# The Walking Dead; 6.01 "First Time Again" (open spoilers) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [October 11, 2015, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-6-01-first-time-again-open-spoilers/734382 "2015-10-11T23:59:40Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Master\_Wang-Ka](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/master_wang-ka/32/3325_2.png) [@Master\_Wang-Ka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Master_Wang-Ka)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2015, 1:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-6-01-first-time-again-open-spoilers/734382/81 "2015-10-13T01:51:46Z")
Well, the whole issue was that they would not STAY in the quarry; Rick said flat out that a hard rain could wipe out the barrier keeping them in there, and then they’d wander out and threaten the entire surrounding area. Assuming I had the resources and knowhow to start and use a bulldozer, and all the fuel I could buy, where would I find one, assuming I did not have access to Google or online rentals? Or, for that matter, a ginormous dump truck? Sure, I suppose if I could obtain a Sherman tank, I could just drive into the quarry and do doughnuts until the moaning stopped… …but Rick is down to the resources at hand. Which ain’t much. ---
**Author:** ![Master\_Wang-Ka](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/master_wang-ka/32/3325_2.png) [@Master\_Wang-Ka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Master_Wang-Ka)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2015, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-6-01-first-time-again-open-spoilers/734382/82 "2015-10-13T01:52:46Z")
…and I wouldn’t want to try and build a brick wall holding the zombies in the quarry while the zombies in question were right there and trying to get OUT of the quarry… no matter HOW much concrete I could lay hands on… ---
**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2015, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-6-01-first-time-again-open-spoilers/734382/83 "2015-10-13T01:59:03Z")
> [@GrumpyBunny](#): > > Concrete. Lots and lots of concrete. Leave 'em there, layer in more concrete as needed as more zombies fall in. > > I realize that would be an utter fecktonne of concrete, and that it’s not very compelling TV. But my first thought was to just keep them in the quarry. Does Rick have a replicator I don’t know a about? 'Cause I’m pretty sure there’s not a Lowe’s open nearby. ---
**Author:** ![Master\_Wang-Ka](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/master_wang-ka/32/3325_2.png) [@Master\_Wang-Ka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Master_Wang-Ka)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2015, 2:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-6-01-first-time-again-open-spoilers/734382/84 "2015-10-13T02:01:11Z")
May well be a Home Depot handy, but I’d think it got hit pretty hard during the pre-Apocalypse rush… ---
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2015, 2:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-6-01-first-time-again-open-spoilers/734382/85 "2015-10-13T02:59:39Z")
Shooting thousands of zombies is almost as silly of an idea as fire-bombing them. Why would you waste thousands and thousands of rounds of ammo like that? > [@Edward\_The\_Head](#): > > Um, this is a comic book really. The comic book elements come off as cheesy and lame in a tv drama. The last thing we need is more comic bookiness. ---
**Author:** ![CannyDan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cannydan/32/548_2.png) [@CannyDan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CannyDan)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2015, 4:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-6-01-first-time-again-open-spoilers/734382/86 "2015-10-13T04:03:50Z")
I enjoyed the episode, all things considered. So my comments go more toward “if this was real” than complaints about the story as presented. I think there would be several viable options for destroying zombies in a quarry. I am not convinced that all resources would have been expended, whether the apocalypse was swift or slow. Diesel and gas should still be present in tanks underground at filling stations pretty much everywhere. One such tank can have a capacity of 10,000 gallons and there are several on every street corner in every town and most hamlets. Any Home D or Lowes will have gasoline powered pumps that can suck it out, or electrical generators that can power the regular pumps. I bet a bit of searching would locate several tankers loaded with fuel, abandoned in the middle of a delivery route. This would feed a conflagration that could incinerate thousands, and immobilize lots more. If you prefer mechanical solutions, there must be a heavy equipment dealer or user somewhere nearby. There is absolutely nothing in a human body, or hundreds of once-human bodies, that can stop a heavy dozer. Add a protective cage for the driver and he can drive back and forth with impunity. Add a guarded narrow gate through which he can retreat for fuel fills and you’ve got a 9 to 5 job until the zombies run out. More fun but maybe not available (there) is a thing called a citrus hedger. Citrus trees are trimmed like garden hedges. The machine that does it is big as a tree, with multiple huge spinning blades mounted on multiple hydraulic actuated articulated arms. Unlike the dozer which has to run zombies over, the hedger can reach out and touch them. Lots of them. And as somebody said up thread, quarries and explosives go together. There should be things in the explosives shed that can pulverize zombies wholesale. Happy times! ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2015, 4:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-6-01-first-time-again-open-spoilers/734382/87 "2015-10-13T04:11:58Z")
> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#): > > Okay, let’s say bulldozers are out, which is a pity, I must say. Picture two pickup trucks, each with a bar across the flatbed at such a height that if two people were seated facing the back, they could comfortably rest their rifles on that bar such that the barrels were about 5.5 feet off the ground. Then drive the two trucks slowly, side by side, with four shooters blasting away. The noise keeps the zombies following, and each shot could easily take out three or four at a time considering how tightly clustered they are, and having two shooters per truck means they can take turns to reload or to change weapons if one jams or overheats. Equip a third truck similarly as a backup, in case one fails. Heck, equip a whole bunch of trucks and rotate them and the shooters all through the day. Efficient, effective and economical, and the horde should be fairly-thinned as you died-piper further and further away. By sunset, speed up and leave them behind, hopefully a good thirty miles down the road. > > Of course, the air horn sounded by persons unknown will make a mess of _any_ plan. - We fired our guns and the zombies kept a comin, There wasn’t nigh as many as there was a while ago, we fired once more, and then began to runnin, straight back to the quarry where the horn done blow.\* ---
**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2015, 4:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-6-01-first-time-again-open-spoilers/734382/88 "2015-10-13T04:24:55Z")
Swinging a wrecking ball into the horde (somehow) would be a hell of a lot of fun. ---
**Author:** ![Shakester](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shakester/32/437_2.png) [@Shakester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shakester)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2015, 4:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-6-01-first-time-again-open-spoilers/734382/89 "2015-10-13T04:28:46Z")
> [@CannyDan](#): > > And as somebody said up thread, quarries and explosives go together. There should be things in the explosives shed that can pulverize zombies wholesale. What if the shed is IN the quarry WITH the zombies? Do you volunteer to go and raid it? ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2015, 5:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-6-01-first-time-again-open-spoilers/734382/90 "2015-10-13T05:21:16Z")
Well, you get Fred Flintstone and his brontosaurus in the quarry - they’ll make short work of the zombies, until the air horn sounds and Fred surfs the bronto’s tail right to his car. ---
**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2015, 1:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-6-01-first-time-again-open-spoilers/734382/91 "2015-10-13T13:59:05Z")
> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#): > > Well, you get Fred Flintstone and his brontosaurus in the quarry - they’ll make short work of the zombies, until the air horn sounds and Fred surfs the bronto’s tail right to his car. So…you’re saying that Mr. Slate was the one blowing the horn the other night? ---
**Author:** ![Edward\_The\_Head](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ce73a5/32.png) [@Edward\_The\_Head](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Edward_The_Head)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2015, 2:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-6-01-first-time-again-open-spoilers/734382/92 "2015-10-13T14:36:46Z")
> [@EllisDee](#): > > Shooting thousands of zombies is almost as silly of an idea as fire-bombing them. Why would you waste thousands and thousands of rounds of ammo like that? So what do you do with all of them? Yes, trying to get rid of them like they did was an ok plan, and at the time might have been the best option, but there were tons of them. It’s not a smart idea to just let them wander, they should be taken out, or at least as many as possible. Even building a crappy catapult to throw larger stones at them would take care of some of them. > [@simster](#): > > - > > We fired our guns and the zombies kept a comin, > There wasn’t nigh as many as there was a while ago, > we fired once more, and then began to runnin, > straight back to the quarry where the horn done blow.\* If you can do the zombie perspective now you’ll be my hero. ---
**Author:** ![Barkis\_is\_Willin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a183cd/32.png) [@Barkis\_is\_Willin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Barkis_is_Willin)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2015, 2:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-6-01-first-time-again-open-spoilers/734382/93 "2015-10-13T14:49:03Z")
I was meh on this one. Didn’t like the appearance of new people out of the blue. Deanna failed to mention they had a small team out on a run for weeks? What the hell were they doing and how did they survive? We know the people of Alexandria were ill prepared for zombie in the wild. Did not like Rick’s plan, and really, what is Rick’s plan? Where are they taking them? We got 1.5 hours and don’t even know what they’re doing. The quarry seemed like the perfect place to herd up them zombies and leave 'em. And finally, if there was ever a time to cover yourself in zombie guts to become invisible to them, I’d say herding tens of thousands of them is it. Rick and Michone should have known that, but I guess in the world of TWD, Ethan Embry had to die. ---
**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2015, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-6-01-first-time-again-open-spoilers/734382/94 "2015-10-13T15:10:01Z")
March of the Walkers (sung to the tune of Rawhide) (with Daryl as Rowdy Yates and Rick as Gil Favor) \*Walkin’, walkin’, walkin’ Walkin’, walkin’, walkin’ Raw hide! Keep rollin’, rollin’, rollin’ Though the streams are swollen Keep them walkers’ rollin’ Raw hide! Through rain and wind and weather Hell-bent for leather Wishin’ my significant other was by my side. All the things I’m missin’ Good vittles, love, and kissin’ Are waiting at the end of my ride. CHORUS Move 'em on, head 'em up Head 'em up, move 'em on Move 'em on, head 'em up Raw hide Cut 'em out, ride 'em in, Ride 'em in, let 'em out, Cut 'em out, ride 'em in Raw hide! Don’t try to understand ‘em Just shoot and slash and stab ‘em Soon we’ll be living high and wide. My heart’s calculatin’ My true love will be waitin’ Be waiting at the end of my ride. Raw hide!\* ---
**Author:** ![CannyDan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cannydan/32/548_2.png) [@CannyDan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CannyDan)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2015, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-6-01-first-time-again-open-spoilers/734382/95 "2015-10-13T16:03:39Z")
> [@Shakester](#): > > What if the shed is IN the quarry WITH the zombies? Do you volunteer to go and raid it? Hardly necessary. The explosives shed would be on the perimeter and set off to the side, away from areas for staging of men and equipment, for safety reasons. And for purely practical reasons, it won’t be down inside the quarry where _explosives are routinely set off_. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2015, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-6-01-first-time-again-open-spoilers/734382/96 "2015-10-13T16:46:55Z")
I liked that some of the zombies heads were so squishy that just bumping the wall killed them. - So - they could have followed the same general plan - but literelly led them back to the cliff and herd them off - a quarry loop. ---
**Author:** ![Gothic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/839c29/32.png) [@Gothic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gothic)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2015, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-6-01-first-time-again-open-spoilers/734382/97 "2015-10-13T16:50:37Z")
I was hoping to see them drive the herd all season long, but I really loved Lonesome Dove. ---
**Author:** ![Shakester](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shakester/32/437_2.png) [@Shakester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shakester)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2015, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-6-01-first-time-again-open-spoilers/734382/98 "2015-10-13T16:58:19Z")
> [@CannyDan](#): > > Hardly necessary. The explosives shed would be on the perimeter and set off to the side, away from areas for staging of men and equipment, for safety reasons. And for purely practical reasons, it won’t be down inside the quarry where _explosives are routinely set off_. 😉 Yeah, that’s in _our_ world, where safety rules are usually observed. We’re talking _their_ world, where nobody has a clue about basic safety and people only survive because their borderline retarded plans work out much better than they would in our world. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2015, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-6-01-first-time-again-open-spoilers/734382/99 "2015-10-13T17:00:41Z")
> [@Gothic](#): > > I was hoping to see them drive the herd all season long, but I really loved Lonesome Dove. “Head 'em up, herd 'em out, Rawhide!” ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2015, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-6-01-first-time-again-open-spoilers/734382/100 "2015-10-13T17:13:55Z")
> [@simster](#): > > a quarry loop. You need to be organized and make your instructions clear. Use structured quarry language, WHILE @ZOMBIES \> 0. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-6-01-first-time-again-open-spoilers/734382.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-6-01-first-time-again-open-spoilers/734382.md?page=6)