# The Walking Dead; 8.02 "The Damned" (open spoilers) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [October 29, 2017, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-8-02-the-damned-open-spoilers/800190 "2017-10-29T22:39:44Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2017, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-8-02-the-damned-open-spoilers/800190/1 "2017-10-29T22:39:44Z")
> [@AMC](#): > > The allied communities enact a plan; Rick encounters a familiar face. Alanna Masterson, Tom Payne, Scott M. Gimple, & Chris Sullivan are on **Talking Dead**. ---
**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2017, 1:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-8-02-the-damned-open-spoilers/800190/2 "2017-10-30T01:06:14Z")
Here it is! ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2017, 1:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-8-02-the-damned-open-spoilers/800190/3 "2017-10-30T01:50:25Z")
Didn’t they “enact a plan” last week? ---
**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2017, 2:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-8-02-the-damned-open-spoilers/800190/4 "2017-10-30T02:02:37Z")
The plan is moving along…hows Rick gonna get out of this?hmmmm ---
**Author:** ![Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eyebrows_0f_doom/32/3119_2.png) [@Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eyebrows_0f_Doom)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2017, 3:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-8-02-the-damned-open-spoilers/800190/5 "2017-10-30T03:21:31Z")
I’m sick of this show trying so hard to be “artistic.” Couldn’t we have had less slow motion close up montages of every main character and more, I don’t know, story? Are we supposed to know who Morales is? ---
**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2017, 3:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-8-02-the-damned-open-spoilers/800190/6 "2017-10-30T03:37:37Z")
I knew who he was. ---
**Author:** ![Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eyebrows_0f_doom/32/3119_2.png) [@Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eyebrows_0f_Doom)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2017, 4:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-8-02-the-damned-open-spoilers/800190/7 "2017-10-30T04:35:47Z")
And that would be…? ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2017, 5:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-8-02-the-damned-open-spoilers/800190/8 "2017-10-30T05:04:42Z")
> [@Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](#): > > Couldn’t we have had less slow motion close up montages of every main character and more, I don’t know, story? That was pretty bad. But not as bad as Rick and Darrel deciding to split up. What could go wrong with that? How many times are they going to use the trope of someone letting an enemy live, and then the enemy turns on them? ---
**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2017, 5:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-8-02-the-damned-open-spoilers/800190/9 "2017-10-30T05:35:27Z")
> [@Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](#): > > And that would be…? He was in the first season, he left the group, him his wfe and child, after Rick found the group. ---
**Author:** ![gytalf2000](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ac91a4/32.png) [@gytalf2000](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gytalf2000)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2017, 12:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-8-02-the-damned-open-spoilers/800190/10 "2017-10-30T12:52:42Z")
> [@Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](#): > > I’m sick of this show trying so hard to be “artistic.” Couldn’t we have had less slow motion close up montages of every main character and more, I don’t know, story? > > Are we supposed to know who Morales is? Same here! Usually the “artsy” stuff in this show leaves a lot to be desired. Just falls flat, as far as I’m concerned. And I didn’t remember Morales, either. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2017, 2:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-8-02-the-damned-open-spoilers/800190/11 "2017-10-30T14:23:51Z")
> [@gytalf2000](#): > > Same here! Usually the “artsy” stuff in this show leaves a lot to be desired. Just falls flat, as far as I’m concerned. > > And I didn’t remember Morales, either. If ever there was a time when a quick flashback would have been helpful, that was it. ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2017, 2:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-8-02-the-damned-open-spoilers/800190/12 "2017-10-30T14:50:51Z")
I remembered Morales because I thought him and his family were the most likely to “crossover” to fear the walking dead. ---
**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2017, 2:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-8-02-the-damned-open-spoilers/800190/13 "2017-10-30T14:55:04Z")
I am anxious to see Michone back in action. And what about that baby Gracie? it didn’t look real to me. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2017, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-8-02-the-damned-open-spoilers/800190/14 "2017-10-30T15:05:06Z")
> [@DigitalC](#): > > I remembered Morales because I thought him and his family were the most likely to “crossover” to fear the walking dead. OK, I have some vague memory of a family that decided to head out on their own. Was that them? But it would have been quite a feat to make it from the East Coast to the West Coast during the ZA. ---
**Author:** ![msmith537](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d9b06d/32.png) [@msmith537](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/msmith537)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2017, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-8-02-the-damned-open-spoilers/800190/15 "2017-10-30T15:07:12Z")
Is the plan that they use the zombie hoard to pin down the bulk of the Saviors in the Sanctuary while they go around wiping out the outposts? Because as usual, the show is terrible at conveying space and geography. > [@John Mace](#): > > How many times are they going to use the trope of someone letting an enemy live, and then the enemy turns on them? Seriously. How about securing their prisoner before having the ethical debates? Or just kill him. What’s one asshole more or less at this point? Overall, I found the episode to be kind of “meh”. The world’s most boring firefight. ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2017, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-8-02-the-damned-open-spoilers/800190/16 "2017-10-30T15:12:21Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > OK, I have some vague memory of a family that decided to head out on their own. Was that them? Yup, that was them. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2017, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-8-02-the-damned-open-spoilers/800190/17 "2017-10-30T15:13:46Z")
> [@DigitalC](#): > > Yup, that was them. Ah, good. I was sort of scratching my head wondering if he was one of the “Vatos”. ---
**Author:** ![Sam\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Sam\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Stone)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2017, 12:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-8-02-the-damned-open-spoilers/800190/18 "2017-10-31T00:29:56Z")
I voted ‘hated it’. Bad writing, cliches everywhere, impossible to follow what was going on, crazy plot armor for the main characters, etc. What was going on at the beginning? I thought maybe we missed an intro or something, because the show opened with what looked like our heros recovering from a flash-bang or something. That was never explained. ---
**Author:** ![Telperion](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telperion/32/509_2.png) [@Telperion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telperion)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2017, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-8-02-the-damned-open-spoilers/800190/19 "2017-10-31T00:42:57Z")
> [@Sam\_Stone](#): > > What was going on at the beginning? I thought maybe we missed an intro or something, because the show opened with what looked like our heros recovering from a flash-bang or something. That was never explained. One of the Saviors threw a grenade towards them in the last episode. I guess it was the same guy who got eaten by Shiva. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2017, 1:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-8-02-the-damned-open-spoilers/800190/20 "2017-10-31T13:21:48Z")
I used to enjoy _Talking Dead_, but both episodes so far this season were duds. The first one was completely unwatchable for anyone who isn’t a raving, teenage fan or something, and this last episode was just plain boring. They kept claiming that they needed to keep Negan alive because the plot demanded it, but that’s nonsense. Creative writers can easily take the storyline in a different direction. This seems more like laziness imposed by the producers-- _Hey, we have the cast in place for this season, so make it work._ [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-8-02-the-damned-open-spoilers/800190.md?page=2)