# The Walking Dead; 8.01 "Mercy" (open spoilers)

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [October 22, 2017, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-8-01-mercy-open-spoilers/799597 "2017-10-22T22:07:12Z")\
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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2017, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-8-01-mercy-open-spoilers/799597/1 "2017-10-22T22:07:12Z")

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I didn’t see a thread, so I figured I’d start one just to alert folks that Season 8 starts tonight. Let’s hope the new season is a good one!

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2017, 10:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-8-01-mercy-open-spoilers/799597/2 "2017-10-22T22:14:15Z")

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My friend is in it, though I know nothing about it. I think he is going to be one of Negan’s gang. I tried to spot him last year in the final episode, but in a funny coincidence, he doesn’t get AMC and hasn’t seen the episodes to spot himself.

Anyway, he filmed a ton this year and is in quite a few, I believe.

[Here is his IMDB.](http://www.imdb.com/name/nm8731687/reference)

He was also in Stranger Things last year. Neat.

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**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2017, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-8-01-mercy-open-spoilers/799597/3 "2017-10-22T22:41:34Z")

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The only review I’ve seen so far is that this season is ho-hum at best, with the same old tired predicaments and stupid behavior and gasbag Negan trying to be all evil up in that shit, but not really succeeding. I think I’m done.

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**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2017, 10:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-8-01-mercy-open-spoilers/799597/4 "2017-10-22T22:54:46Z")

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Oh no…give it a chance, I am happy, happy about the new season! I predict an amazing time for all! Fixin’ to pop the corn!

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**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2017, 1:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-8-01-mercy-open-spoilers/799597/5 "2017-10-23T01:06:13Z")

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> [@AMC](#):
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> Rick, the Kingdom and the Hilltop bring the fight to Negan and the Saviors.

Season 8 premiers tonight; it looks like they’re picking up right where the last episode left off. Andrew Lincoln and Norman Reedus, Robert Kirkman, Scott M. Gimple, Greg Nicotero, Gale Anne Hurd, David Alpert, and some surprise cast members are on **Talking Dead**.

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2017, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-8-01-mercy-open-spoilers/799597/6 "2017-10-23T01:59:29Z")

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Well, how was it?

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**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2017, 2:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-8-01-mercy-open-spoilers/799597/7 "2017-10-23T02:00:59Z")

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Yay!

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**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2017, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-8-01-mercy-open-spoilers/799597/8 "2017-10-23T02:19:46Z")

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> [@Mahaloth](#):
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> My friend is in it, though I know nothing about it. I think he is going to be one of Negan’s gang. I tried to spot him last year in the final episode, but in a funny coincidence, he doesn’t get AMC and hasn’t seen the episodes to spot himself.
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> Anyway, he filmed a ton this year and is in quite a few, I believe.
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> [Here is his IMDB.](http://www.imdb.com/name/nm8731687/reference)
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> He was also in Stranger Things last year. Neat.

I looked for him but I didn’t see him. Episode was about what you would expect, Rick’s plan was better than I thought it would be and Negan’s defenses way worse.

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**Author:** ![UltraVires](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/ecccb3/32.png) [@UltraVires](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UltraVires)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2017, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-8-01-mercy-open-spoilers/799597/9 "2017-10-23T02:27:27Z")

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So our heroes are about 75 yards away from Negan with rifles, of all things, and instead of putting one between his eyes, they waste thousands of rounds of ammo by shooting out all of the factory windows because of ???

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2017, 2:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-8-01-mercy-open-spoilers/799597/10 "2017-10-23T02:41:53Z")

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> [@DigitalC](#):
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> I looked for him but I didn’t see him. Episode was about what you would expect, Rick’s plan was better than I thought it would be and Negan’s defenses way worse.

I’ll watch it tomorrow and have a look.

And, oh, it appears he is in \*this coming \*season of Stranger Things(episode 7), not last year’s.

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**Author:** ![Quimby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/22d042/32.png) [@Quimby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quimby)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2017, 2:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-8-01-mercy-open-spoilers/799597/11 "2017-10-23T02:46:47Z")

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I’m curious if their plan was presented clearly. It mirrored what happened in the comics so I understood what was happening but I wonder if someone who never read the comics could follow what Rick and his group did.

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**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2017, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-8-01-mercy-open-spoilers/799597/12 "2017-10-23T02:47:27Z")

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Oddly **Talking Dead** is a double length episode despite the season premiere being a regular length episode.

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**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2017, 2:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-8-01-mercy-open-spoilers/799597/13 "2017-10-23T02:56:20Z")

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I don’t understand why Rick’s people thought it was more important to shoot out windows than Negan and his lieutenants. That bit of ridiculousness pushed me deep into “Liked it” territory, and almost into the “Meh” zone.

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**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2017, 3:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-8-01-mercy-open-spoilers/799597/14 "2017-10-23T03:01:44Z")

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Rick is getting into Negan’s head, obviously.

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**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2017, 3:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-8-01-mercy-open-spoilers/799597/15 "2017-10-23T03:23:20Z")

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I think it was great!!. Rick has a plan, no worries, wait and see!

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**Author:** ![Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eyebrows_0f_doom/32/3119_2.png) [@Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eyebrows_0f_Doom)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2017, 3:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-8-01-mercy-open-spoilers/799597/16 "2017-10-23T03:26:39Z")

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> [@Quimby](#):
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> I’m curious if their plan was presented clearly. It mirrored what happened in the comics so I understood what was happening but I wonder if someone who never read the comics could follow what Rick and his group did.

Not really. I have no idea why they wasted so many bullets shooting out windows instead of someone simply shooting Negan in the head. He was standing out there unprotected on the balcony for quite a while…

Too many timelines happening simultaneously. I hope the flash forward of Rick & family all happy and sunshiney isn’t simply what it shows because knowing people survive before the battle even happens makes it all rather meh.

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**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2017, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-8-01-mercy-open-spoilers/799597/17 "2017-10-23T03:36:31Z")

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You saw him closing his eyes and looking at the sun, It was a daydream, clearly!

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**Author:** ![Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eyebrows_0f_doom/32/3119_2.png) [@Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eyebrows_0f_Doom)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2017, 3:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-8-01-mercy-open-spoilers/799597/18 "2017-10-23T03:37:56Z")

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> [@Beckdawrek](#):
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> You saw him closing his eyes and looking at the sun, It was a daydream, clearly!

What? No, those are two separate timelines.

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**Author:** ![Patch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/a183cd/32.png) [@Patch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Patch)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2017, 4:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-8-01-mercy-open-spoilers/799597/19 "2017-10-23T04:28:27Z")

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Still watching. I really hope they don’t go _A-Team_ on me and have the sheet metal panels mounted on cars be bulletproof.

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**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2017, 4:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-8-01-mercy-open-spoilers/799597/20 "2017-10-23T04:32:50Z")

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Stop talking and start shooting!

Not the windows you idiot. Neegan!

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