# The Warrior Diet **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [September 25, 2014, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-warrior-diet/699494 "2014-09-25T03:20:18Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![JohnClay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c37758/32.png) [@JohnClay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnClay)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2014, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-warrior-diet/699494/1 "2014-09-25T03:20:18Z")
There is a diet that is fairly popular with body-builders - the Warrior Diet. [http://www.warriordiet.com/](http://www.warriordiet.com/) On Monday I started it. It basically involves undereating during the day (e.g. some raw fruits and vegetables, soup, yoghurt) and overeating at night (preferably avoiding carbs esp sugar). A possible problem with ordinary fasting is muscle loss but this diet is good in that way apparently. Also it does what body-builders want - to lose a lot of fat so that their muscles are more visible. It specifically says that it is good for losing stubborn belly fat which is my goal. ---
**Author:** ![Ambivalid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a5b964/32.png) [@Ambivalid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ambivalid)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2014, 3:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-warrior-diet/699494/2 "2014-09-25T03:53:30Z")
From the link: “Its premise: eat one main meal at night, avoid chemicals, combine foods adequately and challenge your body physically. The Warrior Diet shows how to nourish the body in sync with its innate circadian clock – separating between a.m. foods and p.m. foods for effective removal of toxins, increased conversion of fat for energy, increased utilization of nutrients and improved resilience to stress.” This is _not_ a bodybuilder’s diet. ETA: This is a product of Joseph Mercola, huckster extraordinaire. ---
**Author:** ![JohnClay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c37758/32.png) [@JohnClay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnClay)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2014, 6:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-warrior-diet/699494/3 "2014-09-25T06:10:36Z")
> [@Ambivalid](#): > > …This is _not_ a bodybuilder’s diet… I did a google search for the following: bodybuilding “warrior diet” I got 34,200 results… > [@](#): > > ETA: This is a product of Joseph Mercola, huckster extraordinaire. No it is by Ori Hofmekler and it is recommended by Joseph Mercola… I did a google search for: “warrior diet” “Joseph Mercola” I got 6,080 results which suggests a much stronger connection to body building than Joseph Mercola… ---
**Author:** ![JohnClay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c37758/32.png) [@JohnClay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnClay)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2014, 6:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-warrior-diet/699494/4 "2014-09-25T06:15:47Z")
BTW I did a google search for: “body building” “warrior diet” Note the quotes make sure the words are right next to each other… I got 119,000 results! It means both terms are on the same page but don’t necessarily directly connect. ---
**Author:** ![JohnClay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c37758/32.png) [@JohnClay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnClay)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2014, 6:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-warrior-diet/699494/5 "2014-09-25T06:49:49Z")
I’ve been reading some comments about it here: > **[Freedieting](https://www.freedieting.com/)** > > Free diet plans and weight loss programs A lot of people are also saying that it helped their energy levels… BTW try searching for warrior diet on youtube - there are a lot of body builders… ---
**Author:** ![JohnClay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c37758/32.png) [@JohnClay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnClay)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2014, 7:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-warrior-diet/699494/6 "2014-09-25T07:08:41Z")
I just came across the “Renegade Diet” [http://www.renegadedietbook.com/](http://www.renegadedietbook.com/) > **[Renegade Diet Review: HORRIBLE HEALTH RISKS?](http://renegade-diet--review.blogspot.com/)** > > How Does Renegade Diet Works? Is It a SCAM? HEALTH RISKS? My SHOCKING Renegade Diet Review! > [@](#): > > …Your sixteen hours of no food and lots of water begin immediately you get into bed, the following four hours will require you to consume proteins that are easily digestible and fats that have limited amounts of carbs, mainly fruits. Workouts will normally be engaged in during these four hours. The last four hours is when you are allowed to eat all the calories that you want; you will need probiotics and prebiotics to enhance your digestion. This will be followed by vegetables, meats and carbs; exactly in that order… I’m not sure which diet I like better. Well the Warrior Diet seems a bit easier to do. I’m going to read the eBooks. ---
**Author:** ![Ambivalid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a5b964/32.png) [@Ambivalid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ambivalid)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2014, 7:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-warrior-diet/699494/7 "2014-09-25T07:28:33Z")
I see. Good luck. ---
**Author:** ![sandra\_nz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eada6e/32.png) [@sandra\_nz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sandra_nz)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2014, 7:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-warrior-diet/699494/8 "2014-09-25T07:31:59Z")
> [@Ambivalid](#): > > I see. Good luck. I think you just came up with the perfect response to anything posted by JC. Good luck, JC. ---
**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2014, 7:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-warrior-diet/699494/9 "2014-09-25T07:45:40Z")
Good luck. We’re all counting on you. ---
**Author:** ![JohnClay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c37758/32.png) [@JohnClay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnClay)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2014, 8:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-warrior-diet/699494/10 "2014-09-25T08:24:02Z")
Thanks! BTW > **[VIP Coaching Program](https://www.jay.training/vip-coaching-program1599417212900)** > > Here's Your Exclusive Invitation to the Most Powerful, Life-Changing Coaching Group on the Planet “18. How the models for the classic Greek statues got that ripped.” It’s interesting how “ripped” they are - and I suspect they didn’t do modern weight training… [![](https://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w164/MysticNinjaJay/bodyfatpercentagephases.jpg) ](https://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w164/MysticNinjaJay/bodyfatpercentagephases.jpg) According to the pic it looks like the Greeks in the statues had maybe 8% body fat. ---
**Author:** ![JohnClay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c37758/32.png) [@JohnClay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnClay)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2014, 8:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-warrior-diet/699494/11 "2014-09-25T08:31:39Z")
Another pic about fat % - 10% looks like what the statues had: [http://www.fitness-crazy.com/picts/bodyfat-chart-visual-men.jpg](http://www.fitness-crazy.com/picts/bodyfat-chart-visual-men.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![Penfeather](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/penfeather/32/384_2.png) [@Penfeather](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Penfeather)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2014, 8:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-warrior-diet/699494/12 "2014-09-25T08:50:02Z")
> [@JohnClay](#): > > It’s interesting how “ripped” they are - and I suspect they didn’t do modern weight training… > > According to the pic it looks like the Greeks in the statues had maybe 8% body fat. If only we knew the simple trick that made dermatologists hate them. ---
**Author:** ![JohnClay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c37758/32.png) [@JohnClay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnClay)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2014, 8:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-warrior-diet/699494/13 "2014-09-25T08:57:24Z")
From the “Renegade Diet” ebook: “…I read The Warrior Diet… for the first time when it was released in 2002… I only gave it a short run… although I was dropping bodyfat at a faster rate than ever before, I ended up getting weaker and smaller. That’s because Ori wasn’t as concerned with maximizing muscle mass… as many of us are. The Warrior Diet was geared more towards the average male or female who just wanted an easier way of getting in shape… I would have to make significant changes to Ori’s original system. So I started to experiment and play with it over the next few years.” ---
**Author:** ![JohnClay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c37758/32.png) [@JohnClay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnClay)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2014, 8:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-warrior-diet/699494/14 "2014-09-25T08:58:28Z")
> [@Penfeather](#): > > If only we knew the simple trick that made dermatologists hate them. Yeah their skin is pretty dry. ---
**Author:** ![JohnClay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c37758/32.png) [@JohnClay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnClay)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2014, 9:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-warrior-diet/699494/15 "2014-09-25T09:17:16Z")
Is that it? Because the statues are made of stone? Maybe I missed your point. ---
**Author:** ![Namkcalb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/c89c15/32.png) [@Namkcalb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Namkcalb)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2014, 10:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-warrior-diet/699494/16 "2014-09-25T10:09:02Z")
Leangains is better. The small meals in the warrior diet interupts the benefits of fast. That being said, sometimes I have some coconut oil. ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2014, 10:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-warrior-diet/699494/17 "2014-09-25T10:53:56Z")
Dude, do you even lift? ---
**Author:** ![JohnClay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c37758/32.png) [@JohnClay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnClay)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2014, 10:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-warrior-diet/699494/18 "2014-09-25T10:56:52Z")
> [@QuickSilver](#): > > Dude, do you even lift? Recently I used to do full chin-ups on my door frame-mounted chin-up bar… ---
**Author:** ![JohnClay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c37758/32.png) [@JohnClay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnClay)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2014, 11:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-warrior-diet/699494/19 "2014-09-25T11:07:39Z")
> [@Namkcalb](#): > > Leangains is better. I’ve come across that before but haven’t looked into it again lately… [http://www.leangains.com/2010/04/leangains-guide.html](http://www.leangains.com/2010/04/leangains-guide.html) “My general position on the fasted phase is that it should last through the night and during the morning hours. Ideally the fast should then be broken at noon or shortly thereafter…” “11.30-12 AM or 5-15 minutes pre-workout: 10 g BCAA 12-1 PM: Training 1 PM: Post-workout meal (largest meal of the day). 4 PM: Second meal. 9 PM: Last meal before the fast.” I think I’ll follow his advice about fasting to at least noon… but not about having the largest meal at 1 pm because where I live we have very big meals at about 6pm. > [@](#): > > The small meals in the warrior diet interupts the benefits of fast. I thought undereating involved snacks. But anyway I like the idea of fasting for some of the day. (Apparently fasting for days at a time can be problematic) > [@](#): > > That being said, sometimes I have some coconut oil. That reminds me - I’ve got a can of coconut cream that I think I’ll try. ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2014, 11:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-warrior-diet/699494/20 "2014-09-25T11:16:21Z")
Jokes aside, that’s great, JC. Chin-ups, dips, push ups, hanging leg raises, crunches and straddle squats are great exercises that anyone can do at home and achieve surprisingly great results. Add a pair of dumbells for curls and shouldders, and you’ve almost got yourself a full body routine without leaving the house. Run for the cardio portion of the program. The magic part of it is of course commitment, time and effort level. Less focus on diet fads, more focus on exercise - unless you’re someone who simply can’t decide whether or not a grilled chicken breast and salad is better for you than a bucket of fried chicken with three sides. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-warrior-diet/699494.md?page=2)