# The Walking Dead; 6.10 "The Next World" (open spoilers) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [February 22, 2016, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-6-10-the-next-world-open-spoilers/746761 "2016-02-22T00:50:07Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2016, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-6-10-the-next-world-open-spoilers/746761/61 "2016-02-23T19:03:39Z")
> [@Bone](#): > > The guy stole food and their only means of transportation - that’s a capital offense in the zombie apocalypse. They let him go the first time, and he stole their shit. He did dump the backpack but still, stealing their vehicle is bad. > > Rick has been much more suspicious in the past - which is probably one of his better character traits. This trust random people thing is a 180 turn and bad for survival. Though it is consistent with the ham fisted way they are trying to show him changing. > I guess - but they have consistently shown Rick to be pretty quick and astute in law enforcement matters. Much of that was poetic license to show Jesus as a “cool good guy”. Perhaps they believed he was just hungry,and took into consideration that he hadn’t tried to whack them. ---
**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2016, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-6-10-the-next-world-open-spoilers/746761/62 "2016-02-23T19:21:43Z")
\*Ebony and ivory live together in perfect harmony Side by side on my piano keyboard, oh Lord, why don’t we? We all know that people are the same where ever we go There is good and bad in everyone We learn to live, and we learn to give Each other what we need to survive together alive Ebony and ivory live together in perfect harmony Side by side on my piano keyboard, oh Lord, why don’t we? Ebony, ivory living in perfect harmony Ebony, ivory, ooh\* I was surprised that they didn’t start playing Paul McCartney’s _Ebony and Ivory_ when the kissing began on the couch. _Don’t look Carl! Avert your eye!_ (What? Too soon?) ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2016, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-6-10-the-next-world-open-spoilers/746761/63 "2016-02-23T20:10:28Z")
> [@CannyDan](#): > > But how long has it been since the ZA? I’ve lost track of time. I think on the recent episode of _Talking Dead_ they said it’s been two years. (I know they said two months since the last episode.) I don’t know if I misheard, or of someone misspoke, or if the internal time really has been two years. If it’s been two years of show time, and since we’re in Season 6, Coral certainly grew up fast! 😛 ---
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2016, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-6-10-the-next-world-open-spoilers/746761/64 "2016-02-23T20:17:15Z")
> [@Johnny\_L.A](#): > > I think on the recent episode of _Talking Dead_ they said it’s been two years. (I know they said two months since the last episode.) I don’t know if I misheard, or of someone misspoke, or if the internal time really has been two years. If it’s been two years of show time, and since we’re in Season 6, Coral certainly grew up fast! 😛 They implied it. One of those pop-up trivia sequences noted that toothpaste has an expiration date, typically two years after manufacture, so it would still be good in the TWD universe. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2016, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-6-10-the-next-world-open-spoilers/746761/65 "2016-02-23T20:57:10Z")
> [@EllisDee](#): > > They implied it. One of those pop-up trivia sequences noted that toothpaste has an expiration date, typically two years after manufacture, so it would still be good in the TWD universe. Yes, that’s what it was! Thanks. ---
**Author:** ![cantara](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6f9a4e/32.png) [@cantara](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cantara)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2016, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-6-10-the-next-world-open-spoilers/746761/66 "2016-02-23T21:35:13Z")
Carl has such a close relationship with Michonne…is he going to have a problem with that relationship? ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2016, 9:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-6-10-the-next-world-open-spoilers/746761/67 "2016-02-23T21:43:18Z")
I found this about the comic-book Jesus [bolding mine]: Jesus was introduced in Issue #91 in a way that differed greatly in detail from the recent episode, but both stuck to the same general tone. In the comics, it’s Abraham and Michonne that he subdues and **uses as his link to the Alexandria Safe-Zone** , while the TV counterpart has him take advantage of Rick and Daryl as a way to find out where their camp is. Both plans are effective and immediately put out there not only that Jesus is someone who knows how to handle himself in a fight, either with or without weapons, but it also showcases his intelligence and his cunning. **You guys didn’t really think he was having car troubles or that he was actually knocked out on the ride to Alexandria, did you?** So at least that explains why he so conveniently had a flat. ---
**Author:** ![Rigamarole](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/77aa72/32.png) [@Rigamarole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rigamarole)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2016, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-6-10-the-next-world-open-spoilers/746761/68 "2016-02-23T22:50:16Z")
> [@cantara](#): > > Carl has such a close relationship with Michonne…is he going to have a problem with that relationship? He’s had to grow up fast, sure, but Korrl’s still a kid. The actor is only 16 as of _now_, and was 10 years old when the show started (depending on when S1 production began he may have even been 9 at the time). So if the 2 years timeline is true, he’s only ~12 in the show. That would be a major pedo angle if they went there. Of course, as always when dealing with child actors and their tendency to grow up annoyingly fast, that creates some problems with timelines so depending on how long the show runs we might just have to fudge it a little and eventually pretend he’s been about 21 the entire time. ---
**Author:** ![Rigamarole](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/77aa72/32.png) [@Rigamarole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rigamarole)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2016, 11:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-6-10-the-next-world-open-spoilers/746761/69 "2016-02-23T23:55:24Z")
> [@EllisDee](#): > > They implied it. One of those pop-up trivia sequences noted that toothpaste has an expiration date, typically two years after manufacture, so it would still be good in the TWD universe. Somehow, I don’t think using “expired” toothpaste would pose that big of a problem, especially given the circumstances. Medications are also required to print expiration dates, but can still be perfectly fine for years afterwards. It would actually be an interesting long-term experiment to see what becomes of toothpaste after 5, 10, 20+ years. Anyone have a time capsule from the 90s handy? ---
**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2016, 12:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-6-10-the-next-world-open-spoilers/746761/70 "2016-02-24T00:58:30Z")
> [@Rigamarole](#): > > Somehow, I don’t think using “expired” toothpaste would pose that big of a problem, especially given the circumstances. Medications are also required to print expiration dates, but can still be perfectly fine for years afterwards. > > It would actually be an interesting long-term experiment to see what becomes of toothpaste after 5, 10, 20+ years. Anyone have a time capsule from the 90s handy? Last summer ; I came across a tube if toothpaste I had packed when I came home from the Philippines in 2004 or so. Out of curiosity I tried it; it was repulsive. Spit it out instantly. ---
**Author:** ![Master\_Wang-Ka](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/master_wang-ka/32/3325_2.png) [@Master\_Wang-Ka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Master_Wang-Ka)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2016, 1:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-6-10-the-next-world-open-spoilers/746761/71 "2016-02-24T01:28:52Z")
I am of two minds about this episode: 1. It was rather light and funny compared to other recent episodes, and I appreciated the humor. I liked it. 2. Were I in Daryl’s or Rick’s shoes, I might have let him go the first time. I might even have let him go the second time. The third time, after not killing him twice and REGRETTING IT BOTH TIMES, I’d have filled the bastard with daylight… 3. Plainly, Jesus KNEW he was a main character… since, I, after the zombie apocalypse, would simply assume that armed strangers will kill me if I steal their truck of supplies. Jesus sure has a lot of confidence in the innate goodness of our heroes… ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2016, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-6-10-the-next-world-open-spoilers/746761/72 "2016-02-24T03:04:07Z")
> [@Master\_Wang-Ka](#): > > Jesus sure has a lot of confidence in the innate goodness of our heroes… Or he keeps getting caught. ---
**Author:** ![Rigamarole](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/77aa72/32.png) [@Rigamarole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rigamarole)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2016, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-6-10-the-next-world-open-spoilers/746761/73 "2016-02-24T03:17:16Z")
> [@carnivorousplant](#): > > > [@stosh](#): > > > > find jesus > > :dubious: > [@carnivorousplant](#): > > > [@Master\_Wang-Ka](#): > > > > Jesus sure has a lot of confidence in the innate goodness of our heroes… > > Or he keeps getting caught. Well, the creators of the show were clearly telling us something with this episode: whether he’s many miles down the road or on the roof of your truck, it’s always super easy to find Jesus. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2016, 3:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-6-10-the-next-world-open-spoilers/746761/74 "2016-02-24T03:40:35Z")
> [@Rigamarole](#): > > Well, the creators of the show were clearly telling us something with this episode: whether he’s many miles down the road or on the roof of your truck, it’s always super easy to find Jesus. Oye gevalt. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2016, 1:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-6-10-the-next-world-open-spoilers/746761/75 "2016-02-25T01:46:56Z")
> [@Chefguy](#): > > Dianna didn’t really look any different undead than alive, IMO. Possibly a little better, even. Ouch! Now, is it Dianna or Deanna? I can never keep it straight. It’s a lot easier to spell Janeway, which is half the reason I like using that name for her. (The other half being that the characters are irritating in such a [similar](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=18174646&postcount=46) [way](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=18174684&postcount=47). Amazing that two different actresses can pull that off!) ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2016, 2:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-6-10-the-next-world-open-spoilers/746761/76 "2016-02-25T02:50:39Z")
Hell, Admiral Janeway can kill zombies with [“The Look”.](http://s48.photobucket.com/user/miah_ashlee/media/Captain%20Kathryn%20Janeway/motivator8146828xm8.jpg.html) ---
**Author:** ![Sam\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Sam\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Stone)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2016, 9:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-6-10-the-next-world-open-spoilers/746761/77 "2016-02-25T09:32:28Z")
Janeway’s the cook on ‘Orange is the New Black’, and she’s a lot more scary there. ---
**Author:** ![Rigamarole](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/77aa72/32.png) [@Rigamarole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rigamarole)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2016, 9:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-6-10-the-next-world-open-spoilers/746761/78 "2016-02-25T09:57:05Z")
> [@Sam\_Stone](#): > > Janeway’s the cook on ‘Orange is the New Black’, and she’s a lot more scary there. Yeah, I had no idea that was her until I looked her up on IMDB because of people calling the (other) actress in these threads Janeway. Seems like she gained a lot of weight since the Star Trek days. ---
**Author:** ![E-DUB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/e-dub/32/403_2.png) [@E-DUB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-DUB)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2016, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-6-10-the-next-world-open-spoilers/746761/79 "2016-02-25T15:05:14Z")
I think most people were going with the “Janeway” thing because of a moderate physical resemblance and a strong similarity in character style. ---
**Author:** ![GrumpyBunny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bc8723/32.png) [@GrumpyBunny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrumpyBunny)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2016, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-6-10-the-next-world-open-spoilers/746761/80 "2016-02-25T17:14:38Z")
> [@MOIDALIZE](#): > > “Hey, let’s leave this working car behind for no reason, and pin all our hopes on this truck that’s been sitting in a barn for who knows how long, because everything is sure to keep coming up Milhouse for us for the rest of the day.” Why didn’t one of them drive the truck, and the other one the car? WHY? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-6-10-the-next-world-open-spoilers/746761.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-6-10-the-next-world-open-spoilers/746761.md?page=5)