# The Walking Dead; 7.12 "Say Yes" (open spoilers) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [March 6, 2017, 12:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-7-12-say-yes-open-spoilers/781506 "2017-03-06T00:52:39Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2017, 12:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-7-12-say-yes-open-spoilers/781506/1 "2017-03-06T00:52:39Z")
[QUOTE=AMC] The group scavenges for supplies; back in Alexandria, someone must make a morally challenging decision. [/QUOTE] Denise Huth and everyone’s favourite guest _Yvette Nicole Brown_ 🙂 are on **Talking Dead**. ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2017, 3:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-7-12-say-yes-open-spoilers/781506/2 "2017-03-06T03:12:05Z")
I really wanna know what the hell happened at that carnival that all the soldiers died with their guns on their backs. There was also civilians with their hands tied together. ---
**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2017, 3:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-7-12-say-yes-open-spoilers/781506/3 "2017-03-06T03:34:40Z")
Yeah, that was a really strange juxtaposition. :dubious: Presumably the carnival was going on when the zombie apocalypse started, but was quickly overrun before it could be shut down, then the military arrived. Or it was a really bizarre & ill times attempt at entertaining the troops. ---
**Author:** ![Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eyebrows_0f_doom/32/3119_2.png) [@Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eyebrows_0f_Doom)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2017, 3:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-7-12-say-yes-open-spoilers/781506/4 "2017-03-06T03:44:32Z")
The junkyard leader is just so fucking stupid. There is absolutely no reason to be speaking like you’re straight out of Mad Max. It’s been what, like 3 years? It’s not three generations. You don’t forget how to speak. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Shakester](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shakester/32/437_2.png) [@Shakester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shakester)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2017, 7:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-7-12-say-yes-open-spoilers/781506/5 "2017-03-06T07:15:12Z")
> [@Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](#): > > The junkyard leader is just so fucking stupid. There is absolutely no reason to be speaking like you’re straight out of Mad Max. It’s been what, like 3 years? It’s not three generations. You don’t forget how to speak. :rolleyes: Some people speak in weird affected ways right now. Have you never met anyone who does that? I have. Bizarre drawls, baby talk, annoying vocal mannerisms. It really isn’t that difficult to imagine someone going fully into their own idiosyncratic speech patterns after the ZA. The makers of the show aren’t trying to suggest that Jadis and her people have “forgotten how to speak”, just that they’re an isolated group led by an oddball. Honestly, it would strike me as far odder if you’re claiming to have never met anyone IRL who talked in an affected and irritating way. ---
**Author:** ![SykoSkotty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c0e974/32.png) [@SykoSkotty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SykoSkotty)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2017, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-7-12-say-yes-open-spoilers/781506/6 "2017-03-06T14:47:11Z")
I don’t like the Scavengers at all and I’m surprised that Rick is trusting them. It will be interesting to see how Oceanside plays out after Tara informs Rick. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2017, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-7-12-say-yes-open-spoilers/781506/7 "2017-03-06T16:21:38Z")
OK, yet again we have a half-baked plan that depends on everything going perfectly even though they don’t have all the info they need, but they go ahead and execute anyway… calamity ensues. Here, I’m talking about Rick and Michonne and the car with the walker in the windshield. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2017, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-7-12-say-yes-open-spoilers/781506/8 "2017-03-06T16:31:00Z")
Would the spine let you pull the body in half? ---
**Author:** ![Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eyebrows_0f_doom/32/3119_2.png) [@Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eyebrows_0f_Doom)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2017, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-7-12-say-yes-open-spoilers/781506/9 "2017-03-06T18:32:10Z")
> [@Shakester](#): > > Some people speak in weird affected ways right now. Have you never met anyone who does that? I have. Bizarre drawls, baby talk, annoying vocal mannerisms. It really isn’t that difficult to imagine someone going fully into their own idiosyncratic speech patterns after the ZA. The makers of the show aren’t trying to suggest that Jadis and her people have “forgotten how to speak”, just that they’re an isolated group led by an oddball. > > Honestly, it would strike me as far odder if you’re claiming to have never met anyone IRL who talked in an affected and irritating way. Please. I didn’t say that. Ezekiel speaks in an affected way and it’s **way** less stupid than the junkyard people. I’m hardly alone in thinking their way of speaking is idiotic and makes no sense. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2017, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-7-12-say-yes-open-spoilers/781506/10 "2017-03-06T18:35:49Z")
> [@Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](#): > > I’m hardly alone in thinking their way of speaking is idiotic and makes no sense. You are not alone. ---
**Author:** ![Terry\_the\_Tramp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/838e76/32.png) [@Terry\_the\_Tramp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terry_the_Tramp)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2017, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-7-12-say-yes-open-spoilers/781506/11 "2017-03-06T18:43:30Z")
There are some really tall scavengers. At least two of them are close to 7 feet tall. It really jumped out at me when they were walking through the shipping container in an earlier episode and then again last night. Yes their way of speaking is extremely annoying. ---
**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2017, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-7-12-say-yes-open-spoilers/781506/12 "2017-03-06T19:29:17Z")
> [@SykoSkotty](#): > > I don’t like the Scavengers at all and I’m surprised that Rick is trusting them. It will be interesting to see how Oceanside plays out after Tara informs Rick. Rick is willing to work with the Scavengers even if he doesn’t fully trust them. There appears to be mistrust on both sides but this falls under the adage “The enemy of my enemy is my friend”. By doing business with them, Rick’s group is trying to build trust between the two groups. That leaves the question of whether the Scavengers will live up to their part of the deal? Speaking of Oceanside, what ever happened to Heath, the other Alexandria runner, who was last seen when he separated from Tara after she fell from the bridge upstream from the not-yet-discovered Oceanside? ---
**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2017, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-7-12-say-yes-open-spoilers/781506/13 "2017-03-06T19:35:42Z")
> [@carnivorousplant](#): > > Would the spine let you pull the body in half? An old (2+ years?), weathered, rotting spine could easily be torn apart. ---
**Author:** ![mistymage](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mistymage/32/459_2.png) [@mistymage](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mistymage)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2017, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-7-12-say-yes-open-spoilers/781506/14 "2017-03-06T20:10:13Z")
> [@doorhinge](#): > > Speaking of Oceanside, what ever happened to Heath, the other Alexandria runner, who was last seen when he separated from Tara after she fell from the bridge upstream from the not-yet-discovered Oceanside? We don’t know. His glasses were on the bridge but he hasn’t shown back up at Alexandria. Maybe he’ll show up at Oceanside. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2017, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-7-12-say-yes-open-spoilers/781506/15 "2017-03-06T20:11:43Z")
> [@mistymage](#): > > We don’t know. His glasses were on the bridge but he hasn’t shown back up at Alexandria. Maybe he’ll show up at Oceanside. On one hand, they did spend some time on the character and it would be nice to know his fate. OTOH, sometimes people just disappear. ---
**Author:** ![Quimby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/22d042/32.png) [@Quimby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quimby)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2017, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-7-12-say-yes-open-spoilers/781506/16 "2017-03-06T21:34:33Z")
As I wrote in last week’s thread, the weird talk is a form of tribalism which I could see happening in this type of world so I’m okay with it. When they went on the roof, the first thing I thought of was a sequence a few seasons back where they went on the roof of a grocery store and fell in and then they fell in here too. The deer fake out was dumb. This show lost all credibility on that front with Glenn a few years ago. I wonder if Heath is with Oceanside? They may have found him and he decided to stay unlike Tara. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2017, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-7-12-say-yes-open-spoilers/781506/17 "2017-03-06T21:57:19Z")
> [@Quimby](#): > > When they went on the roof, the first thing I thought of was a sequence a few seasons back where they went on the roof of a grocery store and fell in and then they fell in here too. That didn’t work for me. For one thing, the roof at the store was compromised by a UH-60 sticking through it. For another, they would have felt if the roof was ‘spongy’. And it was exceedingly predictable. ---
**Author:** ![Mean\_Mr.Mustard](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mean_mr.mustard/32/3865_2.png) [@Mean\_Mr.Mustard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mean_Mr.Mustard)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2017, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-7-12-say-yes-open-spoilers/781506/18 "2017-03-07T02:05:54Z")
> [@Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](#): > > I’m hardly alone in thinking their way of speaking is idiotic and makes no sense. > [@Johnny\_L.A](#): > > You are not alone. We are not alone. mmm ---
**Author:** ![Sam\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Sam\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Stone)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2017, 3:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-7-12-say-yes-open-spoilers/781506/19 "2017-03-07T03:16:27Z")
That episode was a good example of what’s wrong with this show. Just about everything everyone did was stupid. I called out the collapsing roof the second they walked out on it. There was no reason for them to take such risks to clear the walkers. Joking about putting Michonne in a position where she would have to kill 8 walkers to survive was idiotic. The stunt with the car wasn’t even comprehensible. The deer fakeout was obvious and stupid, and only done to give us a dramatc Michonne moment. And so it goes… Did you notice when they fell it originally sounded like they fell down many floors? And then there was the instant laughing when they fell. That would be terrifying, not funny. And how did they know there wouldn’t be walkers in there? None of these.were the actions of people who have managed to survive years in the zombie apocalypse. ---
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2017, 10:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-7-12-say-yes-open-spoilers/781506/20 "2017-03-07T10:46:56Z")
> [@Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](#): > > Please. I didn’t say that. Ezekiel speaks in an affected way and it’s **way** less stupid than the junkyard people. I’m hardly alone in thinking their way of speaking is idiotic and makes no sense. Count me in on this, though I credit the idiocy and lack of sense to this being a comic book. It’s right in line with the countless other stupid comic book features of the show, and those seem to be growing lately. (Ezekiel’s tiger, for example, and any scene of Ezekiel in his “throne room” officially meeting strangers.) Apparently the tribe and their dopey speech pattern isn’t in the comics, but it fits right in with all the other comic book stupidity. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-7-12-say-yes-open-spoilers/781506.md?page=2)