# The Walking Dead; 8.16 "Wrath" (open spoilers) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [April 15, 2018, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-8-16-wrath-open-spoilers/812466 "2018-04-15T22:35:41Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![rainy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c2a13f/32.png) [@rainy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rainy)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2018, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-8-16-wrath-open-spoilers/812466/21 "2018-04-16T20:16:32Z")
> [@carnivorousplant](#): > > What did Eugene use for primers, did they find reloader supplies? He machined them, because in TWD universe you need a machine shop to reload cartridges. šŸ˜‘ ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2018, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-8-16-wrath-open-spoilers/812466/22 "2018-04-16T21:32:12Z")
> [@rainy](#): > > He machined them, because in TWD universe you need a machine shop to reload cartridges. šŸ˜‘ I donā€™t know what explodes in a primer, but I sure as hell wouldnā€™t let Gabriel within a mile of it in any amount, let alone the pounds of it that must have been present to do all those reloads. Am I correct that reloaders buy the primers as a completed piece and just put them into the cartridge? ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2018, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-8-16-wrath-open-spoilers/812466/23 "2018-04-16T21:41:08Z")
Grading on a curve, this was almost an OK episode, although the fake killing of Negan was just stupid. Especially since the only reason Rick didnā€™t kill him was because of Carls stupid teenage letter, but Iā€™m sure Carl didnā€™t mean to have Rick put in prison for life. The battle scenes were about as atrocious as any so far. Iā€™ll just say that Iā€™m glad they are sending Morgan over to _Fear_ so I can not watch him on that show. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2018, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-8-16-wrath-open-spoilers/812466/24 "2018-04-16T21:54:04Z")
> [@carnivorousplant](#): > > What did Eugene use for primers, did they find reloader supplies? Maybe he found a bunch of them that people didnā€™t scavenge because they didnā€™t have, or know how to use, reloading dies. The primer caps themselves can easily be made. Get some copper sheet, drill a hole in a block of steel. Use a punch to make the cup. Iā€™m sure the anvil would be pretty easy too. The explosive could be [mercury(II) fulminate](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercury(II)_fulminate), which is non-corrosve but will break down after a whileā€¦ > [@](#): > > Mercury(II) fulminate is prepared by dissolving mercury in nitric acid and adding ethanol to the solution. It was first prepared by Edward Charles Howard in 1800.[ ā€¦ or potassium chlorate or potassium perchlorate. ---
**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2018, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-8-16-wrath-open-spoilers/812466/25 "2018-04-16T22:16:27Z")
> [@carnivorousplant](#): > > They had a boat to get there. What will Morgan do it, hitch hike? He ran, so he said. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2018, 10:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-8-16-wrath-open-spoilers/812466/26 "2018-04-16T22:30:58Z")
I havenā€™t watched _Fear The Walking Dead_ yet, nor _The Talking Dead_. Soā€¦ in FTWD, that all takes place before Morgan came to Georgia, right? ---
**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2018, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-8-16-wrath-open-spoilers/812466/27 "2018-04-16T22:41:55Z")
Fear has skipped forward in time so itā€™s now taking place after the events of this episode of TWD. Sent from my SM-G965U using Tapatalk ---
**Author:** ![UltraVires](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/ecccb3/32.png) [@UltraVires](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UltraVires)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2018, 10:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-8-16-wrath-open-spoilers/812466/28 "2018-04-16T22:47:46Z")
> [@Johnny\_L.A](#): > > I havenā€™t watched _Fear The Walking Dead_ yet, nor _The Talking Dead_. Soā€¦ in FTWD, that all takes place before Morgan came to Georgia, right? No, it starts right after the season finale of TWD. ---
**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2018, 10:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-8-16-wrath-open-spoilers/812466/29 "2018-04-16T22:58:44Z")
Yea, Morgan is meeting them right after he left the junk yard. He had time to grow an eggplant while there. And he walked (ran) many miles and seasons were passing so several months at least. Who really knows though, presumably the writers have a handle on it. ---
**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2018, 11:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-8-16-wrath-open-spoilers/812466/30 "2018-04-16T23:09:21Z")
Eugene turns out to be the hero. Who woulda thunk it after he had just escaped from Daryl and Rosita? Josh McDermitt, what an actor! It appears that Maggie, Jesus, and Daryl are plotting to kill Negan. And maybe anyone who stands in their way. Negan gets to spend his natural lifetime, or until Maggie kills him, in Morganā€™s homemade cell in Alexandria. Jadis/Anne gets to join the remaining Saviors, Oceansiders, Alexandrians, the Kingdomā€™s survivors, along with anyone else who happens to wander by. I expect to see majestic bronze Ricks popping up in every town. Morgan lives in the junkyard long enough to raise eggplants, and then heads West. How long does it take for him to reach Austin, Tx? (Iā€™m told this is the area where FTWD is actually being filmed now.) ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2018, 11:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-8-16-wrath-open-spoilers/812466/31 "2018-04-16T23:26:18Z")
Iā€™m obviously mis-remembering something - didnā€™t Rick show up with a bullet in his side at one point this season? Was that ever explained? ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2018, 11:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-8-16-wrath-open-spoilers/812466/32 "2018-04-16T23:29:43Z")
> [@Cat\_Whisperer](#): > > Iā€™m obviously mis-remembering something - didnā€™t Rick show up with a bullet in his side at one point this season? Was that ever explained? That happened last night, he got injured in the fighting I guess but they didnā€™t show it. He was obviously hurt during the confrontation with Negan though, thatā€™s why Negan was so confident. ---
**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2018, 11:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-8-16-wrath-open-spoilers/812466/33 "2018-04-16T23:36:36Z")
I donā€™t think it was a bullet. Negan kicked him a couple of times. At the beginning of this season they showed Rick sitting under the tree, bleeding from his side. But that was that weird time jump they kept showing. Now weā€™re all caught up. The last time he got shot Jadis did it when she double crossed him with Negan. Something I donā€™t understand, when they were walking in the field and they looked out over the field and Rick said ā€œthings are changingā€. What were they looking at? ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2018, 12:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-8-16-wrath-open-spoilers/812466/34 "2018-04-17T00:01:40Z")
> [@UltraVires](#): > > No, it starts right after the season finale of TWD. But FTWD takes place at least two years before TWD. So are they going to skip over everything in FTWD and fast-forward two (or more) years? ---
**Author:** ![Biffster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biffster/32/339_2.png) [@Biffster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffster)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2018, 12:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-8-16-wrath-open-spoilers/812466/35 "2018-04-17T00:17:50Z")
> [@Johnny\_L.A](#): > > But FTWD takes place at least two years before TWD. So are they going to skip over everything in FTWD and fast-forward two (or more) years? So it would seem. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2018, 1:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-8-16-wrath-open-spoilers/812466/36 "2018-04-17T01:25:50Z")
> [@doorhinge](#): > > Morgan lives in the junkyard long enough to raise eggplants, and then heads West. How long does it take for him to reach Austin, Tx? (Iā€™m told this is the area where FTWD is actually being filmed now.) I missed that, but it was referenced on the Talking Dead. Please bring me up to speed. ---
**Author:** ![ElderSign](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eldersign/32/8263_2.png) [@ElderSign](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElderSign)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2018, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-8-16-wrath-open-spoilers/812466/37 "2018-04-17T01:52:29Z")
Hentor said everything. ---
**Author:** ![Shakester](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shakester/32/437_2.png) [@Shakester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shakester)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2018, 5:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-8-16-wrath-open-spoilers/812466/38 "2018-04-17T05:22:04Z")
> [@Beckdawrek](#): > > Something I donā€™t understand, when they were walking in the field and they looked out over the field and Rick said ā€œthings are changingā€. What were they looking at? It was hard to tell, but Iā€™m pretty sure they were looking at a bazillion walkers off in the distance. ---
**Author:** ![One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/838e76/32.png) [@One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/One_And_Only_Wanderers)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2018, 7:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-8-16-wrath-open-spoilers/812466/39 "2018-04-17T07:43:04Z")
Yeah, something about the largest herd ever, but I couldnā€™t see shit either. ---
**Author:** ![Mean\_Mr.Mustard](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mean_mr.mustard/32/3865_2.png) [@Mean\_Mr.Mustard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mean_Mr.Mustard)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2018, 9:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-8-16-wrath-open-spoilers/812466/40 "2018-04-17T09:49:07Z")
How is Negan \*not \*dead? The amount of blood gushing through his throat did not look like an indication that he would survive. And how did everyone know, instantly, that the wound was not fatal? It seemed to be obvious to everyone there that Negan lives. What is up with the two stained glass frames hanging from the tree? I know we saw them in a foreshadowing, but who put them there, and why? How did Rick get the piece of glass out of one of them? mmm [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-8-16-wrath-open-spoilers/812466.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-8-16-wrath-open-spoilers/812466.md?page=3)