# The Walking Dead: season 9 (open spoilers)

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**Created:** [October 7, 2018, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-season-9-open-spoilers/822628 "2018-10-07T23:32:46Z")\
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**Author:** ![CannyDan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cannydan/32/548_2.png) [@CannyDan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CannyDan)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2018, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-season-9-open-spoilers/822628/81 "2018-10-29T21:42:39Z")

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Agreed, more stupid things done for no reasonable justification. An ongoing problem with this series.

A smaller issue, but one that has annoyed me as far back as I can remember, seems to have intensified of late. Why are so many conversations conducted in whispers? OK, fine when you don’t want to wake the sleeping child in the other room. But normal people have normal conversations in normal tones. Not our protagonists! Annoys the hell out of me and just takes me further out of the action and plot. Anybody else notice this or just me?

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**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2018, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-season-9-open-spoilers/822628/82 "2018-10-29T21:49:33Z")

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> [@EllisDee](#):
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> Do you have a link to an announcement? Are you sure you aren’t mixing up the announcement that 4 characters from TWD were going to be on FtWD? (The first episode last season Morgan receives visits from Rick, Carol and Jesus before leaving to go West.)
> 
> Morgan is not on his way to Virginia, nor is anybody else. In the finale, he decided not to go to Virginia, but instead to take over the box duty from the guy from Mississippi or wherever. The last scene of the finale was them settling into their new base of operations.
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> Googling around, I could find no announcement of the two shows merging. I found a lot of blog posts speculating that they would, but those were written during the previous season when the characters were still saying that they were going to Virginia. Again, I can’t emphasize this enough: The characters on FtWD decided NOT to go to Virginia at the end of the finale, and instead set up shop in the South.
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> That googling did reveal that the FtWD rating are in the shitter, though. They’ve been renewed for a fifth season, but it’s unlikely that they’ll get a sixth. So the series finale could have them go to Virginia. Is that what you mean when you say “merging” the shows?

Nicotero announced it on Talking Dead awhile ago. Sorry no links. Maybe I misheard, but I don’t think so. Morgan and the box thing is a side hustle, and furthermore the truck blew up. No boxes.

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**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2018, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-season-9-open-spoilers/822628/83 "2018-10-30T02:15:38Z")

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Who was “random Asian guy” riding with Maggie at the beginning of episode 3?

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**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2018, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-season-9-open-spoilers/822628/84 "2018-10-30T02:31:46Z")

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> [@Superdude](#):
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> Who was “random Asian guy” riding with Maggie at the beginning of episode 3?

No name as far as I know. He lives at the hilltop.

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**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2018, 3:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-season-9-open-spoilers/822628/85 "2018-10-30T03:02:06Z")

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> [@Beckdawrek](#):
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> Maybe I misheard, but I don’t think so. Morgan and the box thing is a side hustle, and furthermore the truck blew up. No boxes.

I think either you misheard, or it was during the season and Nicotero was playing up the characters’ misdirect of “Let’s go to Virginia!”

Remember at the end of the finale, when they found the factory that supplied the original truck guy? They don’t need his truck, because they found the source of the supplies. The final scene was them sending out a caravan to distribute those newly-found supplies.

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**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2018, 3:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-season-9-open-spoilers/822628/86 "2018-10-30T03:30:28Z")

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Regarding this episode, yeah, it was terrible.

The pit thing with the zombies falling into it was a cool idea, and visually interesting. It would have made a great webisode or maybe one of those red machete vignettes. But it felt super contrived the way they introduced it. Are there countless giant holes all over that road, or was it a “struck by lightning” miracle that Rick just happened to get Daryl to stop the motorcycle right next to it?

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**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2018, 3:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-season-9-open-spoilers/822628/87 "2018-10-30T03:39:19Z")

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I thought for a minute they had dug it just to keep Rick away til they killed Negan. And Daryl fell in accidently. But I guess they expect you to believe it just happened to be there. I guess it could’ve been.

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**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2018, 3:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-season-9-open-spoilers/822628/88 "2018-10-30T03:40:28Z")

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> [@EllisDee](#):
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> I think either you misheard, or it was during the season and Nicotero was playing up the characters’ misdirect of “Let’s go to Virginia!”
> 
> Remember at the end of the finale, when they found the factory that supplied the original truck guy? They don’t need his truck, because they found the source of the supplies. The final scene was them sending out a caravan to distribute those newly-found supplies.

Ok.

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**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2018, 1:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-season-9-open-spoilers/822628/89 "2018-10-31T13:40:30Z")

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Does anyone know if this is the last season? I want to watch until the end, but the characters just keep getting stupider and stupider.

And the writers STILL have zombies “sneaking up” on people? GAH does that annoy me!

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2018, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-season-9-open-spoilers/822628/90 "2018-10-31T13:53:09Z")

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> [@Slash1972](#):
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> And the writers STILL have zombies “sneaking up” on people? GAH does that annoy me!

To be fair, they’re as quiet as the dead.

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**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2018, 2:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-season-9-open-spoilers/822628/91 "2018-10-31T14:11:03Z")

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> [@Johnny\_L.A](#):
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> To be fair, they’re as quiet as the dead.

🙂

But that’s just it, they are NOT quiet. They are moaning and whatnot and slow. And somehow sneak up on people. Grinds my gears!

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**Author:** ![Shakester](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shakester/32/437_2.png) [@Shakester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shakester)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2018, 3:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-season-9-open-spoilers/822628/92 "2018-11-01T03:24:28Z")

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> [@Superdude](#):
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> Who was “random Asian guy” riding with Maggie at the beginning of episode 3?

Character name is Kal, portrayed by [James Chen](https://www.imdb.com/name/nm1429853/).

He’s been in the show for the last couple of seasons, usually in the background at Hilltop, but has had a few lines here and there.

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**Author:** ![Mean\_Mr.Mustard](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mean_mr.mustard/32/3865_2.png) [@Mean\_Mr.Mustard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mean_Mr.Mustard)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2018, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-season-9-open-spoilers/822628/93 "2018-11-01T19:34:36Z")

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Regarding Rick and Darryl in the hole - it would have made much more sense, and be safer, if they would have let the walkers tumble down, ice-pick them (so to speak) as they arrive, then build a walker scaffold to climb up and out when there are enough to stack up.  
mmm

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**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2018, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-season-9-open-spoilers/822628/94 "2018-11-01T19:41:05Z")

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I thought for sure they were going to do that, at least it seemed like a little bit smart of a plan. But nope, instead, let’s hang from roots hoping we don’t fall into the pit of the dead.

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**Author:** ![CannyDan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cannydan/32/548_2.png) [@CannyDan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CannyDan)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2018, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-season-9-open-spoilers/822628/95 "2018-11-01T19:57:32Z")

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> [@Mean\_Mr.Mustard](#):
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> Regarding Rick and Darryl in the hole - it would have made much more sense, and be safer, if they would have let the walkers tumble down, ice-pick them (so to speak) as they arrive, then build a walker scaffold to climb up and out when there are enough to stack up.
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> mmm

Or take that hand ax Rick keeps on his belt and cut a set of hand- and foot-holds into the wall, then just climb out. But _no-o-o-o-o!_

> [@Slash1972](#):
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> [snip] …instead, let’s hang from roots hoping we don’t fall into the pit of the dead.

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**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2018, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-season-9-open-spoilers/822628/96 "2018-11-01T20:03:09Z")

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> [@CannyDan](#):
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> Or take that hand ax Rick keeps on his belt and cut a set of hand- and foot-holds into the wall, then just climb out. But _no-o-o-o-o!_

Yeah, I actually thought to myself - Rick must not carry that ax around anymore or he’d be using it to cut holes in the dirt.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2018, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-season-9-open-spoilers/822628/97 "2018-11-01T20:37:27Z")

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> [@CannyDan](#):
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> Or take that hand ax Rick keeps on his belt and cut a set of hand- and foot-holds into the wall, then just climb out. But _no-o-o-o-o!_

This was my first thought.

> [@Mean\_Mr.Mustard](#):
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> \*t would have made much more sense, and be safer, if they would have let the walkers tumble down, ice-pick them (so to speak) as they arrive, then build a walker scaffold to climb up and out when there are enough to stack up.

This was my second thought.

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**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2018, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-season-9-open-spoilers/822628/98 "2018-11-01T21:01:39Z")

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There was one scene where Daryl did stack a body or 3 up to reach a root. And then the big scene when Rick called him ‘brother’, so sweet, wrong time for a sentimental exchange, clearly.

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**Post date:** [November 4, 2018, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-season-9-open-spoilers/822628/99 "2018-11-04T21:27:57Z")

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Getting the beer and the chips ready for tonight’s Rick finale. Any thoughts on how he will die?

1. Bitten by walkers as set up by last week’s episode.
2. Survives the horde, but dies of internal injuries.
3. Doesn’t die but is tired of all of the fighting and goes into a self-imposed exile and/or is forced into exile by Maggie.
4. Something else.

I hope not, but I pick #3. I think that they do not kill Rick.

ETA:

1. Rick makes it back to Alexandria and is executed by Maggie. This causes Maggie’s disappearance later in the season. (Probably not going to happen, but would be a ballsy move by the writers).

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2018, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-season-9-open-spoilers/822628/100 "2018-11-04T22:37:08Z")

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> [@UltraVires](#):
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> 1. Bitten by walkers as set up by last week’s episode.
> 2. Survives the horde, but dies of internal injuries.
> 3. Doesn’t die but is tired of all of the fighting and goes into a self-imposed exile and/or is forced into exile by Maggie.
> 4. Something else.  
> .

3 or something like 3 has been my guess. I also think they will not kill him and have thought so since he announced he was leaving.

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