# The Walking Dead; 6.09 "No Way Out" (open spoilers) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [February 14, 2016, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-6-09-no-way-out-open-spoilers/746136 "2016-02-14T18:15:31Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2016, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-6-09-no-way-out-open-spoilers/746136/61 "2016-02-16T15:45:51Z")
> [@Omar\_Little](#): > > The best and most unexpected part of the episode was Daryl taking out Negan’s gang with the rocket launcher. Definitely unexpected. They were building the leader of the biker gang up to be a real character, so I expected that we would be seeing a lot of him moving forward. Very surprised when he suddenly exploded. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2016, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-6-09-no-way-out-open-spoilers/746136/62 "2016-02-16T15:57:20Z")
> [@Fiveyearlurker](#): > > Definitely unexpected. They were building the leader of the biker gang up to be a real character, so I expected that we would be seeing a lot of him moving forward. Very surprised when he suddenly exploded. I’m sure he was, too. ---
**Author:** ![MoonMoon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/moonmoon/32/2959_2.png) [@MoonMoon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MoonMoon)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2016, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-6-09-no-way-out-open-spoilers/746136/63 "2016-02-16T16:03:35Z")
> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#): > > I’m sure he was, too. I don’t know, his flaming head on the road looked pretty blasé about the whole thing. ---
**Author:** ![MeanJoe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/meanjoe/32/5693_2.png) [@MeanJoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MeanJoe)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2016, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-6-09-no-way-out-open-spoilers/746136/64 "2016-02-16T17:27:41Z")
Really good episode. As others have pointed out, the Glenn scene seemed a bit forced with another last-second miracle save. I felt the scene with Sam and his mom was excellent. The zombies swarming on each of them had a real comic book feel to it, almost like you could see the scenes where the zombies were all around them biting as an illustrated panel in a comic book. What really struck me though was the reaction of Rick, Carl, and Michonne. They knew their survival depended to an extent upon really not making a sound while watching a child and mother be devoured right beside them. I really didn’t care for the final Rick/Carl scene. It seemed a bit over-wrought and almost like an exaggeration of the “CORAL” pronunciations/memes/jokes that are around on the internet. ---
**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2016, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-6-09-no-way-out-open-spoilers/746136/65 "2016-02-16T17:28:29Z")
> [@Critical1](#): > > Except the final thing the wolf did before getting his ass eaten was to save the nurse, for no reason as he was already shot. > > even after thinking it over a bit this was still a good episode, so regression to the mean and all that next week should suck balls. (I really wish they could keep up this level of writing throughout) A psychopath needs someone living to lie to. And this Wolf (all of the Wolves?) is greedy. He wants everything someone else has and he wants to kill everyone else. Morgan tried to change him but Morgan doesn’t have the years of training that the Cheesemaker had. The Doc was afraid to challenge him but she did try. He did mention something about “changing”. Was he referring to his changing or hers??? Or was he lying again? Maybe he wanted to give her hope that he could/would change? Either way, Alexandria got their doctor back and it appears that the doctor has gotten over her fear of surgery/blood/blunt force trauma. Good times. ---
**Author:** ![Bone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bone/32/407_2.png) [@Bone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bone)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2016, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-6-09-no-way-out-open-spoilers/746136/66 "2016-02-16T17:46:14Z")
Now that Carl has been shot in the face, does that make him immune to zombification 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2016, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-6-09-no-way-out-open-spoilers/746136/67 "2016-02-16T18:21:20Z")
> [@doorhinge](#): > > A psychopath needs someone living to lie to. Very good. ---
**Author:** ![marshmallow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/df705f/32.png) [@marshmallow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/marshmallow)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2016, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-6-09-no-way-out-open-spoilers/746136/68 "2016-02-16T19:35:08Z")
I liked Gabriel’s line, “God has saved our town, because he’s given us the courage to save it ourselves.” Guess if you throw enough glurgey philosophical musings at the wall something will stick eventually. During the Glenn-is-alive twist I think I predicted that he would die saving Maggie, so when he was pinned against the wall I thought that was it. But no, this guy is lucky as the day is long. In a world of blood and guts I was most repulsed by wolf dude’s dirty teeth. > [@MeanJoe](#): > > I really didn’t care for the final Rick/Carl scene. It seemed a bit over-wrought and almost like an exaggeration of the “CORAL” pronunciations/memes/jokes that are around on the internet. This time it was Rick who should’ve stayed in the house. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2016, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-6-09-no-way-out-open-spoilers/746136/69 "2016-02-16T19:45:33Z")
> [@marshmallow](#): > > During the Glenn-is-alive twist I think I predicted that he would die saving Maggie, so when he was pinned against the wall I thought that was it. But no, this guy is lucky as the day is long. Heh. I predicted Maggie would die saving Glenn. Might still happen! ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2016, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-6-09-no-way-out-open-spoilers/746136/70 "2016-02-16T19:52:05Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > Heh. I predicted Maggie would die saving Glenn. Might still happen! Perhaps they will both die saving each other. :dubious: ---
**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2016, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-6-09-no-way-out-open-spoilers/746136/71 "2016-02-16T19:52:42Z")
> [@marshmallow](#): > > I liked Gabriel’s line, “God has saved our town, because he’s given us the courage to save it ourselves.” Guess if you throw enough glurgey philosophical musings at the wall something will stick eventually. The first half of Gabriel’s line – “God has saved out town” – filled me with rage . Because God wasn’t doing shit. Rick, Morgan, Daryl, Carol, Abraham, et all, were saving the the town. They were risking their lives (and I’m sure more Alexandrians died than we saw) to protect the sound. Then came the dramatic pause, and afterward “…because he has ;given us the courage to save it ourselves!” made me overflow with rage. Because if God exists in the Walking Dead universe, he is pretty clearly a menace to mankind. _Who else has suspended the laws of physics so that the dead and rise and eat the living?_ I don’t mean this as a generic anti-religious screed. I just can’t see how anyone in the Walking Dead verse can believe in a beneficient deity without being an idiot, any more than anybody can live in the Godzilla universe without believing in kaiju. There’s so much evidence that believing the contrary is perverse. ---
**Author:** ![Soylent\_Juicy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/82dd89/32.png) [@Soylent\_Juicy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Soylent_Juicy)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2016, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-6-09-no-way-out-open-spoilers/746136/72 "2016-02-16T20:21:00Z")
Can somebody with medical knowledge please explain to me how Carl survived a bullet through the eye? ---
**Author:** ![MoonMoon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/moonmoon/32/2959_2.png) [@MoonMoon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MoonMoon)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2016, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-6-09-no-way-out-open-spoilers/746136/73 "2016-02-16T20:24:50Z")
> [@Soylent\_Juicy](#): > > Can somebody with medical knowledge please explain to me how Carl survived a bullet through the eye? Apparently, as they’re fond of doing, they explained it on The Talking Dead. It glanced off his cheekbone and bone fragments flew into his eye. The bullet didn’t penetrate his skull. ---
**Author:** ![Grsz11](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Grsz11](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grsz11)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2016, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-6-09-no-way-out-open-spoilers/746136/74 "2016-02-16T20:34:21Z")
> [@Soylent\_Juicy](#): > > Can somebody with medical knowledge please explain to me how Carl survived a bullet through the eye? The same way The Governor survived a shard of glass through his. ---
**Author:** ![GrumpyBunny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bc8723/32.png) [@GrumpyBunny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrumpyBunny)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2016, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-6-09-no-way-out-open-spoilers/746136/75 "2016-02-16T20:40:46Z")
> [@Master\_Wang-Ka](#): > > That being said, I did notice that whatserface the medic was awfully calm and collected while treating a gunshot wound to the eye. Kind of a departure from her earlier jittery demeanor. Well, hell, she’d been held hostage by the wolf and a giant horde of zombies just overran her safe home. At some point, she was going to either sit in a corner and cry, or she was going to hit some level of overriding the fear. Pretty much like Eugene and Gabriel did. ---
**Author:** ![GrumpyBunny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bc8723/32.png) [@GrumpyBunny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrumpyBunny)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2016, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-6-09-no-way-out-open-spoilers/746136/76 "2016-02-16T20:47:33Z")
> [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](#): > > The first half of Gabriel’s line – “God has saved out town” – filled me with rage . Because God wasn’t doing shit. Rick, Morgan, Daryl, Carol, Abraham, et all, were saving the the town. They were risking their lives (and I’m sure more Alexandrians died than we saw) to protect the sound. > > Then came the dramatic pause, and afterward “…because he has ;given us the courage to save it ourselves!” made me overflow with rage. Because if God exists in the Walking Dead universe, he is pretty clearly a menace to mankind. _Who else has suspended the laws of physics so that the dead and rise and eat the living?_ Yeah, I’ve tried to parse out the implications of being a believer in God in the TWD universe. I couldn’t do it. If there were a god in that world, he’d have a lot of explaining to do. ---
**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2016, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-6-09-no-way-out-open-spoilers/746136/77 "2016-02-16T20:57:25Z")
> [@GrumpyBunny](#): > > Yeah, I’ve tried to parse out the implications of being a believer in God in the TWD universe. I couldn’t do it. > > If there were a god in that world, he’d have a lot of explaining to do. SHE’D have a lot of explaining to do. Only she wouldn’t. How would you make her? Why would she bother? Anyway, the answer to the question “Glod? Why did you command the dead to rise and eat the living, and every time we reach a position of seeming stability and safety, sabotage our efforts in increasingnly cruel ways?” is obviously [“You guys are making too much damn noise.”](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NdPG3JaQssQ) ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2016, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-6-09-no-way-out-open-spoilers/746136/78 "2016-02-16T21:09:19Z")
Late to the party as usual, so I’ll just post… Loved Darryl taking out Negan’s group. I’d forgotten about the RPG. (Mrs. L.A. hadn’t.) Negan’s guy reminded me a bit of Gary Oldman. Who was in the car that was in the background just before they got blown up? Was it a clue, or was it just one of those times the camera catches something that’s not supposed to be there? I liked the rest of the episode. It was good to see Gabriel and Eugene get over their fears and get to swinging sharp things. I did roll my eyes at yet another miraculous escape by Glenn. I understand why Sam froze when he did. (Kind of hard not to, since they did the voiceover thing.) I just wish his end would have been more… something. Porch Dick, Jr. wasn’t really on my radar. I knew he was there, I knew he was going to shoot out **Coral!**'s eye, but I didn’t expect him to take the shot there. I expected him to target Carl at some other point. And the Lake O Fire seems a little problematic to me. If a zombie trips and falls into the water, it’s not on fire anymore. Then you have a crispy biter that still bites. We just have to take it on faith that all of the zombies that went into the pond were killed. Overall, good episode. Especially the beginning. ---
**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2016, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-6-09-no-way-out-open-spoilers/746136/79 "2016-02-16T21:09:54Z")
> [@Bone](#): > > Now that Carl has been shot in the face, does that make him immune to zombification 🙂 We’ll just have to keep an eye out for any changes. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2016, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-6-09-no-way-out-open-spoilers/746136/80 "2016-02-16T21:16:42Z")
> [@doorhinge](#): > > We’ll just have to keep an eye out for any changes. 😃 That was very cornea. and yes - I SAW what you did there. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-6-09-no-way-out-open-spoilers/746136.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-6-09-no-way-out-open-spoilers/746136.md?page=5)