# The Walking Dead; 7.16 "The First Day of the Rest of Your Life" (open spoilers) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [April 3, 2017, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-7-16-the-first-day-of-the-rest-of-your-life-open-spoilers/783622 "2017-04-03T00:09:01Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2017, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-7-16-the-first-day-of-the-rest-of-your-life-open-spoilers/783622/41 "2017-04-03T19:22:54Z")
> [@carnivorousplant](#): > > i was thinking of a scene where they are being transported in their garbage trucks, and daryl reaches over and starts the compactor. > “let me offer you a better deal.” _lol_😃 ---
**Author:** ![msmith537](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d9b06d/32.png) [@msmith537](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/msmith537)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2017, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-7-16-the-first-day-of-the-rest-of-your-life-open-spoilers/783622/42 "2017-04-03T19:24:29Z")
> [@greenmario](#): > > Loved this episode. Favorite moments being the Kingdom’s entrance and Eugene deadpanning “I’m Negan”, so intense. It was a bit silly though that everyone in Alexandria managed to 180 spin-move the garbage person aiming a gun at their back due to Sasha’s distraction. Yeah, all it takes is a split second distraction for Carl to turn into John Wick. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2017, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-7-16-the-first-day-of-the-rest-of-your-life-open-spoilers/783622/43 "2017-04-03T19:42:05Z")
> [@doorhinge](#): > > Dwight’s plan? A Negan stooge appears out of nowhere and convinces the Alexandrians to accept his advice? Seriously? What’s wrong with leaving Dwight locked up in Morgan’s cell until they can verify Dwight’s story, or decide what to do with him? Anyone can cut down a tree in order to block a road. > Letting Dwight get any kind of look around the inside of Alexandria’s defenses, or letting him take a headcount of defenders is a really bad (aka stupid) idea. > [@rainy](#): > > … But for a bunch of people that can headshot zombies with pistols while running across broken terrain, they sure as heck can’t hit a living target with a full clip. … These points illustrate the way the writers work: let’s decide what we want to have happen—then we’ll make the characters as stupid/good with guns/inept with guns/whatever, needed to make what we want to happen, happen. The events and incidents never come out of ‘what would this character actually do’ and ‘what skills have we established that these characters have,’ but instead, out of ‘what do we need them to do and to be in order to make our plot points occur.’ AKA bad writing. (But some decent CGI, I will say–the tiger was more convincing, in this episode, than in some earlier episodes.) ---
**Author:** ![rainy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c2a13f/32.png) [@rainy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rainy)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2017, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-7-16-the-first-day-of-the-rest-of-your-life-open-spoilers/783622/44 "2017-04-03T20:59:41Z")
Why did Rosita’s bomb fail? ---
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2017, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-7-16-the-first-day-of-the-rest-of-your-life-open-spoilers/783622/45 "2017-04-03T21:06:55Z")
> [@rainy](#): > > Why did Rosita’s bomb fail? I think Negan’s group disarmed them. ---
**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2017, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-7-16-the-first-day-of-the-rest-of-your-life-open-spoilers/783622/46 "2017-04-03T21:24:18Z")
> [@carnivorousplant](#): > > I was thinking of a scene where they are being transported in their garbage trucks, and Daryl reaches over and starts the compactor. > “Let me offer you a better deal.” You made me think of [this](https://youtu.be/YUZmqwXcfQo?t=61). ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2017, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-7-16-the-first-day-of-the-rest-of-your-life-open-spoilers/783622/47 "2017-04-03T22:16:07Z")
> [@Superdude](#): > > You made me think of [this](https://youtu.be/YUZmqwXcfQo?t=61). Yeah, pretty much. That guy washes his hair, though. ---
**Author:** ![rainy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c2a13f/32.png) [@rainy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rainy)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2017, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-7-16-the-first-day-of-the-rest-of-your-life-open-spoilers/783622/48 "2017-04-03T22:39:25Z")
Went back and rewatched that portion. Just after we see Rosita and Daryl working the bomb, we see cars being pulled in front of the gate. During that scene a trash dump woman is smoking a cigar and lingering near the bomb. I thought see got an inordinate amount if screen time for an extra…but I guess that’s why. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2017, 11:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-7-16-the-first-day-of-the-rest-of-your-life-open-spoilers/783622/49 "2017-04-03T23:34:37Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > Sounds like no resolution to The Negan Problem tonight, as most of the folks here have predicted. I’ve been avoiding the episodes (and these threads) until the Negan Problem is resolved, at which point I’ll binge to catch up. ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2017, 11:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-7-16-the-first-day-of-the-rest-of-your-life-open-spoilers/783622/50 "2017-04-03T23:38:08Z")
> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#): > > I’ve been avoiding the episodes (and these threads) until the Negan Problem is resolved, at which point I’ll binge to catch up. I get the feeling you’ll need to wait until at least the end of next season to begin your viewing pleasure. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2017, 11:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-7-16-the-first-day-of-the-rest-of-your-life-open-spoilers/783622/51 "2017-04-03T23:46:14Z")
> [@Jack\_Batty](#): > > I get the feeling you’ll need to wait until at least the end of next season to begin your viewing pleasure. I’m patient. Like a zombie who’s been lying in a corridor for years until someone walks by. Meantime, I’m enjoying _Z Nation_ a lot more than I ever liked TWD. ---
**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2017, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-7-16-the-first-day-of-the-rest-of-your-life-open-spoilers/783622/52 "2017-04-04T00:39:49Z")
> [@Meltdown](#): > > …Also curious about Eugene – was his refusal to tell Negan about the poison he gave to Sasha an indication that he’s no longer “Negan,” or is he just scared of Negan getting mad at him? He’s scared of Negan; how the hell is he supposed to explain him giving Sasha suicide pills (that he made himself) without provoking Negan to kill him. So instead he offered Negan a plausible explanation for Sasha’s death. Lucky for Eugene Negan appears to have bought it (at least for now) and has more pressing concerns to deal with. That being said if I were Eugene I’d have made extra pills for myself & keep them on my person at all times. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2017, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-7-16-the-first-day-of-the-rest-of-your-life-open-spoilers/783622/53 "2017-04-04T00:41:48Z")
> [@alphaboi867](#): > > Lucky for Eugene Negan appears to have bought it Didn’t look like it to me. ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2017, 12:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-7-16-the-first-day-of-the-rest-of-your-life-open-spoilers/783622/54 "2017-04-04T00:56:15Z")
If he hadn’t bought it that would have been an immediate lucilling for Eugene. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2017, 1:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-7-16-the-first-day-of-the-rest-of-your-life-open-spoilers/783622/55 "2017-04-04T01:01:07Z")
> [@DigitalC](#): > > If he hadn’t bought it that would have been an immediate lucilling for Eugene. The explanation was plausible. I think Negan was just choosing to believe it for tne nonce. ---
**Author:** ![vislor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/vislor/32/5933_2.png) [@vislor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vislor)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2017, 2:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-7-16-the-first-day-of-the-rest-of-your-life-open-spoilers/783622/56 "2017-04-04T02:20:28Z")
I had a much longer, nit-picky reply, but it comes down to this. Overall, some good moments but lacking story. I feel like we just reset to the end of season six but with the main character death in this episode instead of the next one. I really didn’t like the 80s A-Team shooting. NO idea how so many, on both sides, survived. I will be watching the next season but this could be the beginning of the end for me. ---
**Author:** ![BeepKillBeep](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9e8a1a/32.png) [@BeepKillBeep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BeepKillBeep)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2017, 2:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-7-16-the-first-day-of-the-rest-of-your-life-open-spoilers/783622/57 "2017-04-04T02:40:06Z")
I think ultimately Eugene will be killed by Negan next season. I don’t think Negan fully trusts him. A possibility is Dwight sets up Eugene like he setup Dr. Say-Hello-To-My-Little-Furnace. Another possibility is Dwight tries to setup Eugene but it backfires. All in all, though I’m expecting some skullduggery between Dwight and Eugene. ---
**Author:** ![Terry\_the\_Tramp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/838e76/32.png) [@Terry\_the\_Tramp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terry_the_Tramp)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2017, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-7-16-the-first-day-of-the-rest-of-your-life-open-spoilers/783622/58 "2017-04-04T02:43:54Z")
Dwight could have proven his loyalty just by firing on his fellow Saviors even if Negan is still protected by plot armor. Don’t know why the writers had him take up with the Saviors at the moment of truth. I wonder if the Scavengers will turn on Negan next season. Would be interesting to turn this into a three-way war. No way Alexandria could ever trust the Scavengers again which could be exactly what happens. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2017, 11:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-7-16-the-first-day-of-the-rest-of-your-life-open-spoilers/783622/59 "2017-04-04T11:55:19Z")
> [@Terry\_the\_Tramp](#): > > Would be interesting to turn this into a three-way war. No way Alexandria could ever trust the Scavengers again which could be exactly what happens. Study up on the garbage truck manuals. ---
**Author:** ![Shakester](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shakester/32/437_2.png) [@Shakester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shakester)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2017, 1:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-7-16-the-first-day-of-the-rest-of-your-life-open-spoilers/783622/60 "2017-04-04T13:52:53Z")
> [@Terry\_the\_Tramp](#): > > I wonder if the Scavengers will turn on Negan next season. Would be interesting to turn this into a three-way war. No way Alexandria could ever trust the Scavengers again which could be exactly what happens. That’s the problem with treachery; it only works once. _No one_ is going to trust you again after that. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-7-16-the-first-day-of-the-rest-of-your-life-open-spoilers/783622.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-7-16-the-first-day-of-the-rest-of-your-life-open-spoilers/783622.md?page=4)