# The Walking Dead; 8.15 "Worth" (open spoilers)

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [April 9, 2018, 12:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-8-15-worth-open-spoilers/812045 "2018-04-09T00:19:32Z")\
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**Author:** ![Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eyebrows_0f_doom/32/3119_2.png) [@Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eyebrows_0f_Doom)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2018, 5:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-8-15-worth-open-spoilers/812045/21 "2018-04-10T05:36:33Z")

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Remind me why Aaron was stumbling around the woods not eating or drinking anything?

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**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2018, 6:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-8-15-worth-open-spoilers/812045/22 "2018-04-10T06:01:01Z")

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Cause he doing some character growth or some shit. He comes from some clean and easy background til Rick and crew came and screwed up Alex. I don’t know what he’s trying to do.  
You’re right about Darryl, he used to be cool as shit, he needs a love interest. Not Carol, she’s too old for him. More of a Mom.

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**Author:** ![Quimby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/22d042/32.png) [@Quimby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quimby)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2018, 11:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-8-15-worth-open-spoilers/812045/23 "2018-04-10T11:58:15Z")

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> [@Beckdawrek](#):
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> Cause he doing some character growth or some shit. He comes from some clean and easy background til Rick and crew came and screwed up Alex. I don’t know what he’s trying to do.  
> You’re right about Darryl, he used to be cool as shit, he needs a love interest. Not Carol, she’s too old for him. More of a Mom.

I can’t say why but I always assumed Darryl was gay. Closeted but gay. It might be because he has zero chemistry with women but it was something I assumed from very early on.

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2018, 12:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-8-15-worth-open-spoilers/812045/24 "2018-04-10T12:22:28Z")

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> [@Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](#):
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> Remind me why Aaron was stumbling around the woods not eating or drinking anything?

He is trying to convince the group of women to join in the war against Neegan.

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**Author:** ![SykoSkotty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c0e974/32.png) [@SykoSkotty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SykoSkotty)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2018, 12:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-8-15-worth-open-spoilers/812045/25 "2018-04-10T12:52:52Z")

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> [@Beckdawrek](#):
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> Cause he doing some character growth or some shit. He comes from some clean and easy background til Rick and crew came and screwed up Alex. I don’t know what he’s trying to do.  
> You’re right about Darryl, he used to be cool as shit, he needs a love interest. Not Carol, she’s too old for him. More of a Mom.

I vote for Rosita. I think they could make some pretty bad-ass Walker killing kids.

Ok, my thoughts on the episode:

- Aaron was falling over from exhaustion and dehydration. Is it a stupid kind of strategy to convince Oceanside to join the fight by starving yourself in the woods? Yes, but that does explain why he was so worn out while fighting the walkers in the mud.

- Daryl is an expert tracker…in the woods. On a city block after a few false footprints? I think that’s a little different.

All that aside, I do agree that the Negan story line is getting old and the show needs a new direction.

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2018, 1:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-8-15-worth-open-spoilers/812045/26 "2018-04-10T13:55:44Z")

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> [@Quimby](#):
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> I can’t say why but I always assumed Darryl was gay. Closeted but gay. It might be because he has zero chemistry with women but it was something I assumed from very early on.

He got the heat going with that young blonde chick a few seasons ago when they were traveling together. Can’t remember her name, but she died at the hospital. Was that Maggie’s younger sister?

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**Author:** ![Shakester](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shakester/32/437_2.png) [@Shakester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shakester)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2018, 2:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-8-15-worth-open-spoilers/812045/27 "2018-04-10T14:22:28Z")

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> [@John\_Mace](#):
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> He got the heat going with that young blonde chick a few seasons ago when they were traveling together. Can’t remember her name, but she died at the hospital. Was that Maggie’s younger sister?

Beth. Maggie’s half sister.

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**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2018, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-8-15-worth-open-spoilers/812045/28 "2018-04-10T14:53:05Z")

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> [@Quimby](#):
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> I can’t say why but I always assumed Darryl was gay. Closeted but gay. It might be because he has zero chemistry with women but it was something I assumed from very early on.

It was certainly considered:

[http://www.konbini.com/us/entertainment/walking-dead-norman-reedus-daryl-gay-storyline/](http://www.konbini.com/us/entertainment/walking-dead-norman-reedus-daryl-gay-storyline/)

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**Author:** ![Soylent\_Juicy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/82dd89/32.png) [@Soylent\_Juicy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Soylent_Juicy)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2018, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-8-15-worth-open-spoilers/812045/29 "2018-04-10T15:49:29Z")

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I checked out about 5 episodes ago, but what’s going on with Maggie these days? Has she had the baby yet? Is she even showing? Did she die in childbirth like Lori?

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**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2018, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-8-15-worth-open-spoilers/812045/30 "2018-04-10T16:07:12Z")

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Still pregnant. Not really showing.

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**Author:** ![Soylent\_Juicy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/82dd89/32.png) [@Soylent\_Juicy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Soylent_Juicy)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2018, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-8-15-worth-open-spoilers/812045/31 "2018-04-10T16:21:42Z")

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> [@Superdude](#):
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> Still pregnant. Not really showing.

Thank you. It’s been a while, eh?

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**Author:** ![salinqmind](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3ec8ea/32.png) [@salinqmind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/salinqmind)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2018, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-8-15-worth-open-spoilers/812045/32 "2018-04-10T16:27:09Z")

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I think Darryl had some early traumatic damage and in this messed-up world, no chance to overcome it through therapy, being there is none, nor would a wild redneck seek it out. That accounts for his hesitation or possible inability to grow, to feel, to love. Right now, all is chaos, within and without. I like his ambiguous state and wish people would stop trying to hook him up with a breeder, like a monkey in a zoo, like Noah’s ark two by two. If he turned out to be gay - AWESOME!

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**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2018, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-8-15-worth-open-spoilers/812045/33 "2018-04-10T16:30:12Z")

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> [@Soylent\_Juicy](#):
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> Thank you. It’s been a while, eh?

I think that baby will be old enough to just walk out of her womb.

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**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2018, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-8-15-worth-open-spoilers/812045/34 "2018-04-10T16:32:24Z")

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So Negan knows there are people with access to a working helicopter that show up when trash lady shoots a flare, you’d think he’d be a little interested in that.

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**Author:** ![msmith537](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d9b06d/32.png) [@msmith537](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/msmith537)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2018, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-8-15-worth-open-spoilers/812045/35 "2018-04-10T19:17:02Z")

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> [@Beckdawrek](#):
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> Well, Morgan don’t die. Or so he says. Send him in. There’s no reason they couldn’t sniper Negan dead. Hell, Carol could do it. They have had plenty of chances. The writers are obviously milking this story arc.

They could have sniped Negan and the rest of the Saviors when they had their compound surrounded with zombies and snipers. Or instead of just crashing a truck through the Sanctuary, how about a truck full of gasoline and then blow it up? I feel like at least once a season they blow up a tanker truck.

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**Author:** ![gytalf2000](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ac91a4/32.png) [@gytalf2000](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gytalf2000)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2018, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-8-15-worth-open-spoilers/812045/36 "2018-04-10T19:26:27Z")

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> [@carnivorousplant](#):
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> He is trying to convince the group of women to join in the war against Neegan.

Yes. By staying in the woods by himself. Great plan!

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2018, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-8-15-worth-open-spoilers/812045/37 "2018-04-10T19:51:49Z")

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> [@msmith537](#):
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> They could have sniped Negan and the rest of the Saviors when they had their compound surrounded with zombies and snipers. Or instead of just crashing a truck through the Sanctuary, how about a truck full of gasoline and then blow it up? I feel like at least once a season they blow up a tanker truck.

I imagine that they are following the comic.

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**Author:** ![Half\_Man\_Half\_Wit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/half_man_half_wit/32/21766_2.png) [@Half\_Man\_Half\_Wit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Half_Man_Half_Wit)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2018, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-8-15-worth-open-spoilers/812045/38 "2018-04-10T20:11:33Z")

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Well at least it’s not just Rick’s group that acts inexplicably stupid upon every chance to kill Negan, it seems everyone does. He must have some weapons grade Steve Jobs reality distortion field or something…

I mean, sure, let’s have our conspiratorial meeting out in broad daylight where we have no chance at all to control who sees us, or any hope of surveying all routes of approach, as opposed to, you know, in a room with a goddamn door somewhere!

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**Author:** ![mistymage](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mistymage/32/459_2.png) [@mistymage](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mistymage)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2018, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-8-15-worth-open-spoilers/812045/39 "2018-04-10T21:56:11Z")

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> [@Beckdawrek](#):
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> You’re right about Darryl, he used to be cool as shit, he needs a love interest. Not Carol, she’s too old for him. More of a Mom.

Carol (well, Melissa McBride) is only 4 years older than Norman Reedus (Daryl).

I really don’t “get” having sex during a ZA except for the few times the groups are in places with water (whether running, in barrels, hot or cold). Sometimes you can just smell the crew through the tv whether because of zombie splatters or knowing they are filming in the South during hot humid summers. Throw in the fun chance of getting pregnant and trying to waddle away from a horde. Or having a crying baby lure in a horde. No thanks.

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**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2018, 12:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-8-15-worth-open-spoilers/812045/40 "2018-04-11T00:33:31Z")

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Once again, you guys are summing up a lot of my complaints with the show. Have we ever had a season as full of faux pithy soliloquys as this one? When Carl was dying, it was like watching PeeWee Herman’s death scene from “Buffy the Vampire Slayer” (the movie) - just fucking get on with it already, would you?

And watching Chris Hardwick splooge all over them for an hour afterwards, because I’m so confused by what I just saw that I am desperately hoping for some explanations…If you’re wondering why I’m still watching the show, trust me, I am, too. I think the term “sunk costs” comes into play.

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