# The Walking Dead; 7.04 "Service" (open spoilers)

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**Created:** [November 14, 2016, 1:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-7-04-service-open-spoilers/771920 "2016-11-14T01:14:24Z")\
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**Author:** ![m30wc0w](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/aca169/32.png) [@m30wc0w](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/m30wc0w)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2016, 2:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-7-04-service-open-spoilers/771920/41 "2016-11-15T02:06:33Z")

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Negan is my favourite character in the entire (comicbook) series 😃

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2016, 2:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-7-04-service-open-spoilers/771920/42 "2016-11-15T02:12:25Z")

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> [@m30wc0w](#):
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> Negan is my favourite character in the entire (comicbook) series 😃

Yeah, well, we are going to beat you up and steal your lunch money. :dubious:

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2016, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-7-04-service-open-spoilers/771920/43 "2016-11-15T02:17:31Z")

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At this point, I’d likely gather one or two of my closest most trusted personal associates, take a fully-fueled vehicle on a “scavenging run” and just… leave. Light out for the territories, man. A day later, you’re in Aspen. Sorry, Alexandria, I’ll pay you back next apocalypse.

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**Author:** ![MacTech](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c0e974/32.png) [@MacTech](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MacTech)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2016, 2:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-7-04-service-open-spoilers/771920/44 "2016-11-15T02:30:01Z")

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> [@stosh](#):
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> The crosshairs were right on the zombie and she missed several times. You didn’t even see if the shots were close.  
> I don’t know where the hell the deer was. What was the deer doing that close (?) to the zombies. She killed the deer with one shot, by luck, I guess.  
> Another indication of the top-notch writing on this show.

The cartridges appeared to be some variety of .30 caliber, most likely a .30-06 or .308, both are high power cartridges, it’s conceivable that Michonne was hitting the Walker center mass and due to the decomposition of the corpse, they were simply passing through the torso, I’d imagine unless the cartridge struck skeletal structure, decomposing flesh would offer no resistance to a soft point hunting bullet.

Remember, head shots only put walkers down

I was surprised no one in Alexandria heard her taking shots, .30 caliber cartridges are _LOUD!_

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2016, 3:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-7-04-service-open-spoilers/771920/45 "2016-11-15T03:06:51Z")

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> [@alphaboi867](#):
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> Also when did Alexandria get a proper chapel, complete with stained glass window & pews? 😕 Wasn’t he preaching to people in his garage before?

I thought they always had the chapel. Didn’t it have a bunch of roses in it, the first time we saw it?

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**Author:** ![salinqmind](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3ec8ea/32.png) [@salinqmind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/salinqmind)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2016, 3:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-7-04-service-open-spoilers/771920/46 "2016-11-15T03:45:15Z")

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> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#):
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> At this point, I’d likely gather one or two of my closest most trusted personal associates, take a fully-fueled vehicle on a “scavenging run” and just… leave. Light out for the territories, man. A day later, you’re in Aspen. Sorry, Alexandria, I’ll pay you back next apocalypse.

In Rosita’s brand new shiny gold car? It’s a little showy, but rub some mud over it to dull the finish…

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**Author:** ![Shakester](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shakester/32/437_2.png) [@Shakester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shakester)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2016, 6:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-7-04-service-open-spoilers/771920/47 "2016-11-15T06:36:54Z")

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I’m up to date with the comics. I will post no spoilers, but I will say be patient with the Negan stuff. There are interesting developments on the horizon. Of course, the TV series diverges from the comic in many ways, but the overall arc of this storyline seems to be pretty similar.

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**Author:** ![mistymage](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mistymage/32/459_2.png) [@mistymage](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mistymage)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2016, 1:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-7-04-service-open-spoilers/771920/48 "2016-11-15T13:41:49Z")

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I’m guessing that some point in the future Daryl will ask Dwight for his motorcycle back and Dwight will give it to him. Possibly after Dwight’s ex-girlfriend (Negan’s ‘wife’) dies somehow. Thus redeeming Dwight, setting Daryl free and then the Alexandrians step up.

That or Carol gets her mind back in the game. We need more Carol and less Carl.

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**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2016, 2:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-7-04-service-open-spoilers/771920/49 "2016-11-15T14:21:16Z")

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All I know is that I’m hooked for the sole reason that I can’t wait to see Nagen die a horrible, and probably really cool, death. Natch, it will be Rick doing him in viciously but I would be willing to start a GoFundMe to pay off the writers to get Eugene to finally snap and go like full-Steven-Seagal on the bastard.

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2016, 2:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-7-04-service-open-spoilers/771920/50 "2016-11-15T14:35:10Z")

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> [@mistymage](#):
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> We need more Carol and less Carl.

Carol is living in a house near the kingdom, or in the kingdom?

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**Post date:** [November 15, 2016, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-7-04-service-open-spoilers/771920/51 "2016-11-15T17:42:50Z")

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> [@Jack\_Batty](#):
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> All I know is that I’m hooked for the sole reason that I can’t wait to see Nagen die a horrible, and probably really cool, death. Natch, it will be Rick doing him in viciously but I would be willing to start a GoFundMe to pay off the writers to get Eugene to finally snap and go like full-Steven-Seagal on the bastard.

Hmm… Up until now, I wanted it to be Maggie. But I gotta admit, your scenario sounds freakin’ awesome! Great idea!

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**Post date:** [November 15, 2016, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-7-04-service-open-spoilers/771920/52 "2016-11-15T17:48:15Z")

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> [@gytalf2000](#):
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> > [@Jack\_Batty](#):
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> > I would be willing to start a GoFundMe to pay off the writers to get Eugene to finally snap and go like full-Steven-Seagal on the bastard.
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> I gotta admit, your scenario sounds freakin’ awesome! Great idea!

Agreed.

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**Post date:** [November 15, 2016, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-7-04-service-open-spoilers/771920/53 "2016-11-15T18:07:08Z")

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Thirded, so long as they avoid the pitfall of it being to George McFly-ish.

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**Author:** ![Omar\_Little](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omar_little/32/269_2.png) [@Omar\_Little](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omar_Little)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2016, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-7-04-service-open-spoilers/771920/54 "2016-11-15T18:22:00Z")

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Rick’s no better than Negan. Some might say he’s worse. He raided a Savior’s camp without provocation and executed all of them…just for food from Hilltop.

And he uses intimidation with his own people just like Negan. He threatened what’s her names son to break his jaw and knock all of his teeth out. Rick’s not broken, he’s just biding his time.

The only reason the fans abhor Negan, is because we’re vested with Rick and his team.  
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**Author:** ![Biffster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biffster/32/339_2.png) [@Biffster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffster)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2016, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-7-04-service-open-spoilers/771920/55 "2016-11-15T21:03:50Z")

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> [@Omar\_Little](#):
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> Rick’s no better than Negan. Some might say he’s worse. He raided a Savior’s camp without provocation and executed all of them…just for food from Hilltop.
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> And he uses intimidation with his own people just like Negan. He threatened what’s her names son to break his jaw and knock all of his teeth out. Rick’s not broken, he’s just biding his time.
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> The only reason the fans abhor Negan, is because we’re vested with Rick and his team.  
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And also Negan smashes people’s skulls into a pulp in the broad daylight right there in front of everyone, all with that shit-eating grin on his face. So there’s that.  
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**Author:** ![Biffster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biffster/32/339_2.png) [@Biffster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffster)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2016, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-7-04-service-open-spoilers/771920/56 "2016-11-15T21:05:28Z")

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> [@Jack\_Batty](#):
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> All I know is that I’m hooked for the sole reason that I can’t wait to see Nagen die a horrible, and probably really cool, death. Natch, it will be Rick doing him in viciously but I would be willing to start a GoFundMe to pay off the writers to get Eugene to finally snap and go like full-Steven-Seagal on the bastard.

Negan won’t die. That’s what the prison cell that Morgan built is for.  
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**Post date:** [November 15, 2016, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-7-04-service-open-spoilers/771920/57 "2016-11-15T23:01:12Z")

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> [@Biffster](#):
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> Negan won’t die. That’s what the prison cell that Morgan built is for.  
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Spoilers, Dude. I saw someone post a picture of that from the comic.  
I prefer [Vlad the Impaler’s](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vlad_the_Impaler#Fame_for_cruelty)solution, with Lucille.  
For some reason, I find it obscene for the bat to have the same name as BB King’s guitars.

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**Post date:** [November 15, 2016, 11:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-7-04-service-open-spoilers/771920/58 "2016-11-15T23:19:51Z")

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I have to assume that this is building to a Rick’s group/Kingdom alliance against Negan.

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**Post date:** [November 16, 2016, 12:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-7-04-service-open-spoilers/771920/59 "2016-11-16T00:19:00Z")

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> [@carnivorousplant](#):
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> Spoilers, Dude. I saw someone post a picture of that from the comic.
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> I prefer [Vlad the Impaler’s](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vlad_the_Impaler#Fame_for_cruelty)solution, with Lucille.
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> For some reason, I find it obscene for the bat to have the same name as BB King’s guitars.

I’m not sure it’s a spoiler if we’ve already watched the cell being built last season.  
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**Post date:** [November 16, 2016, 12:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-7-04-service-open-spoilers/771920/60 "2016-11-16T00:20:09Z")

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Also, there’s that Kenny Rogers song forever ruined.  
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