Ka)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2015, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-6-01-first-time-again-open-spoilers/734382/29 "2015-10-12T14:46:33Z")
Firebombing the quarry wouldn’t work unless they had a hell of a lot of gasoline or some fuel air explosives. Too durn many zombies. Fire will kill them or incapacitate them, but not quickly, and I’d think they need to conserve their magic gasoline which never seems to go bad. (Sorry… just nitpickin’. MY gasoline goes bad if I leave it in the garage all winter, and then it makes the mower cough and malfunction…) I’d be surprised if the hornblower was Father Gabriel. He seems to be working on redemption. Either that, or the Wolves are attacking and he’s calling for help, without thinking of the consequences. Which would be in character for him. I’m gambling on him being the Next Dead Black Guy, and for once I’m rooting for him to get et… ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2015, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-6-01-first-time-again-open-spoilers/734382/30 "2015-10-12T14:46:46Z")
I, too, am a bit confused about how they were going to “fire bomb” the quarry. That’s a pretty big quarry. ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2015, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-6-01-first-time-again-open-spoilers/734382/31 "2015-10-12T14:56:05Z")
The problem was that the zombies got loose literally as everyone showed up at the quarry, so at that point Rick’s solution was conveniently the only viable alternative. Given time fortifying the gates and slowly whittling down the zombie horde would probably have been much better than simply letting them all loose and hoping they kept walking and became someone else’s problem. ---
**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2015, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-6-01-first-time-again-open-spoilers/734382/32 "2015-10-12T14:56:34Z")
They must have used a lot of gasoline moving all those cars into place. I also wondered why Michonne chose a beater that looked like it might conk out at any moment with all those other cars available. ---
**Author:** ![randwill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/a3d4f5/32.png) [@randwill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/randwill)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2015, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-6-01-first-time-again-open-spoilers/734382/33 "2015-10-12T15:18:20Z")
It was very lucky for Eugene that Rick and company were going house to house and barging into each front door and happened to come into that house at that moment. ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2015, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-6-01-first-time-again-open-spoilers/734382/34 "2015-10-12T15:21:12Z")
> [@randwill](#): > > It was very lucky for Eugene that Rick and company were going house to house and barging into each front door and happened to come into that house at that moment. I assumed they heard all the crashing. Eugene made a hell of a racket. ---
**Author:** ![Lightnin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightnin/32/180_2.png) [@Lightnin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightnin)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2015, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-6-01-first-time-again-open-spoilers/734382/35 "2015-10-12T15:26:37Z")
I thought the plan to clear out the quarry was just a bad idea from the get-go. I mean, the entire reason Alexandria is safe is because that quarry has been hoovering up the herds. If you get them out of there, all you’re doing is putting them back in the wild and taking the chance that they won’t come back and literally bite you in the ass. Just fortify the exits on the damn thing and let it keep protecting you. I did find it amusing that they built the new walls with the braces on the correct side. Every time they show the wall around Alexandria I just cringe. I was pretty happy to see Ethan Embry in the cast- he’s always been one of my favorite actors. And then he died like a little bitch… ---
**Author:** ![Antinor01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecae2f/32.png) [@Antinor01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Antinor01)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2015, 3:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-6-01-first-time-again-open-spoilers/734382/36 "2015-10-12T15:29:31Z")
> [@Edward\_The\_Head](#): > > Why didn’t they just fire bomb the quarry? They also could have used a truck and had a couple of people in the back shooting walkers. This way they would have had more noise and they would have had taken out at least a few hundred of them. > > I liked it, far more then any of the Fear the Walking Dead shows. Took me a bit to figure out why they were going from B&W to color. That was exactly my thought! ---
**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2015, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-6-01-first-time-again-open-spoilers/734382/37 "2015-10-12T15:49:59Z")
I found this episode to be highly entertaining. Make a plan, try to impliment the plan, adjust the plan as needed. Adapt and overcome. Resorting to black and white for flashbacks was certainly less distracting than those vertical wavy lines TV shows used to use. Do do do do. Do do do do. Do do do do. (And it was probably easier for the editors to differentiate past from present.) My guess is that the Wolves sounded the horn. They have experience collecting and moving walkers with sounds and lights. (But so do other groups.) Fire bombing the quarry would only involve starting a flammable material and fuel oil fire somewhere in the pit. The walkers are drawn to fire. If for no other reason than burned walkers are slower than non-burned walkers. At the tractor store, Glenn, Heath, and what’s-his-name used the time-proven method of letting a few walkers out of a confined area, dispatching them, repeat. The process would just take longer at the quarry. Kicking the walkers down the road will only lead to some other survivor group being overrun by walkers. Kill 'em now, with as little danger to your own group as possible. ---
**Author:** ![SykoSkotty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c0e974/32.png) [@SykoSkotty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SykoSkotty)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2015, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-6-01-first-time-again-open-spoilers/734382/38 "2015-10-12T15:52:10Z")
> [@randwill](#): > > It was very lucky for Eugene that Rick and company were going house to house and barging into each front door and happened to come into that house at that moment. That was the armory - they were there getting ammo and supplies; a regular task. ---
**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2015, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-6-01-first-time-again-open-spoilers/734382/39 "2015-10-12T16:04:12Z")
> [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](#): > > They must have used a lot of gasoline moving all those cars into place. I also wondered why Michonne chose a beater that looked like it might conk out at any moment with all those other cars available. Do you mean Sasha and Abe Ford, in the two-tone, red/primer land yacht? That’s the car Aaron was using to make his runs. I suspect that the running gear had been regularly maintained and was in pretty good shape. ---
**Author:** ![theR](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/977dab/32.png) [@theR](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/theR)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2015, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-6-01-first-time-again-open-spoilers/734382/40 "2015-10-12T16:24:51Z")
> [@Lightnin](#): > > I thought the plan to clear out the quarry was just a bad idea from the get-go. I mean, the entire reason Alexandria is safe is because that quarry has been hoovering up the herds. If you get them out of there, all you’re doing is putting them back in the wild and taking the chance that they won’t come back and literally bite you in the ass. Just fortify the exits on the damn thing and let it keep protecting you. > > I did find it amusing that they built the new walls with the braces on the correct side. Every time they show the wall around Alexandria I just cringe. > > I was pretty happy to see Ethan Embry in the cast- he’s always been one of my favorite actors. And then he died like a little bitch… I agree. What was the endgame, anyway? Did I miss what they said they were going to do with the zombies, or was it just to lead them away and hope they don’t come back? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-6-01-first-time-again-open-spoilers/734382.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-6-01-first-time-again-open-spoilers/734382.md?page=3)