# The Washington Post: Democracy Dies With Us

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-washington-post-democracy-dies-with-us/1009210>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Tags:** trump\
**Created:** [October 25, 2024, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-washington-post-democracy-dies-with-us/1009210 "2024-10-25T17:30:09Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2025, 1:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-washington-post-democracy-dies-with-us/1009210/581 "2025-05-08T01:01:04Z")

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> [@needscoffee](#):
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> I think her work stands on its own merit.

No doubt.

This sort of reminds me of the arguments over using racial diversity in university admissions. Using race as the main decider for admissions is certainly discriminatory, and would lead to the admission of unqualified candidates, but there is nothing wrong with considering racial diversity when selecting among many equally qualified candidates.

If her cartoons were not top notch she wouldn’t have won, regardless of her other actions, but given that…

> [@needscoffee](#):
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> There were many, many excellent political cartoons last year.

It is not unreasonable to choose the one who took a stand against censorship at significant personal sacrifice.

I would also reiterate what others have said that this isn’t about politics or at least not directly. It only political is politically tinged because one of the parties is attempting to pressure the press. If this happened 4 years ago and it was Biden was pressuring Bezos it would still be in the Pulizter’s interest to honor her.

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**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2025, 2:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-washington-post-democracy-dies-with-us/1009210/582 "2025-05-08T02:59:13Z")

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> [@nearwildheaven](#):
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> because she got the Pulitzer Prize for that cartoon,

Not true. The prize was for work done in 2024.

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**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2025, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-washington-post-democracy-dies-with-us/1009210/583 "2025-05-08T03:04:25Z")

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> [@Buck\_Godot](#):
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> It is not unreasonable to choose the one who took a stand against censorship at significant personal sacrifice.

There’s absolutely no indication this is what happened. The award is for excellence and work which made an impact.

Someone else got the same prize for photos of the Trump assassination attempt - the iconic photos of his bleeding with his fist up, his shoes left behind, and more. Was it awarded because it was praising Trump?

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**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2025, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-washington-post-democracy-dies-with-us/1009210/584 "2025-05-08T22:11:35Z")

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> [@Buck\_Godot](#):
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> If her cartoons were not top notch she wouldn’t have won, regardless of her other actions, but given that…
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> > [@needscoffee](#):
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> > There were many, many excellent political cartoons last year.
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> **It is not unreasonable to choose the one who took a stand against censorship at significant personal sacrifice.**
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> I would also reiterate what others have said that this isn’t about politics or at least not directly. It only political is politically tinged because one of the parties is attempting to pressure the press. If this happened 4 years ago and it was Biden was pressuring Bezos it would still be in the Pulizter’s interest to honor her.

I agree with this, particularly the bit I bolded.

> [@LSLGuy](#):
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> Censorship is like intolerance. A successful democratic pluralistic future demands it not be tolerated. Or censored.

This is an important point.

> [@nearwildheaven](#):
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> I chose this link, because the headline says it all.  
> [Pulitzer Board Sticks it to Bezos By Awarding Cartoonist Who Lampooned Him](https://www.thedailybeast.com/pulitzer-board-sticks-it-to-bezos-by-awarding-cartoonist-who-lampooned-him/)

I don’t think it possible for the Pulitzer committee to have chosen Telnaes and NOT have known that many people would have had this reaction.

They knew.

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**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2025, 1:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-washington-post-democracy-dies-with-us/1009210/585 "2025-10-30T01:48:48Z")

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Jim Acosta says “Go fuck yourselves!” to Jeff Bezos and _The Washington Post_:

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/E1BPR324raM/maxresdefault.jpg "Jim Acosta Just Did Something He's Never Done Before - And It's About Bezos") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E1BPR324raM)

It’s worth watching just to see a potty-mouth Acosta fuming and calling Jeff Bezos ‘Satan’.

Stranger

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**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2025, 10:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-washington-post-democracy-dies-with-us/1009210/586 "2025-11-03T22:43:53Z")

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> [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](#):
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> Jim Acosta says “Go fuck yourselves!” to Jeff Bezos and _The Washington Post_:

Also “bloody subscription” and, if I’m not mistaken, a labelling of Jeff Bezos as “Satan.”

Can’t say he’s wrong.

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**Author:** ![PastTense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pasttense/32/14550_2.png) [@PastTense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PastTense)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2025, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-washington-post-democracy-dies-with-us/1009210/587 "2025-12-12T16:23:35Z")

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> The Washington Post’s top standards editor Thursday decried “frustrating” errors in its new AI-generated personalized podcasts, whose launch has been met with distress by its journalists.
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> Earlier this week, the Post announced that it was rolling out personalized AI-generated podcasts for users of the paper’s mobile app. In a release, the paper said users will be able to choose preferred topics and AI hosts, and could “shape their own briefing, select their topics, set their lengths, pick their hosts and soon even ask questions using our Ask The Post AI technology.”
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> But less than 48 hours since the product was released, people within the Post have flagged what four sources described as multiple mistakes in personalized podcasts. The errors have ranged from relatively minor pronunciation gaffes to significant changes to story content, like misattributing or inventing quotes and inserting commentary, such as interpreting a source’s quotes as the paper’s position on an issue.

> **[Exclusive: Washington Post’s AI-generated podcasts rife with errors,...](https://www.semafor.com/article/12/11/2025/washington-posts-ai-generated-podcasts-rife-with-errors-fictional-quotes)**
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> Errors in the Post’s new AI-generated podcasts have frustrated the paper’s journalists.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2025, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-washington-post-democracy-dies-with-us/1009210/588 "2025-12-12T16:30:00Z")

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> [@PastTense](#):
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> > The errors have ranged from relatively minor pronunciation gaffes to significant changes to story content, like misattributing or inventing quotes and inserting commentary, such as interpreting a source’s quotes as the paper’s position on an issue.

“Why should we hire people to make up stories and lazily report things without proper fact-checking, when we can get a computer program to do it for us?”

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**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2026, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-washington-post-democracy-dies-with-us/1009210/589 "2026-01-03T18:14:58Z")

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The Washington Post’s editors have endorsed Trump’s invasion of Venezuela.

> **[max tani (@maxtani.bsky.social)](https://bsky.app/profile/maxtani.bsky.social/post/3mbjrsl7bec2d)**
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> The Washington Post editorial board comes out in favor of the Venezuela attack/operation to capture Maduro

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> With tough decisions coming and many obstacles ahead, it’s fair to look forward. Yet it’s also fair to celebrate. For years, Maduro was a symbol of the false warmth of Latin American collectivism. Now he should spend the rest of his life in a humane American prison. His downfall is good news.

Absolutely appalling horseshit.

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2026, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-washington-post-democracy-dies-with-us/1009210/590 "2026-01-03T18:24:25Z")

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_Pravda_ at it’s most mendacious never wrote bullshit that extremely at odds with reality.

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**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2026, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-washington-post-democracy-dies-with-us/1009210/591 "2026-01-03T18:26:32Z")

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> For years, Maduro was a symbol of the false warmth of Latin American collectivism.

Why don’t they just call him “woke” and be done with it? Assholes.

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**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2026, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-washington-post-democracy-dies-with-us/1009210/592 "2026-01-03T18:29:26Z")

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Does anyone still have a subscription to cancel? Because this would be an excellent opportunity.

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**Author:** ![Wendell\_Wagner](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/8491ac/32.png) [@Wendell\_Wagner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wendell_Wagner)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2026, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-washington-post-democracy-dies-with-us/1009210/593 "2026-01-03T19:29:03Z")

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Incidentally, Jeff Bezos loses about 100 million dollars a year on _The Washington Post_. He’s worth about 250 billion dollars. In about the year 4526, he will be bankrupt.

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**Author:** ![LouMa](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/louma/32/19472_2.png) [@LouMa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LouMa)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2026, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-washington-post-democracy-dies-with-us/1009210/594 "2026-01-03T19:49:30Z")

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> [@LSLGuy](#):
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> _Pravda_ at it’s most mendacious never wrote bullshit that extremely at odds with reality.

Makes me think you actually never read Правда… 🙂

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2026, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-washington-post-democracy-dies-with-us/1009210/595 "2026-01-03T20:06:16Z")

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For what it’s worth, at least the charade is over.  
They’re no longer pretending not to be doing hard propaganda for Trump.  
Put them on the same rung as Faux News and call it a day.

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**Author:** ![Wendell\_Wagner](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/8491ac/32.png) [@Wendell\_Wagner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wendell_Wagner)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2026, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-washington-post-democracy-dies-with-us/1009210/596 "2026-01-03T21:13:48Z")

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> [@bobot](#):
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> They’re no longer pretending not to be doing hard propaganda for Trump.

Do you read all of The Washington Post every day? I do. The news items in it make clear what a terrible president Trump has been. There are a variety of editorials, opinion articles, and letters to the editors. The clear majority of them are against Trump.

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2026, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-washington-post-democracy-dies-with-us/1009210/597 "2026-01-03T21:27:56Z")

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No, I quit reading it. My days of reading The Washington Post are behind me.  
I read The Guardian now. For now.

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**Author:** ![Wendell\_Wagner](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/8491ac/32.png) [@Wendell\_Wagner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wendell_Wagner)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2026, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-washington-post-democracy-dies-with-us/1009210/598 "2026-01-03T21:33:38Z")

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_The Guardian_ doesn’t have any local news about where I live, so it would be useless for most of what I get from _The Washington Post_.

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**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2026, 11:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-washington-post-democracy-dies-with-us/1009210/599 "2026-01-03T23:11:07Z")

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> [@LSLGuy](#):
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> _Pravda_ at it’s most mendacious never wrote bullshit that extremely at odds with reality.

Bezos _does_ love a challenge.

The concept that what Donald has done is Wonderful because Maduro is a bad guy is “logic” fully worthy of Donald himself. So the Washington Post can now be known as the paper that endorses actions such as ‘burning down an orphanage because the manager is mean.’

Collaborationists stink.

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**Author:** ![Wendell\_Wagner](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/8491ac/32.png) [@Wendell\_Wagner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wendell_Wagner)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2026, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-washington-post-democracy-dies-with-us/1009210/600 "2026-01-03T23:32:36Z")

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> [@Sherrerd](#):
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> So the Washington Post can now be known as the paper that endorses actions such as ‘burning down an orphanage because the manager is mean.’

Have you ever read anything in _The Washington Post_ besides the items mentioned in this thread? I read it every day in the paper and ink version that’s delivered to my door. The news articles in it make it clear how bad a president Trump is. They don’t feel it’s necessary to call Trump names or exaggerate anything. This makes it better than the videos on YouTube that I listen to most days which also make it clear that he’s a bad president but seem to think that it’s necessary to show how funny the people who films them and talks in them are. The editorials, opinion pieces, and letters in the paper, which are not on the same pages as the news articles, have a variety of political stances. The clear majority of them are opposed to Trump.

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