# The Walking Dead; 6.02 "JSS" (open spoilers) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [October 19, 2015, 12:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-6-02-jss-open-spoilers/735066 "2015-10-19T00:01:48Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![TBG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c89c15/32.png) [@TBG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TBG)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2015, 10:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-6-02-jss-open-spoilers/735066/61 "2015-10-19T22:38:54Z")
Thou shalt not lie Thou shalt not steal Thou shalt not FUCK with Carol I’d also like to thank Kevin Smith for dressing up a bit this time on Talking Dead instead of his usual shorts and jersey disaster. ---
**Author:** ![msmith537](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d9b06d/32.png) [@msmith537](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/msmith537)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2015, 10:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-6-02-jss-open-spoilers/735066/62 "2015-10-19T22:54:23Z")
> [@dracoi](#): > > This is what earned it a Meh rating for me. > > I took a couple-season hiatus from the show and figured I’d give it a shot. > > But… no. The stupid, hand-wringing, emo fuck-ups who populate the post-apocalypse ruin it. Shouldn’t these folks have been eaten a long time ago? Can’t they be eaten now? Well also the fact that the people of Alexandria are so damn soft. I don’t think an actual suburb is full of people so soft. ---
**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2015, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-6-02-jss-open-spoilers/735066/63 "2015-10-19T23:17:52Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > …And then Morgan lets some of them go? Maybe it’s time for Carol to take him out-- he’s a danger to the community. Well Father Gabriel is still alive despite being much less useful than Morgan. > [@simster](#): > > Eonid is not one of the wolves - they pretty clearly showed her path from lone survivor to resident - doubtful she took judith, and she felt the only way to survive was to not do what they were doing there… She’s not one of the Wolves, but she’s not an Alexandrian either. She was completely ambivalent over the invasion; Carl’s the only person she showed any interest in. > [@John\_Mace](#): > > On _Talking Dead_, the host opined that it would have been cool if the dead Doctor’s wife (hair cut lady) had, after killing the Wolf with those scissors, looked at her son as he walked into the room and said: Are you ready for that haircut _ **NOW!!!** _ I like to imagine she was picturing the female Wolf as her late husband. 😉 It really reminded me of season one when Carol had to stake Ed, and she got so carried away Daryl had to look away. > [@CannyDan](#): > > My take was this is the “new” Carl, gentrified by the Alexandrian influence and his desire to look less like a monster in the eyes of the girl (Enid?). The old Carl would have finished the wolf in a heartbeat and looked for more. > … Every time Enid enters the picture most of the blood rushes out of Carl’s brain. It doesn’t help that Carl had to go directly from being a child to adulthood, and now is thrust back into being a teenager. None of the other teens in town have had experiences similar to his, and Enid’s had even more traumatic ones. None much happened w/ the FTW webisodes this week, but then was [this](https://www.yahoo.com/travel/man-dies-on-aer-lingus-1281133857783862.html) IRL. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2015, 12:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-6-02-jss-open-spoilers/735066/64 "2015-10-20T00:03:59Z")
> [@alphaboi867](#): > > Every time Enid enters the picture most of the blood rushes out of Carl’s brain. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Stoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stoid/32/272_2.png) [@Stoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stoid)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2015, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-6-02-jss-open-spoilers/735066/65 "2015-10-20T01:52:03Z")
> [@UltraVires](#): > > The amount of commercials are really getting annoying. I’ll bet there isn’t 30 minutes of programming in the entire hour. 42:40, including “previously on…” and credits. (I pay for cable, including premium channels, but I still watch virtually everything by downloading the stripped of commercials versions.) ---
**Author:** ![Stoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stoid/32/272_2.png) [@Stoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stoid)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2015, 2:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-6-02-jss-open-spoilers/735066/66 "2015-10-20T02:39:53Z")
> [@Wile\_E](#): > > It started off meh with all the teenage angst but then it got exciting. Carol is pretty bad-ass so I think we need to add her to the “if \_\_\_\_\_ dies we riot” list. Add her? She IS the list. I could stand anyone dying except Carol. ---
**Author:** ![Dingbang](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ac8455/32.png) [@Dingbang](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dingbang)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2015, 4:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-6-02-jss-open-spoilers/735066/67 "2015-10-20T04:01:24Z")
> [@msmith537](#): > > Well also the fact that the people of Alexandria are so damn soft. I don’t think an actual suburb is full of people so soft. Suburb resident here, all of us entirely typical. We’re not a bunch of Ricks and Carols, but I think we’d be more formidable than the Alexandria softies. Maybe nitpicky, but there was a switch on the dashboard that activated the horn on the truck? Like an on/off flip switch? That’s not how the air horn on a truck works, is it? It’s usually a pull cord overhead or the usual steering wheel push. I thought they were going to have to yank some wires under the hood to silence the horn. Seems a really weak cheat. ---
**Author:** ![BubbaDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bubbadog/32/333_2.png) [@BubbaDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BubbaDog)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2015, 1:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-6-02-jss-open-spoilers/735066/68 "2015-10-20T13:18:36Z")
> [@CannyDan](#): > > My take was this is the “new” Carl, gentrified by the Alexandrian influence and his desire to look less like a monster in the eyes of the girl (Enid?). The old Carl would have finished the wolf in a heartbeat and looked for more. > > If this episode is about “having moments”, I’d say Carl had his when the wounded wolf grabbed his gun. I’ll be interested to see if he goes back to the old “kill them first” Carl now. Without the teenage girl hormone issue in front of his face I bet he snaps back to tough guy pretty quick [QUOTE=Dingbang] Maybe nitpicky, but there was a switch on the dashboard that activated the horn on the truck? Like an on/off flip switch? That’s not how the air horn on a truck works, is it? It’s usually a pull cord overhead or the usual steering wheel push. I thought they were going to have to yank some wires under the hood to silence the horn. Seems a really weak cheat. [/Quote] It’s not unusual for truckers to add a second (much louder) air horn to their rigs. Comes in handy for when you really really want to shake up the idiot driver in front of you. I could see that wired into one of the auxiliary switches. ---
**Author:** ![Push\_You\_Down](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/push_you_down/32/9095_2.png) [@Push\_You\_Down](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Push_You_Down)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2015, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-6-02-jss-open-spoilers/735066/69 "2015-10-20T16:17:36Z")
I really want the Wolves to be like the Templars from Warriors of the Wasteland… “We are the Templars. The warriors of vengeance. We are the Templars. The high priests of death. We have been chosen to make others pay for the crime of being alive. We guarantee that all humanity, accomplices and heirs of the nuclear[zombie] holocaust, will be wiped out once and for all. That the seed of Man will be canceled forever from the face of the earth!” ---
**Author:** ![FXMastermind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fxmastermind/32/7289_2.png) [@FXMastermind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FXMastermind)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2015, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-6-02-jss-open-spoilers/735066/70 "2015-10-20T16:22:43Z")
The Wolves are the people that didn’t stay sane, and discovered vast stores of really good drugs. Then formed a new religion, based on the zombies as God’s will, and they are doing God’s work. ---
**Author:** ![FXMastermind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fxmastermind/32/7289_2.png) [@FXMastermind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FXMastermind)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2015, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-6-02-jss-open-spoilers/735066/71 "2015-10-20T16:23:52Z")
I just made that up, just now. But it actually sounds pretty good. Sometimes I surprise myself. Can’t wait to meet the leader of these batshit crazy fuckheads. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2015, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-6-02-jss-open-spoilers/735066/72 "2015-10-20T16:33:43Z")
I’ll spoiler it for you: It’s Marlon Brando ---
**Author:** ![FXMastermind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fxmastermind/32/7289_2.png) [@FXMastermind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FXMastermind)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2015, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-6-02-jss-open-spoilers/735066/73 "2015-10-20T16:49:43Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > I’ll spoiler it for you: > > It’s Marlon Brando That reminds me. How awesome would it be to see a famous person in the zombie horde? Or anywhere? Big stars could do guest cameos, and get their heads punched. It would make the series so awesome. You know in a zombie apocalypse you would have to come across some famous person, as a zombie. ---
**Author:** ![Push\_You\_Down](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/push_you_down/32/9095_2.png) [@Push\_You\_Down](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Push_You_Down)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2015, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-6-02-jss-open-spoilers/735066/74 "2015-10-20T17:42:12Z")
> [@FXMastermind](#): > > That reminds me. How awesome would it be to see a famous person in the zombie horde? Or anywhere? Big stars could do guest cameos, and get their heads punched. It would make the series so awesome. > > You know in a zombie apocalypse you would have to come across some famous person, as a zombie. Tonally that would be wrong for the show… but the problem is Zombieland already the fake out pretty fabulously with Bill Murray. Z-Nation which is a bit lighter toned is apparently having George RR Martin appear as a zombie. ---
**Author:** ![Bone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bone/32/407_2.png) [@Bone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bone)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2015, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-6-02-jss-open-spoilers/735066/75 "2015-10-20T17:44:08Z")
Alexandria would have been so screwed if not for Rick’s group. How many of the wolves were killed by someone not belonging to Rick’s group? I can only remember the person that the barber lady killed. I guess there was the guy that Aaron shot, but Rosita was with him. Anyone else? ---
**Author:** ![BubbaDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bubbadog/32/333_2.png) [@BubbaDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BubbaDog)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2015, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-6-02-jss-open-spoilers/735066/76 "2015-10-20T18:30:09Z")
> [@UltraVires](#): > > … Morgan was right beside Rick as they were all running to help the town. And _Rick and the Herd_ (BAND NAME) were also close enough to hear the gunfire. You’d think that Air horns and gunfire would get their undivided attention. I’ll be waiting to see if the writers cover that adequately. ---
**Author:** ![mistymage](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mistymage/32/459_2.png) [@mistymage](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mistymage)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2015, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-6-02-jss-open-spoilers/735066/77 "2015-10-20T18:39:03Z")
> [@FXMastermind](#): > > That reminds me. How awesome would it be to see a famous person in the zombie horde? Or anywhere? Big stars could do guest cameos, and get their heads punched. It would make the series so awesome. > > You know in a zombie apocalypse you would have to come across some famous person, as a zombie. Dawn of the Dead (2004) sort of did that. Andy was shooting zombies based on how close they looked to a celebrity. “Burt Reynolds” in his orange ambulance jacket from Cannonball Run was one and “Rosie O’Donnel” was another (they didn’t show “her” zombie. ---
**Author:** ![Tangent](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tangent/32/3098_2.png) [@Tangent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tangent)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2015, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-6-02-jss-open-spoilers/735066/78 "2015-10-20T18:49:48Z")
> [@BubbaDog](#): > > And _Rick and the Herd_ (BAND NAME) were also close enough to hear the gunfire. You’d think that Air horns and gunfire would get their undivided attention. I don’t know about ‘undivided.’ They are escorting a few thousand walkers down the road. They can’t just say “Time out–all you zombies wait here until we get back.” ---
**Author:** ![E-DUB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/e-dub/32/403_2.png) [@E-DUB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-DUB)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2015, 10:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-6-02-jss-open-spoilers/735066/79 "2015-10-20T22:14:51Z")
The famous person as zombie would work better on FTWD as it is set in L.A. Oh, and FXmastermind. That’s my theory too. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2015, 1:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-6-02-jss-open-spoilers/735066/80 "2015-10-21T01:01:31Z")
We just watched it tonight. Carl’s Main Squeeze left, and so did Morgan Two good characters that are too good to write off. How did the wolves get in, climb those damn outside buttresses? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-6-02-jss-open-spoilers/735066.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-6-02-jss-open-spoilers/735066.md?page=5)