# The Walking Dead; 6.07 "Heads Up" (open spoilers) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [November 23, 2015, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-6-07-heads-up-open-spoilers/738331 "2015-11-23T02:04:12Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![cmyk](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmyk/32/3353_2.png) [@cmyk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmyk)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2015, 4:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-6-07-heads-up-open-spoilers/738331/21 "2015-11-23T04:22:20Z")
I don’t know that Glenn being alive is so much lazy writing as it was manipulative. I don’t think for a moment did I believe they killed him off, but the outcry about it all was pretty extreme. And I think the producers knew it would elicit such a reaction. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2015, 7:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-6-07-heads-up-open-spoilers/738331/22 "2015-11-23T07:58:40Z")
Pretty anticlimactic with Glenn living. But I would have left Enid out there. OK, brat, you go get yourself killed. Or worse. I’m getting my ass back to Alexandria!! ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_of\_Words](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f6c823/32.png) [@Jack\_of\_Words](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_of_Words)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2015, 8:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-6-07-heads-up-open-spoilers/738331/23 "2015-11-23T08:35:26Z")
> [@randwill](#): > > After setting up a cliff hanger with Rick trapped in the RV and surrounded by a herd of zombies, they have not even bothered to show us how he escaped. I guess we are supposed to reason that, hey, he’s the main character, he just did something brave and clever to get himself out of the predicament. Use your imagination. Not ‘trapped’, and not ‘surrounded’. It was more like… > [@carnivorousplant](#): > > the damn thing wouldn’t start, zombies were approaching, he ran like hell. Yeah, that. I don’t need to see it. I have an imagination, which is not unaccustomed to exercise. ---
**Author:** ![MacTech](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c0e974/32.png) [@MacTech](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MacTech)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2015, 11:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-6-07-heads-up-open-spoilers/738331/24 "2015-11-23T11:30:18Z")
It looks like my prediction that the writers want to turn Glenn into the Kenny McCormick (or Rory Williams from NuWho) of TWD is true New rule in TWD drinking game, shout “Oh my god, they killed Glenny” and take a drink whenever Glenn gets killed ---
**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2015, 1:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-6-07-heads-up-open-spoilers/738331/25 "2015-11-23T13:17:23Z")
> [@Jack\_of\_Words](#): > > Yeah, that. I don’t need to see it. I have an imagination, which is not unaccustomed to exercise. Wow! That’s impressive. You’re like my hero or something. What are you even doing watching tv when you have an imagination!?! The rest of us - those of us without imaginations - kind of feel like bullshit is going on when the people who make up a show or write a book set up a predicament and then just have the protagonist show up later on. But we, unlike someone with your superpower, take in other people’s storytelling instead of just imagining our own. ---
**Author:** ![SykoSkotty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c0e974/32.png) [@SykoSkotty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SykoSkotty)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2015, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-6-07-heads-up-open-spoilers/738331/26 "2015-11-23T15:19:34Z")
Loved the episode. Loved the tension building between Morgan, Rick, Carol and Michonne. I’m really looking forward to seeing how Daryl, Abe and Sasha’s return plays out with the herd moving in through the broken wall. Glenn and Maggie’s reunion should be fun to watch as well. I actually thought the way Glenn survived was pretty smart. He stabbed the walkers that were trying to get at him and their corpses actually provided a barrier to protect him from the rest of the herd. ---
**Author:** ![Barkis\_is\_Willin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a183cd/32.png) [@Barkis\_is\_Willin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Barkis_is_Willin)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2015, 3:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-6-07-heads-up-open-spoilers/738331/27 "2015-11-23T15:31:22Z")
I have not watched the episode but accidentally found out Glenn’s fate on social media. And I hate it. I mean, I didn’t want to kill the character, but he was in an absolutely impossible situation. Impossible! I don’t care how you tell me he did it, he could not in any realistic way have escaped unbitten. ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_of\_Words](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f6c823/32.png) [@Jack\_of\_Words](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_of_Words)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2015, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-6-07-heads-up-open-spoilers/738331/28 "2015-11-23T15:33:04Z")
> [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](#): > > Wow! That’s impressive. You’re like my hero or something. What are you even doing watching tv when you have an imagination!?! > > The rest of us - those of us without imaginations - kind of feel like bullshit is going on when the people who make up a show or write a book set up a predicament and then just have the protagonist show up later on. But we, unlike someone with your superpower, take in other people’s storytelling instead of just imagining our own. Imagine I’d actually said what you’re insinuating…hang on, you have. That puts you in the second class of people I referenced: those with an imagination, but unaccustomed to using it. Indeed, you object to using it, it seems. You can’t even imagine taking in the storytelling of others _and_ imagining your own for the bits they didn’t waste time and effort spelling out for you. There really wasn’t a ‘predicament’. Rick was neither ‘trapped’ nor ‘surrounded’ - it’s not that hard to imagine/assume that he stepped out of the open door and legged it away from the scattered, shambling [del]horde[/del] bunch. ---
**Author:** ![IvoryTowerDenizen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ivorytowerdenizen/32/17937_2.png) [@IvoryTowerDenizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IvoryTowerDenizen)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2015, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-6-07-heads-up-open-spoilers/738331/29 "2015-11-23T15:46:09Z")
I’m pretty sure the last scene was the RV completely overrun by walkers. ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2015, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-6-07-heads-up-open-spoilers/738331/30 "2015-11-23T15:51:41Z")
> [@IvoryTowerDenizen](#): > > I’m pretty sure the last scene was the RV completely overrun by walkers. It wasn’t that many. ---
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2015, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-6-07-heads-up-open-spoilers/738331/31 "2015-11-23T16:30:22Z")
> [@IvoryTowerDenizen](#): > > I’m pretty sure the last scene was the RV completely overrun by walkers. The last scene was a massive horde on the left side of the RV approaching the road heading past it toward Alexandria. A small amount had made it as far as the road, and a few had already gone past the road/RV still heading toward Alexandria. It would be trivially easy and painfully obvious for Rick to step out the door and start hoofing it. They were not surrounding the RV, or paying any attention to the RV at all. ---
**Author:** ![IvoryTowerDenizen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ivorytowerdenizen/32/17937_2.png) [@IvoryTowerDenizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IvoryTowerDenizen)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2015, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-6-07-heads-up-open-spoilers/738331/32 "2015-11-23T16:39:36Z")
OK- thanks for clarifying. ---
**Author:** ![cmyk](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmyk/32/3353_2.png) [@cmyk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmyk)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2015, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-6-07-heads-up-open-spoilers/738331/33 "2015-11-23T16:51:09Z")
> [@SykoSkotty](#): > > Loved the episode. Loved the tension building between Morgan, Rick, Carol and Michonne. I’m really looking forward to seeing how Daryl, Abe and Sasha’s return plays out with the herd moving in through the broken wall. Glenn and Maggie’s reunion should be fun to watch as well. > > I actually thought the way Glenn survived was pretty smart. He stabbed the walkers that were trying to get at him and their corpses actually provided a barrier to protect him from the rest of the herd. Agree, that wasn’t something I’d though of to do. Scoot under the dumpster as the zombies were busy devouring what’s-his-face, then create zombie insulation all around you until they wander off and you’re out. I bought it. ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2015, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-6-07-heads-up-open-spoilers/738331/34 "2015-11-23T16:55:27Z")
I didn’t think they wandered off, i thought Enid distracted them. You could see a can rolling by behind them and them slowly turn around and go after it, that couldn’t have happened randomly. ---
**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2015, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-6-07-heads-up-open-spoilers/738331/35 "2015-11-23T17:19:04Z")
> [@EllisDee](#): > > The last scene was a massive horde on the left side of the RV approaching the road heading past it toward Alexandria. A small amount had made it as far as the road, and a few had already gone past the road/RV still heading toward Alexandria. > > It would be trivially easy and painfully obvious for Rick to step out the door and start hoofing it. > > They were not surrounding the RV, or paying any attention to the RV at all. First, that doesn’t make any sense. Why would they be ignoring the RV, since Rick just fired a bunch of handgun shots and then automatic weapons, killing a bunch of people? The walkers suddenly aren’t drawn to loud sounds and dying people? Secondly, the episode ended with shots looking out of the RV windows to the horde approaching it, and then an overhead shot of the horde approaching. See screen shots here: > **[Screencapped.net](https://screencapped.net)** > > HQ Screencap Archive It’s clear that the horde would prevent any easy exit from the passenger side. I don’t honestly remember if there was a driver side door on this RV, but most don’t have one, right? Perhaps he broke out a driver’s side window or maybe there was a roof escape. However, if the implication wasn’t supposed to be that Rick was in peril, why have the shots from inside the RV looking at the approaching horde outside, and then go to the expense of the overhead shot to indicate just how many walkers there were around the RV? What is the storytelling there, and why set all that up just to say “Well, it’s obvious that he would get out of there, and just how he did it”? It makes no sense. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2015, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-6-07-heads-up-open-spoilers/738331/36 "2015-11-23T17:51:22Z")
I they cut thirty seconds of Rick leaving the RV, they have another thirty seconds to sell advertising. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![MeanJoe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/meanjoe/32/5693_2.png) [@MeanJoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MeanJoe)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2015, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-6-07-heads-up-open-spoilers/738331/37 "2015-11-23T18:08:03Z")
> [@IvoryTowerDenizen](#): > > I’m pretty sure the last scene was the RV completely overrun by walkers. It was a few walkers beginning to come out of the tree line towards the R.V. Describing it as a “horde” or “surrounded” is dramatic license to say the least. ---
**Author:** ![IvoryTowerDenizen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ivorytowerdenizen/32/17937_2.png) [@IvoryTowerDenizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IvoryTowerDenizen)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2015, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-6-07-heads-up-open-spoilers/738331/38 "2015-11-23T18:20:43Z")
> [@MeanJoe](#): > > It was a few walkers beginning to come out of the tree line towards the R.V. Describing it as a “horde” or “surrounded” is dramatic license to say the least. Yes, and someone corrected me and I thanked them for clarifying my faulty memory. ---
**Author:** ![MeanJoe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/meanjoe/32/5693_2.png) [@MeanJoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MeanJoe)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2015, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-6-07-heads-up-open-spoilers/738331/39 "2015-11-23T19:00:44Z")
> [@IvoryTowerDenizen](#): > > Yes, and someone corrected me and I thanked them for clarifying my faulty memory. My apologies. I had started my reply and got distracted with work. Came back, hit submit, and missed the other responses. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2015, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-6-07-heads-up-open-spoilers/738331/40 "2015-11-23T19:03:05Z")
> [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](#): > > Wow! That’s impressive. You’re like my hero or something. What are you even doing watching tv when you have an imagination!?! > > The rest of us - those of us without imaginations - kind of feel like bullshit is going on when the people who make up a show or write a book set up a predicament and then just have the protagonist show up later on. But we, unlike someone with your superpower, take in other people’s storytelling instead of just imagining our own. Don’t watch any early Jean-Luc Godard films! 😛 [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-6-07-heads-up-open-spoilers/738331.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-6-07-heads-up-open-spoilers/738331.md?page=3)