# The Walking Dead; 6.09 "No Way Out" (open spoilers) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [February 14, 2016, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-6-09-no-way-out-open-spoilers/746136 "2016-02-14T18:15:31Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2016, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-6-09-no-way-out-open-spoilers/746136/81 "2016-02-16T21:20:59Z")
> [@Johnny\_L.A](#): > > …And the Lake O Fire seems a little problematic to me. If a zombie trips and falls into the water, it’s not on fire anymore. Then you have a crispy biter that still bites. We just have to take it on faith that all of the zombies that went into the pond were killed. > > Overall, good episode. Especially the beginning. (post shortened) Yes, fire is not the way to deal with walkers. It didn’t kill them all in Hotlanta and it wouldn’t kill them all in Alexandria. I assume that all of the walkers headed for the Lake O Fire which allowed the trapped Alexandrians to leave their hiding places and join in the skull splitting. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2016, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-6-09-no-way-out-open-spoilers/746136/82 "2016-02-16T21:22:11Z")
> [@simster](#): > > That was very cornea. “He who would pun would pick a pocket”. -Dr. Samuel Johnson. ---
**Author:** ![Soylent\_Juicy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/82dd89/32.png) [@Soylent\_Juicy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Soylent_Juicy)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2016, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-6-09-no-way-out-open-spoilers/746136/83 "2016-02-16T21:25:16Z")
> [@MoonMoon](#): > > Apparently, as they’re fond of doing, they explained it on The Talking Dead. It glanced off his cheekbone and bone fragments flew into his eye. The bullet didn’t penetrate his skull. Ah, thank you. I thought he was shot right through the eye. Also: when they set the lake on fire to lure the zombies did they not just contaminate their main water supply? They’ll have to GTFO Alexandria now just to find fresh water, won’t they? ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2016, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-6-09-no-way-out-open-spoilers/746136/84 "2016-02-16T21:36:25Z")
> [@Soylent\_Juicy](#): > > Also: when they set the lake on fire to lure the zombies did they not just contaminate their main water supply? They’ll have to GTFO Alexandria now just to find fresh water, won’t they? I assumed there’s a water tower somewhere that supplies the community’s water, and which is replenished by means of a pump powered by the community’s solar array. Planned communities often have decorative ponds/lakes, and do not take household water from them. ---
**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2016, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-6-09-no-way-out-open-spoilers/746136/85 "2016-02-17T00:49:16Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > Heh. I predicted Maggie would die saving Glenn. Might still happen! Is it wrong that I kinda want Maggie to have a late term miscarriage so we can see if the fetus reanimates instead her? ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2016, 3:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-6-09-no-way-out-open-spoilers/746136/86 "2016-02-17T03:08:41Z")
> [@alphaboi867](#): > > Is it wrong that I kinda want Maggie to have a late term miscarriage so we can see if the fetus reanimates instead her? Yes. ---
**Author:** ![Einstein\_was\_a\_Hippie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e99b99/32.png) [@Einstein\_was\_a\_Hippie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Einstein_was_a_Hippie)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2016, 4:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-6-09-no-way-out-open-spoilers/746136/87 "2016-02-17T04:27:16Z")
This was definitely one of the best episodes of the entire series. I have a joke for you: What is the perfect get well gift for Carl? An iPad. Get it? ---
**Author:** ![Cinnamon\_Imp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/58956e/32.png) [@Cinnamon\_Imp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cinnamon_Imp)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2016, 7:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-6-09-no-way-out-open-spoilers/746136/88 "2016-02-17T07:12:51Z")
> [@alphaboi867](#): > > Is it wrong that I kinda want Maggie to have a late term miscarriage so we can see if the fetus reanimates instead her? Yes. ---
**Author:** ![Shakester](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shakester/32/437_2.png) [@Shakester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shakester)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2016, 9:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-6-09-no-way-out-open-spoilers/746136/89 "2016-02-17T09:34:36Z")
> [@alphaboi867](#): > > Is it wrong that I kinda want Maggie to have a late term miscarriage so we can see if the fetus reanimates instead her? Yes. Also, _inside_, not “instead”. Also, _foetus_, but that might be a Commonwealth English thing. ---
**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2016, 2:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-6-09-no-way-out-open-spoilers/746136/90 "2016-02-17T14:41:39Z")
> [@alphaboi867](#): > > Is it wrong that I kinda want Maggie to have a late term miscarriage so we can see if the fetus reanimates instead her? Yes. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2016, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-6-09-no-way-out-open-spoilers/746136/91 "2016-02-17T15:35:01Z")
> [@alphaboi867](#): > > Is it wrong that I kinda want Maggie to have a late term miscarriage so we can see if the fetus reanimates instead her? Yes, but only because\* Z Nation \*did something like this already and TWD’s version is likely to be inferior. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2016, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-6-09-no-way-out-open-spoilers/746136/92 "2016-02-17T15:36:55Z")
> [@Shakester](#): > > Also, _foetus_, but that might be a Commonwealth English thing. I believe it is. I all most always see [fetus.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fetus) ---
**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2016, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-6-09-no-way-out-open-spoilers/746136/93 "2016-02-17T18:57:53Z")
> [@doorhinge](#): > > (post shortened) > > Yes, fire is not the way to deal with walkers. It didn’t kill them all in Hotlanta and it wouldn’t kill them all in Alexandria. The aim wasn’t to kill them all. The aim was to draw them away. The show has long since established that walkers are pyrotropic to the point of “willingly” walking into an inferno. By setting the lake aflame, Daryl was able to thin the walkers’ numbers sufficiently that the defenders were able to defeat them. ---
**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2016, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-6-09-no-way-out-open-spoilers/746136/94 "2016-02-18T17:44:05Z")
> [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](#): > > The aim wasn’t to kill them all. The aim was to draw them away. The show has long since established that walkers are pyrotropic to the point of “willingly” walking into an inferno. By setting the lake aflame, Daryl was able to thin the walkers’ numbers sufficiently that the defenders were able to defeat them. In the scene were Glenn joins Daryl in the gas truck (approx. 44 minutes? in), Glenn says, “We can lead some of them away but they’re scattered”. Daryl responds, “Nah. Get 'em all together. Won’t have to lead 'em away”. At which point Daryl signals Abe Ford, Enid, Sasha, and Maggie by pounding three times on the truck’s roof. A pond full of gasoline and an RPG later - WHOOOSH - instant walker attractant. But the flames would have only burned the walkers and the water would have snuffed the flames. Daryl’s plan was to draw the walkers away from the trapped defenders, and from those trapped in Alexandria homes and hiding places. After Rick’s group sees the pond burst into flame, pauses a moment to admire the pretty flames, Rick yells, “Go get 'em!” and the brain splitting begins in earnest. ---
**Author:** ![duality72](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/duality72/32/3910_2.png) [@duality72](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/duality72)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2016, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-6-09-no-way-out-open-spoilers/746136/95 "2016-02-18T18:17:16Z")
Pretty good episode. Psycho-wolf turning into “see, I’m not such a bad guy” was disappointing. My main gripe, though, would be Rick being monumentally stupid yet again and, not only does he not pay any price for it, through the magic of bad writing it morphs into a positive development. At Carl’s bedside, he should have been thinking, “Holy fuck, I can’t believe I charged into the middle of a horde of zombies all alone just like I tell everyone else not to do. I’m insanely lucky to be alive and should beg the forgiveness of everyone who put their life in danger to save me.” Instead, it’s, “Wow, we really came together last night, thanks in part to my awesome leadership. I really can build a working community out of this.” :smack: ---
**Author:** ![Grsz11](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Grsz11](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grsz11)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2016, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-6-09-no-way-out-open-spoilers/746136/96 "2016-02-18T21:29:07Z")
> [@duality72](#): > > Pretty good episode. Psycho-wolf turning into “see, I’m not such a bad guy” was disappointing. My main gripe, though, would be Rick being monumentally stupid yet again and, not only does he not pay any price for it, through the magic of bad writing it morphs into a positive development. At Carl’s bedside, he should have been thinking, “Holy fuck, I can’t believe I charged into the middle of a horde of zombies all alone just like I tell everyone else not to do. I’m insanely lucky to be alive and should beg the forgiveness of everyone who put their life in danger to save me.” Instead, it’s, “Wow, we really came together last night, thanks in part to my awesome leadership. I really can build a working community out of this.” :smack: Rich had never been smart, nor has he been a particularly good leader. On the other hand, he has slowly become the mentality he fought back against in Shane. That’s what they get for killing every moral compass. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2016, 12:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-6-09-no-way-out-open-spoilers/746136/97 "2016-02-19T00:34:54Z")
> [@Grsz11](#): > > That’s what they get for killing every moral compass. The Moral Compasses aren’t killed off by Rick’s group, they fall prey to various bad guys, zombies, and Acts of G-d. I believe that is more of a warning against becoming a Moral Compass than anything else. :dubious: ---
**Author:** ![Rigamarole](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/77aa72/32.png) [@Rigamarole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rigamarole)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2016, 10:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-6-09-no-way-out-open-spoilers/746136/98 "2016-02-19T10:33:05Z")
> [@Soylent\_Juicy](#): > > Can somebody with medical knowledge please explain to me how Carl survived a bullet through the eye? > [@MoonMoon](#): > > Apparently, as they’re fond of doing, they explained it on The Talking Dead. It glanced off his cheekbone and bone fragments flew into his eye. The bullet didn’t penetrate his skull. Although I thought getting shot in the eye and living seemed pretty damn unlikely (due to the brain being right behind it), I’m sure it’s happened to someone, somewhere before and I can accept that fanwank I suppose (or is TTD considered an “official” outside source of info not presented on the show?). But on top of that, I thought it a bit silly that his reaction was to meekly say “Dad?” before apparently passing out, rather than screaming “AAAGGGGHHFGH FUCK, MY EYE!” which I think is what most people would do since it would certainly hurt like a motherfucker. Of course, TV/movies do this all the time when someone sustains a catastrophic, sometimes mortal injury and responds with a very placid reaction inconsistent with the extreme pain they’d be in if it were real. Is there a trope for that? ---
**Author:** ![Shakester](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shakester/32/437_2.png) [@Shakester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shakester)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2016, 12:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-6-09-no-way-out-open-spoilers/746136/99 "2016-02-19T12:21:47Z")
> [@Rigamarole](#): > > Although I thought getting shot in the eye and living seemed pretty damn unlikely (due to the brain being right behind it), I’m sure it’s happened to someone, somewhere before and I can accept that fanwank I suppose (or is TTD considered an “official” outside source of info not presented on the show?). But on top of that, I thought it a bit silly that his reaction was to meekly say “Dad?” before apparently passing out, rather than screaming “AAAGGGGHHFGH FUCK, MY EYE!” which I think is what most people would do since it would certainly hurt like a motherfucker. > > Of course, TV/movies do this all the time when someone sustains a catastrophic, sometimes mortal injury and responds with a very placid reaction inconsistent with the extreme pain they’d be in if it were real. Is there a trope for that? Yeah, the thing about that is that I’ve injured myself in stupid ways quite a few times, and have some nice scars to show for it. I’ve also seen people quite seriously injured - and in my experience, the worse the injury, the more likely you are to not feel it. The pain doesn’t actually kick in for a while. Also, it’s clear that Carl’s injury was a glancing shot across the front of his eye, not through the eye and into the skull which would, of course, be fatal. The bullet missed his nose, smashed his eye, and broke a bit of his eye socket off on the way past. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2016, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-6-09-no-way-out-open-spoilers/746136/100 "2016-02-19T14:59:14Z")
> [@Rigamarole](#): > > Although I thought getting shot in the eye and living seemed pretty damn unlikely (due to the brain being right behind it) Well, there’s your error - assuming there’s a brain behind _anything_ on this show. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-6-09-no-way-out-open-spoilers/746136.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-6-09-no-way-out-open-spoilers/746136.md?page=6)