# The Washington Post: Democracy Dies With Us

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-washington-post-democracy-dies-with-us/1009210>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Tags:** trump\
**Created:** [October 25, 2024, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-washington-post-democracy-dies-with-us/1009210 "2024-10-25T17:30:09Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2024, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-washington-post-democracy-dies-with-us/1009210/321 "2024-11-08T02:17:00Z")

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Bezos: As a news publisher I have to be politically neutral  
Also Bezos:

> <https://x.com/JeffBezos/status/1854184441511571765>

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**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2024, 2:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-washington-post-democracy-dies-with-us/1009210/322 "2024-11-08T02:38:50Z")

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Jesus Christ, could he have his forked tongue deeper up Trump’s rectum?

Stranger

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**Author:** ![Typo\_Knig](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/cdc98d/32.png) [@Typo\_Knig](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Knig)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2024, 3:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-washington-post-democracy-dies-with-us/1009210/323 "2024-11-08T15:01:32Z")

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Also, WaPo has mandated full return to office (sorry, no cite). Which is really a way to get rid of staff without announcing layoffs. So even less reporting.

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**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2024, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-washington-post-democracy-dies-with-us/1009210/324 "2024-11-14T17:18:40Z")

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> [@RickJay](#):
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> I am sure that if Trump started off by ordered the military to go out and start shooting school buses with rocket launchers, they’d universally refuse. But that’s not how it’s going to go. It will always start, because it always does, on the edge of legality, citing things like “insurrection” and whatnot. Using the military to do things at the edge of the law. And the military WILL go along with it.

Former Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Gen Martin E. Dempsey largely agrees with you:

[ _Opinion: The right and left are talking about the military in dangerous ways_  
 _The U.S. military is busy enough. Stop dragging it into partisan politics_](https://wapo.st/3O5Msl0)

Stranger

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2024, 12:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-washington-post-democracy-dies-with-us/1009210/325 "2024-11-15T00:12:51Z")

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The Post is hosting a “global women’s summit” with featured speakers Lara Trump and Kellyanne Conway.

[![](https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_fullsize/plain/did:plc:ejihld4sywvvqwe67cdkn4jq/bafkreif5xdp2ysb3afjz3vcirbmf5nkbahqlyzqhissnb6552bxxnk4wca@jpeg) ](https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_fullsize/plain/did:plc:ejihld4sywvvqwe67cdkn4jq/bafkreif5xdp2ysb3afjz3vcirbmf5nkbahqlyzqhissnb6552bxxnk4wca@jpeg)

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2024, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-washington-post-democracy-dies-with-us/1009210/326 "2024-11-15T00:15:17Z")

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A fine summit for the extra-rich and/or extra-pretty.

The whole rest of female humanity? “Who cares?” Or so says that scurvy sponsoring outfit.

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**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2024, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-washington-post-democracy-dies-with-us/1009210/327 "2024-11-20T00:00:43Z")

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I, for one, welcome our new distilled spirit world’ers.  
Hopefully Nancy’ll get some veiled digs in on some of the other speakers.

ETA: When I first saw “The Post”, usually I think of the Washington one, but after seeing the speakers, I figured it was the NY one. And then I scrolled down.

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**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2024, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-washington-post-democracy-dies-with-us/1009210/328 "2024-11-20T20:50:32Z")

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> [@Guest-starring\_Id](#):
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> When I first saw “The Post”, usually I think of the Washington one, but after seeing the speakers, I figured it was the NY one. And then I scrolled down.

The _Washington Post_, much like CNN lately, appears to be working hard at appeasing the new regime.

May they get what they deserve.

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**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2024, 6:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-washington-post-democracy-dies-with-us/1009210/329 "2024-12-19T06:37:16Z")

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Who can you trust anymore??

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**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2024, 7:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-washington-post-democracy-dies-with-us/1009210/330 "2024-12-19T07:02:10Z")

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From what I’ve seen in the past twenty-five years, most Americans are ready to put their faith in [J. R. “Bob” Dobbs](https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/J._R._%22Bob%22_Dobbs):

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/Qt9MP70ODNw/hqdefault.jpg "SubGenius Commercial") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qt9MP70ODNw)

Stranger

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**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2024, 11:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-washington-post-democracy-dies-with-us/1009210/331 "2024-12-19T23:19:17Z")

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> [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](#):
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> From what I’ve seen in the past twenty-five years, most Americans are ready to put their faith in [J. R. “Bob” Dobbs](https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/J._R._%22Bob%22_Dobbs):

Dobbs is sometimes said to be a fluoride salesman; he will have his work cut out for him if RFK Jr. gets the power he seeks.

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**Author:** ![Chad\_Sudan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chad_sudan/32/4509_2.png) [@Chad\_Sudan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chad_Sudan)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2025, 12:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-washington-post-democracy-dies-with-us/1009210/332 "2025-01-04T12:17:46Z")

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The _Washington Post_ refused to run an editorial cartoon by Ann Telnaes that was directed at _Post_ owner Jeff Bezos. Telnaes has now resigned.

> **[Washington Post Cartoonist Quits After Jeff Bezos Cartoon Is Killed](https://www.nytimes.com/2025/01/03/business/media/washington-post-cartoonist-quits-after-jeff-bezos-cartoon-is-killed.html?unlocked_article_code=1.mk4.3_kz.YgAVC7ziPDev&smid=url-share)**
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> The cartoon, by Ann Telnaes, depicted the owner of The Post, Jeff Bezos, and other billionaires genuflecting toward a statue of President-elect Donald Trump.

The silencing of one cartoonist may not seem like a big deal. But Telnaes is truly one of the best out there today, with a style and approach evoking the days when editorial cartoons really mattered.

Now the _Post_ is left with right-wing cartoonist Michael Ramirez. Not only are his politics misguided, but Ramirez’s “humor” consistently fails to land, and his point can be confusing.

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**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2025, 12:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-washington-post-democracy-dies-with-us/1009210/333 "2025-01-04T12:24:35Z")

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Haven’t they had some other resignations, too? Reporters who moved to the Atlantic or something?

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**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2025, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-washington-post-democracy-dies-with-us/1009210/334 "2025-01-04T17:41:33Z")

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> [@Chad\_Sudan](#):
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> The silencing of one cartoonist may not seem like a big deal.

It’s a huge, huge deal. It’s a vile act of cowardice.

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**Author:** ![The\_Librarian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_librarian/32/402_2.png) [@The\_Librarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Librarian)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2025, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-washington-post-democracy-dies-with-us/1009210/335 "2025-01-04T17:42:20Z")

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Is that the last of the Billionaire’s club to show their true colors?

Billionaires should not exist. (The individual people are fine. I object to the amassing of more money than you can ever spend. Unless you want people to buy countries)

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2025, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-washington-post-democracy-dies-with-us/1009210/336 "2025-01-04T17:53:57Z")

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[![](https://i.imgur.com/TM4PvEb.jpeg) ](https://i.imgur.com/TM4PvEb.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2025, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-washington-post-democracy-dies-with-us/1009210/337 "2025-01-04T17:54:43Z")

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Here’s a nonpaywalled link to the cartoonist’s statement:

> **[Why I'm quitting the Washington Post](https://anntelnaes.substack.com/p/why-im-quitting-the-washington-post?publication_id=1250616&post_id=153397673&isFreemail=true&r=3tf3m&triedRedirect=true)**
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> Democracy can't function without a free press

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**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2025, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-washington-post-democracy-dies-with-us/1009210/338 "2025-01-04T18:44:21Z")

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> [@RickJay](#):
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> It’s a huge, huge deal. It’s a vile act of cowardice.

And the claim that it was editorially axed because of “repetition” is pretty absurd. That they had already published one column on the topic in no way argues against the merit of a political cartoon which clearly lampoons how grossly obsequious some of the richest men in the United States are behavior toward a self-professed intended dictator in an environment with distinct parallels to previous authoritarian movements (and the Nazi Party takeover of Weimar Germany in particular). It’s an absolutely gutless and hypocritical move by a publications whose motto is “Democracy Dies In Darkness”, unless they are intent on bringing the nightfall.

Stranger

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**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2025, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-washington-post-democracy-dies-with-us/1009210/339 "2025-01-04T20:02:19Z")

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> [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](#):
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> It’s an absolutely gutless and hypocritical move by a publications whose motto is “Democracy Dies In Darkness”, unless they are intent on bringing the nightfall.

I agree.

Other than rant about it here or cancel subscriptions if we have one, is there anything any of us can do to express our displeasure/disgust?

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**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2025, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-washington-post-democracy-dies-with-us/1009210/340 "2025-01-04T20:24:56Z")

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> [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](#):
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> And the claim that it was editorially axed because of “repetition” is pretty absurd.

Lord, is that their excuse? At least have the courage to admit the truth.

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