# The War in Iraq is going Well; Discuss.
**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-war-in-iraq-is-going-well-discuss/206646
**Category:** Great Debates
**Created:** [October 10, 2003, 10:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-war-in-iraq-is-going-well-discuss/206646 "2003-10-10T10:42:25Z")
**Posts on this page:** 9
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### Author:  [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)
#### Post date: [October 19, 2003, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-war-in-iraq-is-going-well-discuss/206646/121 "2003-10-19T20:06:09Z")
In my long post near the top of the page, I linked to Bush’s statement that Iraqi oil production was nearing 2M barrels a day.
But further down in today’s CNN story about [the latest two US soldiers killed in Iraq](http://www.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/meast/10/19/sprj.irq.main/index.html), there are some comments from the Iraqi oil minister, Ibrahim Bahr al-Uloom:
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> Uloom acknowledged that attacks on Iraq’s oil pipelines are a problem, but insisted the industry has the means and the ability to keep production levels at about one million barrels a day.
Just a wee bit smaller than Bush was saying.
There’s always the possibility that Iraqi oil production was at the rate of “nearly two million barrels a day” for about fifteen minutes, then it dropped down to the million-barrel rate it could sustain. In which case, it wouldn’t be an outright lie, but just deliberately giving a misleading impression about the state of Iraqi oil production.
Is there _anything_ we can trust these guys on???
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### Author:  [@PatriotX](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PatriotX)
#### Post date: [October 19, 2003, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-war-in-iraq-is-going-well-discuss/206646/122 "2003-10-19T21:05:38Z")
Maybe it just peaked @ 2mil. Not the same as maintained or averaged.
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### Author:  [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)
#### Post date: [October 19, 2003, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-war-in-iraq-is-going-well-discuss/206646/123 "2003-10-19T22:09:31Z")
That’s pretty much my thinking, Simon. It’s just that if they can only sustain 1M bpd, it seems unlikely that they achieved anything near 2M bpd in a way that looked sustainable. And it’s hard to believe the Bushies didn’t know that.
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### Author:  [@PatriotX](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PatriotX)
#### Post date: [October 19, 2003, 11:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-war-in-iraq-is-going-well-discuss/206646/124 "2003-10-19T23:26:05Z")
It’s probably a “not-lie” then.
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### Author:  [@Rashak\_Mani](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rashak_Mani)
#### Post date: [October 20, 2003, 11:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-war-in-iraq-is-going-well-discuss/206646/125 "2003-10-20T11:04:07Z")
Still why import ? Lack of refineries ?
Even if they do manage 2 billion they are a resistance attack away from getting the pipeline blown up again.
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### Author:  [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)
#### Post date: [October 20, 2003, 11:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-war-in-iraq-is-going-well-discuss/206646/126 "2003-10-20T11:08:31Z")
If the Viet Cong could get fix a bridge we blew up in a few hours the most technologically advanced nation in the world can fix a freakin’ pipeline.
[http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A46700-2003Oct18?language=printer](http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A46700-2003Oct18?language=printer)
A Burger King is now open. See, that was the plot all along. The war was waged to sell hamburgers, not to steal oil!
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### Author:  [@Rashak\_Mani](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rashak_Mani)
#### Post date: [October 20, 2003, 11:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-war-in-iraq-is-going-well-discuss/206646/127 "2003-10-20T11:26:12Z")
Seems the burgers are more for US troops than anything else… 🙂 PR opp…
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### Author:  [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)
#### Post date: [October 20, 2003, 11:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-war-in-iraq-is-going-well-discuss/206646/128 "2003-10-20T11:30:00Z")
Yeah, but it will stay when we leave. Burgers are big business just about anywhere that beef is popular.
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### Author:  [@Rashak\_Mani](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rashak_Mani)
#### Post date: [October 20, 2003, 11:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-war-in-iraq-is-going-well-discuss/206646/129 "2003-10-20T11:47:52Z")
True… funny enough Burger King isnt big in Brazil. Seems McD dominated the local market.
Why is Burger King more expensive than McDonalds anyway ?
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