# The Walking Dead; 6.04 "Here’s Not Here" (open spoilers)

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**Created:** [November 2, 2015, 12:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-6-04-here-s-not-here-open-spoilers/736377 "2015-11-02T00:24:08Z")\
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**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2015, 12:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-6-04-here-s-not-here-open-spoilers/736377/1 "2015-11-02T00:24:08Z")

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[QUOTE=AMC]  
A new face and setting are introduced. With all that’s gone on in the apocalypse, can people be trusted?  
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It’s a 90 minute episode tonight, and Josh Gad is on the **Talking Dead**. If Glenn does turn out to have survived somehow I predict a lot of profanity for this thread. I don’t see how they can pull that off without it looking like an Deus ex Machina, (unless he only escapes after a fatal bite or two only delaying death).

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**Author:** ![Critical1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3e96dc/32.png) [@Critical1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Critical1)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2015, 12:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-6-04-here-s-not-here-open-spoilers/736377/2 "2015-11-02T00:44:26Z")

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Glen is alive because the writers suck syphilitic Donkey ass.

I could have bought it if he had actually been knocked out cold, that at least would have been sorta kinda believable.

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2015, 1:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-6-04-here-s-not-here-open-spoilers/736377/3 "2015-11-02T01:11:24Z")

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I suspect there will be no resolution of the Glen issue. No one knows what happened to him.

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**Author:** ![E-DUB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/e-dub/32/403_2.png) [@E-DUB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-DUB)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2015, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-6-04-here-s-not-here-open-spoilers/736377/4 "2015-11-02T01:26:13Z")

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One wonders if there are any “natural immunes” to the zombie plague. Might Glen be that “one in a million” person who can be bitten and live?

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2015, 1:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-6-04-here-s-not-here-open-spoilers/736377/5 "2015-11-02T01:35:46Z")

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> [@E-DUB](#):
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> One wonders if there are any “natural immunes” to the zombie plague. Might Glen be that “one in a million” person who can be bitten and live?

Heh, I was thinking the same thing!

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**Author:** ![MacTech](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c0e974/32.png) [@MacTech](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MacTech)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2015, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-6-04-here-s-not-here-open-spoilers/736377/6 "2015-11-02T02:04:55Z")

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> [@E-DUB](#):
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> One wonders if there are any “natural immunes” to the zombie plague. Might Glen be that “one in a million” person who can be bitten and live?

So he’d be like whassisname in “Z Nation” then? As long as he doesn’t get the ability to telepathically control walkers… :smack:

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**Author:** ![MacTech](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c0e974/32.png) [@MacTech](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MacTech)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2015, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-6-04-here-s-not-here-open-spoilers/736377/7 "2015-11-02T02:07:33Z")

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Hmm, open fire in an area with dried grass and no barrier or swept-down-to-the-dirt clearing? What could go wrong? :smack:

Looks like this ep is going to be “The Morgan Show”…

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**Author:** ![Master\_Wang-Ka](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/master_wang-ka/32/3325_2.png) [@Master\_Wang-Ka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Master_Wang-Ka)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2015, 2:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-6-04-here-s-not-here-open-spoilers/736377/8 "2015-11-02T02:39:36Z")

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Million fraggin’ plot threads, major suspense, and do we get resolution? No, no, we get to find out about Morgan’s backstory.

Bastards.

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**Author:** ![MacTech](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c0e974/32.png) [@MacTech](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MacTech)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2015, 3:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-6-04-here-s-not-here-open-spoilers/736377/9 "2015-11-02T03:03:04Z")

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Yep, a filler episode, nothing more, heck, so far you could skip it as it has no effect on the plot line

What a waste of 90 minutes, and I love the character of Morgan, he just can’t sustain a solo episode for 90 minutes

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2015, 3:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-6-04-here-s-not-here-open-spoilers/736377/10 "2015-11-02T03:10:13Z")

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Ugh. I detest the Morgan character, so I’m not looking forward to _All Morgan All 90 Minutes._ Still waiting for Carol to take him out.

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**Author:** ![Jamicat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c67d28/32.png) [@Jamicat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jamicat)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2015, 3:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-6-04-here-s-not-here-open-spoilers/736377/11 "2015-11-02T03:11:11Z")

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An hour of grasshopper Morgan is too much, when there’s OTHER THINGS HAPPENING. :mad:

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**Author:** ![GrumpyBunny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bc8723/32.png) [@GrumpyBunny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrumpyBunny)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2015, 3:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-6-04-here-s-not-here-open-spoilers/736377/12 "2015-11-02T03:30:40Z")

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Well, that was a stupid 90 minutes. I like Tabitha the goat better than Morgan right now and found the cheesemaking more interesting than the backstory.

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**Author:** ![Jamicat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c67d28/32.png) [@Jamicat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jamicat)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2015, 3:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-6-04-here-s-not-here-open-spoilers/736377/13 "2015-11-02T03:31:22Z")

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Omg it was the whole thing.

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**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2015, 3:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-6-04-here-s-not-here-open-spoilers/736377/14 "2015-11-02T03:32:28Z")

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Well I just voted Hated it in the poll for the first time. Also I have a craving for a nice falafel now with feta now.

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**Author:** ![IvoryTowerDenizen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ivorytowerdenizen/32/17937_2.png) [@IvoryTowerDenizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IvoryTowerDenizen)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2015, 3:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-6-04-here-s-not-here-open-spoilers/736377/15 "2015-11-02T03:40:23Z")

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I thought it was great. I like seeing how other folks survived and thought the story was engaging.

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**Author:** ![Master\_Wang-Ka](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/master_wang-ka/32/3325_2.png) [@Master\_Wang-Ka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Master_Wang-Ka)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2015, 3:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-6-04-here-s-not-here-open-spoilers/736377/16 "2015-11-02T03:45:02Z")

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The story itself was interesting and engaging. Its placement in the overall story arc was fraggin’ infuriating. We spend three and a half hours of this season’s shows building up to an absolute CRESCENDO…

…and then we stop cold, piss away an hour and a half episode on one character doing the zen thang, and then introduce ANOTHER suspenseful plot point, while resolving NOTHING.

This is bastardry on the part of the showrunners. I do hope they’re wise enough to resolve some of these plot threads before the midseason break. Angering your viewers with unresolved plot threads has killed more popular shows than this one.

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**Author:** ![UltraVires](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/ecccb3/32.png) [@UltraVires](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UltraVires)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2015, 3:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-6-04-here-s-not-here-open-spoilers/736377/17 "2015-11-02T03:48:12Z")

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I liked it. We knew last week that this episode would be filler dealing with Morgan and wouldn’t get a Glenn resolution. As far as fillers go, it was great. I really liked Eastman; too bad he was one and done.

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**Author:** ![IvoryTowerDenizen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ivorytowerdenizen/32/17937_2.png) [@IvoryTowerDenizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IvoryTowerDenizen)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2015, 3:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-6-04-here-s-not-here-open-spoilers/736377/18 "2015-11-02T03:56:24Z")

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I wasn’t angry in the least. Found it a refreshing breather and a great chnage of pace.

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**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2015, 4:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-6-04-here-s-not-here-open-spoilers/736377/19 "2015-11-02T04:03:39Z")

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If I wasn’t already confident about Glenn, this episode would have made me so. You really couldn’t dick people around this much with a main character like Glenn and then have him die. The resolution would be very anticlimactic and totally insufficient for a Season 1 dude.

I didn’t mind the episode; I hated the placement. As far as character stuff goes, they did this one well. Their character development is usually “let’s have two characters get real mad at each other and make mean faces,” or “let’s have one character do something bizarrely inconsistent and then have the others react and we’ll call that character developmet.” So, this wasn’t bad.

Of course, Eastman would never last in this world. It’s fine to re-direct Morgan, because reasons. Most of the people left in this world are Creightons, though. Eastman would be dead in no time.

Speaking of which, couldn’t they write something so that Eastman’s death didn’t come from stupidity? He’s a master of this martial art that’s all about redirection, so he jumps in and turns his back on the threat? Come on! It would take 2 minutes to think up five alternative ways that he ends up getting bitten while saving Morgan that weren’t completely stupid.

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**Author:** ![Tangent](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tangent/32/3098_2.png) [@Tangent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tangent)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2015, 4:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-6-04-here-s-not-here-open-spoilers/736377/20 "2015-11-02T04:04:39Z")

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Waste of time. And the way Eastman got bit was soooo fucking stupid.

I wish The Walking Dead writers were half as good as they think they are.

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