# The Walking Dead; 6.16 "Last Day on Earth" (open spoilers) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [April 3, 2016, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-6-16-last-day-on-earth-open-spoilers/751139 "2016-04-03T23:49:27Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2016, 6:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-6-16-last-day-on-earth-open-spoilers/751139/41 "2016-04-04T06:41:49Z")
> [@Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](#): > > Sometime tell me in a spoiler who it was in the comics, because I so don’t even care anymore. In the comics, it’s Glenn. ---
**Author:** ![Grsz11](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Grsz11](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grsz11)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2016, 9:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-6-16-last-day-on-earth-open-spoilers/751139/42 "2016-04-04T09:52:57Z")
I’m going to at least credit Greg Nicotero’s directing. It was the same person who’s perspective we saw first person a few times. Those clips did nothing else for the story…no dialouge, nothing. That leaves Glenn, Michonne, Daryl, or Rosita. ---
**Author:** ![Quimby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/22d042/32.png) [@Quimby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quimby)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2016, 11:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-6-16-last-day-on-earth-open-spoilers/751139/43 "2016-04-04T11:15:50Z")
That episode sucked. We get Morgan on a horse and the wandering adventures of the RV for over an hour and then a non ending. Seriously? And it didn’t make a lot of sense. The only reason Rick et al. took to the road is that Maggie was sick. How did Negan know today was the day to block every road? The blocade with the tree trunks would have taken days. And the final scene? It played very much like the comic did but unfortunately what worked on the page did not play so well in live action. I can’t necessarily fault them for that because maybe Negan is just one of those characters that works better in your imagination. I can fault them for that fuck up of a cliff hanger. Seriously, screw them for making that creative decision. Having Negan kill some one violently could have been powerful and affecting. Now it just seems cheap and manipulative. A very poor episode all around. ---
**Author:** ![stosh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e95f7d/32.png) [@stosh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/stosh)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2016, 11:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-6-16-last-day-on-earth-open-spoilers/751139/44 "2016-04-04T11:39:50Z")
This show is like a car wreck, you know your not going to like what you see, but you look anyway. ---
**Author:** ![elninost0rm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ed655f/32.png) [@elninost0rm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elninost0rm)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2016, 12:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-6-16-last-day-on-earth-open-spoilers/751139/45 "2016-04-04T12:19:18Z")
It has to be Abe. Earlier, when Negan was doing his monologue, it should be noted that Abe looked up at him, almost defiantly. Negan let out a “hm”. He looked up again after the first swing of the bat, and Negan noted his persistence. It makes sense with the rest of the episode as well (talking about kids with Sasha, having a moment with Eugene). Just my 2 cents. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2016, 12:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-6-16-last-day-on-earth-open-spoilers/751139/46 "2016-04-04T12:53:10Z")
> [@elninost0rm](#): > > Just my 2 cents. I think so, too. ---
**Author:** ![gytalf2000](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ac91a4/32.png) [@gytalf2000](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gytalf2000)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2016, 1:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-6-16-last-day-on-earth-open-spoilers/751139/47 "2016-04-04T13:10:43Z")
I’m leaning towards Abraham being the victim. Second choice is Eugene. Not too happy about that “first-person perspective” of the execution, though. Drat! But I can wait until next season for the reveal… ---
**Author:** ![Algernon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a183cd/32.png) [@Algernon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Algernon)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2016, 1:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-6-16-last-day-on-earth-open-spoilers/751139/48 "2016-04-04T13:19:22Z")
> [@Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](#): > > Fuck I’m really pissed at the writers jerking the audience around like this. Agree. It is irritating, and in my opinion, unnecessary. Another thing that took me out of the story was Morgan riding up on the horse, seemingly appearing out of nowhere and surprising the guy shooting Carol. Riding up on a horse! And no one heard him coming! Sheesh. The horse must be a ninja. And who are the guys in armor, with the spear? Yet another society? Are they cooperating with the Saviors? Or will they be the saviors of our plucky band of survivors (minus one)? ---
**Author:** ![Omar\_Little](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omar_little/32/269_2.png) [@Omar\_Little](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omar_Little)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2016, 1:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-6-16-last-day-on-earth-open-spoilers/751139/49 "2016-04-04T13:22:55Z")
My understanding is not even the cast knows who the victim is. ---
**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2016, 1:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-6-16-last-day-on-earth-open-spoilers/751139/50 "2016-04-04T13:28:14Z")
> [@Algernon](#): > > Agree. It is irritating, and in my opinion, unnecessary. > > Another thing that took me out of the story was Morgan riding up on the horse, seemingly appearing out of nowhere and surprising the guy shooting Carol. Riding up on a horse! And no one heard him coming! Sheesh. The horse must be a ninja. > > And who are the guys in armor, with the spear? Yet another society? Are they cooperating with the Saviors? Or will they be the saviors of our plucky band of survivors (minus one)? I think that those guys are part of [the Kingdom](http://walkingdead.wikia.com/wiki/The_Kingdom), which is run by a gentleman named Ezekiel. ---
**Author:** ![SykoSkotty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c0e974/32.png) [@SykoSkotty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SykoSkotty)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2016, 1:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-6-16-last-day-on-earth-open-spoilers/751139/51 "2016-04-04T13:28:16Z")
The only one not shown in Negan’s eeny meeny miny moe game was Eugene, so my guess is it’s him. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2016, 1:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-6-16-last-day-on-earth-open-spoilers/751139/52 "2016-04-04T13:35:20Z")
> [@Algernon](#): > > Agree. It is irritating, and in my opinion, unnecessary. I imagine that it has to do with the making of money. The season premiere will be touted to advertisers as having a lot of viewers. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2016, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-6-16-last-day-on-earth-open-spoilers/751139/53 "2016-04-04T13:53:52Z")
I’m surprised no one volunteered to be “it”. A noble sacrifice. Eugene could have; Abe could have; Glenn could have (to save Maggie). ---
**Author:** ![randwill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/a3d4f5/32.png) [@randwill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/randwill)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2016, 2:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-6-16-last-day-on-earth-open-spoilers/751139/54 "2016-04-04T14:01:26Z")
Are we supposed to know who the two victims of the Saviours were? The guy they dragged to the first road block and the guy they hanged off the bridge. ---
**Author:** ![elninost0rm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ed655f/32.png) [@elninost0rm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elninost0rm)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2016, 2:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-6-16-last-day-on-earth-open-spoilers/751139/55 "2016-04-04T14:02:37Z")
> [@Omar\_Little](#): > > My understanding is not even the cast knows who the victim is. They’ll say whatever they want to mislead the audience, at least IMO. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2016, 2:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-6-16-last-day-on-earth-open-spoilers/751139/56 "2016-04-04T14:07:42Z")
> [@randwill](#): > > Are we supposed to know who the two victims of the Saviours were? The guy they dragged to the first road block and the guy they hanged off the bridge. I thought it was the same guy. He was one of the Hilltop group. IIRC, he had an “X” spray painted on his chest, which we saw happen during the first encounter with Rick’s group. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2016, 2:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-6-16-last-day-on-earth-open-spoilers/751139/57 "2016-04-04T14:08:49Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > I thought it was the same guy. He was one of the Hilltop group. I think it was the same guy. I got the impression that he was from a different group, one that rebelled and was wiped out. ---
**Author:** ![Human\_Action](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ac91a4/32.png) [@Human\_Action](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Human_Action)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2016, 2:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-6-16-last-day-on-earth-open-spoilers/751139/58 "2016-04-04T14:08:49Z")
> [@Quimby](#): > > And it didn’t make a lot of sense. The only reason Rick et al. took to the road is that Maggie was sick. How did Negan know today was the day to block every road? The blocade with the tree trunks would have taken days. Maybe they assumed that Alexandria would send out a search party for Daryl, Rosita, Glenn, and Michonne? > [@Algernon](#): > > Another thing that took me out of the story was Morgan riding up on the horse, seemingly appearing out of nowhere and surprising the guy shooting Carol. Riding up on a horse! And no one heard him coming! Sheesh. The horse must be a ninja. That was wince-inducing. There are ways to block a scene to make it somewhat believable, and the show seldom bothers to do it. > [@randwill](#): > > Are we supposed to know who the two victims of the Saviours were? The guy they dragged to the first road block and the guy they hanged off the bridge. It was the same guy, in the bridge scene he had a red X spray-painted on his chest, and we saw the spray-painting happen at the roadblock scene. ---
**Author:** ![Grsz11](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Grsz11](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grsz11)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2016, 2:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-6-16-last-day-on-earth-open-spoilers/751139/59 "2016-04-04T14:08:58Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > I’m surprised no one volunteered to be “it”. A noble sacrifice. Eugene could have; Abe could have; Glenn could have (to save Maggie). I thought Abraham did, when he sort of rose to meet Negan. And Glenn did too. ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2016, 2:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-6-16-last-day-on-earth-open-spoilers/751139/60 "2016-04-04T14:19:17Z")
> [@Grsz11](#): > > I thought Abraham did, when he sort of rose to meet Negan. And Glenn did too. which makes them both ‘breakable’ - since they’ll do anything to protect someone else. It will be a weak one - won’t be carl. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-6-16-last-day-on-earth-open-spoilers/751139.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-6-16-last-day-on-earth-open-spoilers/751139.md?page=4)