# The Walking Dead; 6.09 "No Way Out" (open spoilers)

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [February 14, 2016, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-6-09-no-way-out-open-spoilers/746136 "2016-02-14T18:15:31Z")\
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**Author:** ![Omar\_Little](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omar_little/32/269_2.png) [@Omar\_Little](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omar_Little)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2016, 2:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-6-09-no-way-out-open-spoilers/746136/21 "2016-02-15T14:19:20Z")

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The best and most unexpected part of the episode was Daryl taking out Negan’s gang with the rocket launcher.

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**Author:** ![GrumpyBunny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bc8723/32.png) [@GrumpyBunny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrumpyBunny)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2016, 2:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-6-09-no-way-out-open-spoilers/746136/22 "2016-02-15T14:26:41Z")

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Great episode and reminds me why I watch the show in the first place.

> [@Stoid](#):
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> Just started watching. Stopped to come over here and call BULLSHIT on Rick handing over his precious baby girl to Reverend Useless Asshat to protect in a swarm of zombies. Bullshitbullshitbullshit.

I had thought that, too, but I think that both Gabriel and Rick knew that if Gabriel did anything to harm Judith or place her in (more) harm’s way, Rick would take him out in a very protracted and very painful way.

> [@Omar\_Little](#):
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> The best and most unexpected part of the episode was Daryl taking out Negan’s gang with the rocket launcher.

Agreed; that was great and I did not see it coming.

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**Author:** ![gytalf2000](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ac91a4/32.png) [@gytalf2000](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gytalf2000)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2016, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-6-09-no-way-out-open-spoilers/746136/23 "2016-02-15T14:39:18Z")

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> [@Omar\_Little](#):
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> The best and most unexpected part of the episode was Daryl taking out Negan’s gang with the rocket launcher.

That was a fantastic scene! Loved it!

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**Post date:** [February 15, 2016, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-6-09-no-way-out-open-spoilers/746136/24 "2016-02-15T14:47:15Z")

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> [@Omar\_Little](#):
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> The best and most unexpected part of the episode was Daryl taking out Negan’s gang with the rocket launcher.

I kind of saw it coming, and had my fingers crossed that Daryl was going to do exactly what he did! It was a great moment in Walking Dead…totally cartoonish, and absolutely satisfying!

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**Author:** ![Biffster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biffster/32/339_2.png) [@Biffster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffster)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2016, 3:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-6-09-no-way-out-open-spoilers/746136/25 "2016-02-15T15:03:38Z")

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> [@Declan](#):
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> Well at least they can recycle the governors eye patch.
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> I find it kinda neat, that they are coming out with talking saul.
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> Declan

SO looking forward to tonight! Better Call Saul is the one series I can honestly say you really don’t know what’s coming next.

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**Author:** ![Quimby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/22d042/32.png) [@Quimby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quimby)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2016, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-6-09-no-way-out-open-spoilers/746136/26 "2016-02-15T15:06:22Z")

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> [@Superdude](#):
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> Did they censor out something towards the beginning? One of the girls says “we have one gun,” and it seemed like they cut out her next line. And it looked like they blurred her mouth, too, so I couldn’t read her lips.

The opening scene of the episode was actually an edited version of the “bonus scene” that they showed after the last finale. I had missed it at that time and luckily turned on AMC a few minutes early and they replayed it just before last night’s episode had started. Kind of crapy of them to not play it in full in the actual episode and just assume everyone saw it already.

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**Post date:** [February 15, 2016, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-6-09-no-way-out-open-spoilers/746136/27 "2016-02-15T15:19:34Z")

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They killed off almost all the people that you would guess as expendable or dead weight. I don’t think it’s particularly surprising who died but it was an action-filled and pretty entertaining episode.

The Glenn save was silly, but I wonder if they’re setting us up with a bunch of weak saves of his life before they kill him unexpectedly. It would be funny to build him up as un-killable then just out of nowhere he dies.

Overall, Rick’s core group ended the episode with most of their immediate danger resolved, so I suppose we have to meet the new antagonists soon. The resolutions were a little too unbelievable for me but I think it was still entertaining and a decent episode.

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**Author:** ![randwill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/a3d4f5/32.png) [@randwill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/randwill)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2016, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-6-09-no-way-out-open-spoilers/746136/28 "2016-02-15T15:41:04Z")

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> [@Quimby](#):
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> The opening scene of the episode was actually an edited version of the “bonus scene” that they showed after the last finale. I had missed it at that time and luckily turned on AMC a few minutes early and they replayed it just before last night’s episode had started. Kind of crapy of them to not play it in full in the actual episode and just assume everyone saw it already.

My memory is just the opposite. They showed an abbreviated version of the scene during the “previously on TWD” segment and the complete scene played out within the episode proper.

During the “In Memoriam” on Talking Dead they showed a brief clip of Sam and Mom just prior to their deaths and you could see that this stuff was shot in normal daylight. So it became ‘night’ because whoever does the color timing was told to make it blue at a certain point with little regard for how night actually falls.

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**Post date:** [February 15, 2016, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-6-09-no-way-out-open-spoilers/746136/29 "2016-02-15T15:49:39Z")

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> [@randwill](#):
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> My memory is just the opposite. They showed an abbreviated version of the scene during the “previously on TWD” segment and the complete scene played out within the episode proper.

The beginning of the episode proper was an abbreviated version of the “sneak preview” scene we saw at the end of the mid-season finale.

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**Author:** ![msmith537](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d9b06d/32.png) [@msmith537](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/msmith537)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2016, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-6-09-no-way-out-open-spoilers/746136/30 "2016-02-15T15:53:15Z")

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I’m a little confused about how the sun went down during the commercial break. How long did it take Rick and his crew to barely make it through the edge of town?  
Great episode, but to be honest, the fact that Rick and friends can dispatch zombies with such ease (I timed it. After Carl got shot, Rick killed a dozen zombies in as many second) kind of makes every other plan they come up with needlessly complex, reckless and stupid.

Every plan should be "throw on a bunch of thick clothes that zombies can’t bite through, lead them into a bottleneck and spend the next few hours chopping them with machetes, axes and Michione’s Katana.

> [@gytalf2000](#):
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> That was a fantastic scene! Loved it!

Chew on THAT!

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2016, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-6-09-no-way-out-open-spoilers/746136/31 "2016-02-15T16:23:03Z")

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> [@Quimby](#):
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> The opening scene of the episode was actually an edited version of the “bonus scene” that they showed after the last finale. I had missed it at that time and luckily turned on AMC a few minutes early and they replayed it just before last night’s episode had started. Kind of crapy of them to not play it in full in the actual episode and just assume everyone saw it already.

Yeah, that was a bit disorienting. I wasn’t sure when I was watching the actual show or when I was watching a preview or recap.

But I got over it after Daryl’s RPG took out the biker gang!! 🙂

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**Author:** ![Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eyebrows_0f_doom/32/3119_2.png) [@Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eyebrows_0f_Doom)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2016, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-6-09-no-way-out-open-spoilers/746136/32 "2016-02-15T17:00:32Z")

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The un-killability of the main group is just silly at this point.

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**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2016, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-6-09-no-way-out-open-spoilers/746136/33 "2016-02-15T17:17:20Z")

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Define 'main group. " It has only been a year (the last midseason premiere) since Tyreese died, just on the heels of Beth.

I’m not bothered by the tendency of the established characters to live longer. I watch for the characters, because I like Michonne and Daryl and Carol and want to watch their adventures. If they had eliminated everyone from the first two seasons, I’d have lost interest long ago.

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**Author:** ![Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eyebrows_0f_doom/32/3119_2.png) [@Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eyebrows_0f_Doom)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2016, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-6-09-no-way-out-open-spoilers/746136/34 "2016-02-15T17:33:04Z")

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Main group = Rick, Carl, Glenn, Maggie, Carol, Daryl & Michonne. I thought Carl getting shot in the head was a pretty ballsy move - but then he was fine. :rolleyes: For anyone else on this show, getting shot in the face means an immediate death. And Oh look, a hoard of zombies are closing in on Glenn, except we just did this scenario a few episodes back so he’s clearly not really in danger this time, ah there we go he’s safe.

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**Author:** ![Baker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bb73d2/32.png) [@Baker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baker)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2016, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-6-09-no-way-out-open-spoilers/746136/35 "2016-02-15T17:52:19Z")

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I didn’t see the episdoe. Can someone tell me, spoilering if necessary, what “organ” was Carl shot in? Is he dead?

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**Author:** ![Grsz11](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Grsz11](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grsz11)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2016, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-6-09-no-way-out-open-spoilers/746136/36 "2016-02-15T18:03:36Z")

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> [@Baker](#):
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> I didn’t see the episdoe. Can someone tell me, spoilering if necessary, what “organ” was Carl shot in? Is he dead?

The eye.

No.

The actions surrounding it are straight out of the comics, more or less.

This has been spoiled for awhile, as Chandler Riggs was seen on set with an eye patch.

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**Author:** ![Grsz11](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Grsz11](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grsz11)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2016, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-6-09-no-way-out-open-spoilers/746136/37 "2016-02-15T18:06:01Z")

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> [@Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](#):
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> Main group = Rick, Carl, Glenn, Maggie, Carol, Daryl & Michonne. I thought Carl getting shot in the head was a pretty ballsy move - but then he was fine. :rolleyes: For anyone else on this show, getting shot in the face means an immediate death. And Oh look, a hoard of zombies are closing in on Glenn, except we just did this scenario a few episodes back so he’s clearly not really in danger this time, ah there we go he’s safe.

That’s a cheap out…this is how you define main group because they are the ones left. What about main characters from the beginning that have been killed…Lori, Dale, Shane, Andrea.

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**Post date:** [February 15, 2016, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-6-09-no-way-out-open-spoilers/746136/38 "2016-02-15T18:09:47Z")

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The only individuals with genuine plot armor, I’d think, would be Rick and Carl.

Beyond that, it’s anyone’s guess; in the comics, Carol died back at the prison, but Andrea’s still alive and kicking, and Daryl never even existed.

That being said, I did notice that whatserface the medic was awfully calm and collected while treating a gunshot wound to the eye. Kind of a departure from her earlier jittery demeanor.

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**Post date:** [February 15, 2016, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-6-09-no-way-out-open-spoilers/746136/39 "2016-02-15T18:13:14Z")

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> [@Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](#):
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> The un-killability of the main group is just silly at this point.

> [@Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](#):
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> Main group = Rick, Carl, Glenn, Maggie, Carol, Daryl & Michonne.

But that’s pretty arbitrary.  
Why not Dale or Hershel or Shane or Merle or Lori or Andrea or anyone else I’m not thinking of?  
Are Abe and his group part of the main group or are they still disposable (I could probable go either way on them)?

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> I thought Carl getting shot in the head was a pretty ballsy move - but then he was fine. :rolleyes:

I’ve never read the comics, but in Talking Dead they said that came directly out of the books, right down to exactly how the bullet hit and what the wound looked like.

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**Post date:** [February 15, 2016, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-6-09-no-way-out-open-spoilers/746136/40 "2016-02-15T18:31:22Z")

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> [@Master\_Wang-Ka](#):
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> That being said, I did notice that whatserface the medic was awfully calm and collected while treating a gunshot wound to the eye. Kind of a departure from her earlier jittery demeanor.

Sort of a stock idea though, the goofy, useless person becomes calm and professional during a crisis.

“Chew on that” was definitely one of the high points of the series.

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