# The weirdness that is Alex Jones

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**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [January 11, 2018, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-weirdness-that-is-alex-jones/806407 "2018-01-11T17:36:36Z")\
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**Author:** ![XT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xt/32/456_2.png) [@XT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/XT)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2018, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-weirdness-that-is-alex-jones/806407/1 "2018-01-11T17:36:36Z")

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I just wanted to share [this](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kgUDbvKYbWk) YouTube video with everyone. I don’t know if many here follow Alex Jones (I don’t…I recall a lot from him in the 9/11 CT threads which is all I really knew about him in the past, plus [this](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WyGq6cjcc3Q) segment from John Oliver on the man), but the guy is pretty entertaining. It’s amazing to me that anyone actually takes this guy seriously.

Anyway, just thought I’d share.

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**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2018, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-weirdness-that-is-alex-jones/806407/2 "2018-01-11T18:02:19Z")

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The problem is that a lot of people actually take him seriously (apparently more seriously than [he takes himself](https://www.vox.com/2017/4/26/15427170/alex-jones-custody-battle-performance-artist-satire)), and the list of decision makers influenced by him [include the current US President](http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2016/10/trump-infowars-alex-jones-clinton-conspiracy-theories/). He may be overacting in a bizarre attempt to top [John Belushi’s most hyperbolic performance](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ep-xgd_eETE&t=1m19s) but he is convincing a lot of other people, including voters and powerful elected officials to believe in utterly baseless conspiracy theories about some deep shadow government orchastrating tragedies like the September 11, 2001 attacsk or the Sandy Hook mass shooting.

He is a dangerous, demogoguery-promoting fabulist who played no small part in influencing the 2016 election and the cottage industry of conspiranoia that has become _de rigeuer_ among the xenophobic far right wing of the Republican party.

Stranger

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**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2018, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-weirdness-that-is-alex-jones/806407/3 "2018-01-11T18:03:43Z")

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Considering that he’s gone into court saying “no, no, I’m just an entertainer” to try to get custody of his kids or out of lawsuits, it’s amazing _anyone_ believes anything he says.

But this is America, where you get to be terminally stupid and believe charlatans like him if you want to. ☹

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**Post date:** [January 11, 2018, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-weirdness-that-is-alex-jones/806407/4 "2018-01-11T19:25:20Z")

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> [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](#):
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> The problem is that a lot of people actually take him seriously (apparently more seriously than [he takes himself](https://www.vox.com/2017/4/26/15427170/alex-jones-custody-battle-performance-artist-satire)), and the list of decision makers influenced by him [include the current US President](http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2016/10/trump-infowars-alex-jones-clinton-conspiracy-theories/). He may be overacting in a bizarre attempt to top [John Belushi’s most hyperbolic performance](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ep-xgd_eETE&t=1m19s) but he is convincing a lot of other people, including voters and powerful elected officials to believe in utterly baseless conspiracy theories about some deep shadow government orchastrating tragedies like the September 11, 2001 attacsk or the Sandy Hook mass shooting.

> [@My wife came out to me as a Truther](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/my-wife-came-out-to-me-as-a-truther/593502/128):
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> Originally compiled by a guy at the IMDb boards:
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> Alex Jones and his website Prison Plant.
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> From 30 minutes on Prison Planet
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> NEW! American Gulag: Concentration Camps in America
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> Pentagon hacker says charges have been manufactured McKinnon admits accessing the secret computers in 2001 and 2002, saying that he was looking for – and found – evidence of alien life and reverse-engineered alien technology.
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> To celebrate the five year anniversary of his historic infiltration of the Bohemian Grove, the occult playground of the global elite, Alex Jones presents his newest film, The Order of Death, an amazing and horrifying look into the rites and rituals of the modern day descendents of Babylonian mystery cults.
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> The Elite Serial Killers of Lincoln, JFK, RFK & MLK
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> Kenyan Nobel peace laureate claims AIDS virus deliberately created
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> Since 1873, the Global Elite Has Held Secret Meetings in the Ancient Redwood Forest of Northern California.
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> Members of the so-called “Bohemian Club” include Former Presidents Eisenhower, Nixon and Reagan.
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> The Tsunami: More Than a Natural Disaster? Was the high death toll a result of incompetence, greed, deliberate weather warfare, a combination of all three or none?
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> Listed below is the evidence. We leave the reader to make their own mind up. Tsunami Bomb Developed As Far Back As 1944
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> Vaccines: The Deadly Cure"The only safe vaccine is one that is never used."
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> Alex Jones interviews Tom Flocco on his latest story, Photographer for White House child sex ring arrested after Thompson suicide, and is also joined by former Senator John DeCamp to discuss the evidence of high level government pedophile rings and how they tie into the Jeff Gannon and Hunter S. Thompson stories.
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> Hunter Thompson was working on WTC collapse story before mysterious sudden death, warned he’d be ‘suicided’
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> Were ‘Pod Missiles’ Used in the World Trade Center Attack?
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> THE GOVERNMENT IS LYING ABOUT THE FULL EXTENT AND SOURCE OF ANTHRAX ATTACKS: They Had Prior Knowledge of Imminent Anthrax Outbreak Way Back on September 11th.
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> The Lone Gunmen: Pilot episode of X-Files spin off an insider 911 warning or sick conditioning?
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> Bush - Nazi Link Confirmed
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> Olympic Symbols Have Sinister Origins
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> The powerful Central government is gearing up for total takeover.
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> Alex Jones exposes the growing relationship between the military and police.  
> Witness US marines training with foreign troops and learning how to control and contain civilian populations as practiced during Operation: Urban Warrior. You will see special forces helicopter attacks on south Texas towns, concentration camps, broad Unconstitutional police actions, search and seizure and more…
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> Occult Symbolism: As American as Baseball
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> “Smart Dust” May Soon Be Watching You
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> You can’t turn on your television or visit any world capitol without being confronted by the occult symbolism of the global elite. Here is Time Warner’s logo – the all-seeing eye The all-seeing eye is the elite’s favorite symbol. It represents the eye of Lucifer seeing all and is usually atop a pyramid, the symbol for a top-down command and control system of compartmentalization.
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> Signaling out to their Illuminati overlords – both Clinton and Bush have been photographed making “the sign of the devil” at public events.
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> From the pyramid at the Louvre, commissioned by Francois “the Sphinx” Mitterand to be made out of 666 panes of glass to the layout of the mall at Washington, DC, the Illuminati have made their presence clear through the occult symbolism of their architecture.
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> In a similar vain to the episode of the Lone Gunmen aired on Fox in March 2001, the action film The Long Kiss Goodnight, provides yet more revelations of the method of government complicity in attacks on the World Trade Center.
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> The New York lottery drew 9,1,1 as the winning pick-3 combination in their digit lottery on Sept. 11, 2002
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> On the one-year anniversary of the September 11tjh attacks, the same day that the New York Lottery drew 911 as the winning pick-3 combination, the September Standard &
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> Poor’s 500 futures contract closed at 911.00.
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> The horrible Madrid train bomb that killed 190 passengers and created the push for more Draconian laws and surveillance internationally happened 911 days after 9/11.
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> Freemasonic ‘Speculative Society’ Linked to Dunblane Massacre
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> Airline Insanity Merely A Beta Test For Police State Caste System  
> Draconian surveillance, identification, behavior modification measures being implemented right outside your door
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> MySpace Is The Trojan Horse Of Internet Censorship
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> Media elite’s last gasp effort to save crumbling empireMySpace isn’t cool, it isn’t hip and it isn’t trendy. It represents a cyber trojan horse and the media elite’s last gasp effort to reclaim control of the Internet and sink it with a stranglehold of regulation, control and censorship.
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> Are Enron Bankers/Witnesses Being Murdered?
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> Still Ridiculing People Who Talk About Forced Microchip Implants?  
> For over a decade now Alex Jones and others have been warning that the event of enforced microchipping of humans for tracking and security purposes is upon us.
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> Biometrics, ID cards, tagging, DNA kits being pushed on kids
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> And his merchandise.  
> [http://infowars-shop.stores.yahoo.net/videos.html](http://infowars-shop.stores.yahoo.net/videos.html)  
> AND SOME INFO ON ALEX JONES AND PRISON PLANET
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> What Alex Jones believes…believe it or not!
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> The following list is of beliefs which Alex Jones has explicitly or implicitly stated on his cable access show–sometimes many times.
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> They put mercury in your vaccines to brain-damage your children.
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> The Aztecs would take hallucinogenic enemas and cut their penises off. (Ah, the Sixties!)
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> Alex Jones has correctly predicted everything that has happened in the last 10 years. (Can you spell M-E-G-A-L-O-M-A-N-I-A? I thought you could…)
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> FEMA has a giant private army.
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> Everyone is talking about world government. (No they’re not. As used by normal people, the phrase “new world order” simply means a change in the world order. It has no implication of world government. Conspiracy nuts are stupid–what can I say?)
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> Vaccines have brain-damaged millions of babies. (Based on a misreading of CDC documents. Alex Jones misreads everything.)
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> You can’t succeed in academe unless you agree that 80% of the population has to be killed off. (That’s all those stuck-up academics talks about.)
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> Black helicopters are real. (You create your own reality, dig.)
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> Illegal immigrants get free tuition and discounts on their Twinkies. They always go to the front of the line in emergency rooms. (It’s part of the takeover.)
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> There’s a worldwide takeover going on, perceptible only to dumb white guys…  
> …but everyone is waking up. (Conspiracy nuts always say “everyone is waking up.” It’s part of their delusional system–like their imagined ability to predict the future.)
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> The ruling elite of the world worship Moloch. (The evidence for this is a blurry video of the show at Bohemian Grove. Alex thinks the Bohemian Grove show is real.)
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> The secret rulers of the world can live forever. (No one knows where this comes from or why Alex believes it. I think it came from a dream Alex had. As far as I know, the rulers of the world continue to die normally.)
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> The elite have openly announced that they want to kill 80% of us. (But, oddly, in all the world only Alex Jones noticed these startling admissions!)
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> Dick Cheney writes papers saying terrorism isn’t real. (Alex wouldn’t say what papers. Though he talks incessantly about documentation, Alex Jones almost never says where he gets his information, much less why it’s dependable.)
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> The U.S. Government went around Italy blowing up school busses full of children…& admitted it.[/ed] (Twirling their moustaches & going “Nya-ha-ha-ha!” Alex hears a lot of admissions no one else can hear.)
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> The left-right political spectrum is bogus (This is the dominant paradigm of stupid people today! They never offer a shred of proof. It’s just too self-evident to prove, when you’re as smart as these guys.)
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> There are little wires in dollar bills that keep track of what you buy. (Somehow.)
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> Vicente Fox can morph into a green devil. (Alex says he saw him do it. Honest. This vision occurred when Fox visited Texas, c. 2003-4, & Alex bullhorned him.)
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> The Communist Chinese Army has taken over the Massachusetts Port Authority. (Maybe it’s some kind of brain seizure with Alex.)
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> Noam Chomsky is a mongoloid idiot. Also an agent.
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> There are Illuminati symbols on Starbucks coffee cups. (The Illuminati leave clues visible only to angry white guys with IQ’s in the mid-80’s.)
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> Exits on tollroads are 50 miles apart. (It’s a takeover only Alex Jones could see! Who woulda thought?)
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> Jacques Cousteau wanted to kill 80% of us. (Jacques, too? I wonder why he didn’t live forever?)
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> Margaret Sanger gave & received awards from Hitler. (When the Nazis weren’t burning her books.)
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> There are live AIDS viruses in the corn. (This means no sex with the corn.)  
> 91% of Americans are Nazis. (Alex says anyone who favors gun control is a Nazi; 91% of Americans favor mandatory handgun registration; that’s a lotta Nazis, Alex.)
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> The United Nations goes around Africa, sterilizing women at random (twirling their moustaches & going “Nya-ha-ha-haa!”)
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> The Founding Fathers were basically stupid (they were Masons––but they didn’t know about the secret conspiracy so obvious to Alex & his friends)
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> Masons can commit murder. They make a secret sign to the judges and are immediately set free. This has been solidly confirmed.
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> All throughout history, governments have always been Evil. (Bet you didn’t know that. Like most of the Patriots, Alex is an anti-government bigot. He frequently poses as a historian, but no real historian subscribes to Alex Jones’s bad comic book.)
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> Power outages are government plots.
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> Illegal immigration is a government plot.
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> The counterculture is a government plot.
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> Vaccines are a you-know-what.
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> Thumbscanning is a government plot.
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> Environmentalism is a government plot.
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> The National Seatbelt Initiative is a bloody government plot.
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> Feminism is a government plot.
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> Tollroads are a gummint plot.
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> This web page is a government plot.
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> Your mother is a government plot.
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> The goddam drug culture is a government plot. (Alex Buzzkill Jones.)
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> Cell phones are a government plot.
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> Wal Mart is a government plot. (A Defense Department front. It’s all out there in the open…but only Alex Jones can see it. Far out.)
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> Sports are a government plot…somehow.
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> Antidepressants are a government plot. (Better you should say “What’s NOT a government plot?”)
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> All domestic terror attacks are government plots. (Pulled off by the most incompetent administration in history, fooling everyone in the world except angry white guys with IQ’s in the mid-80’s.)
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> The bad guys plant clues in TV shows and tell you what they’re going to do on TV. (Though only one man in the world can perceive these clues. Think of the burden this puts on Alex.)
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> The government brings in all the drugs. (All of them! Only Alex Jones knows this. No documentation. No nothing. Just another bad dream Alex mistook for news.)
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> Arnold Schwartzeneggar is a known Nazi. (Only Alex knows this. Someone alert the Kennedys.)
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> Arnold Schwartzeneggar is part of an Austrian plot to take over America. (Alex really has it in for Arnie. He has a web page devoted entirely to ad hominem attacks against the ex-terminator.)
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> Skull & Bones is part of an English plot to take over America.  
> The United Nations is part of a (very slow) plot to take over America.
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> Children’s cartoons are part of a government plot to brainwash us. (Alex Jones is immune. Conspiracy guys are always immune to the brainwashing they see everywhere. White-Guy egotism.)
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> Organized religion is brainwashing us. (Doesn’t Alex realize brainless people cannot brainwash?)
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> The secret ruling elite of the world are putting up buildings that look like owls. (Only conspiracy people can see these owls, in case you were wondering. I wonder why they don’t build pyramids with eyes on top of them.)
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> Most major police chiefs are CIA operatives.
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> Gloria Steinham is a CIA operative.
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> The voting-machine companies are openly run by the CIA. (“Openly run by the CIA” sounds like an oxymoron to me.)
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> The Quakers are communists. (Er…I thought communists were atheists. Of course, right-wing loonies have no concept of what communism is.)
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> All of Clinton’s cabinet were Jewish. (Alex is not anti-Semitic. I don’t know why he said this. Another dream, I guess.)
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> People in Holland have tattoos saying “Don’t Kill Me.” (Evidently a tougher country than we thought.)
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> Lyndon Johnson had John Kennedy killed. (I guess JFK was stupid, choosing LBJ as his running mate like that. Conspiracy guys are stupid, so they think everybody is stupid.)
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> The UN has sold thousands of children into slavery & for snuff films.
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> Gays are actively recruiting in our schools. (Why do right-wing loonies always believe this?)
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> The government keeps “giant, honeycombed hives full of toddlers drugged on lithium” (twirling their moustaches & going “NYA-HAHAHAHA!” The government…not the toddlers.)
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> The Rothschilds funded Hitler. (Some of the Rothschilds were arrested by Hitler and ransomed back to their family; others escaped Nazi Germany with only their lives.)  
> People in Africa tear off their arms after receiving vaccinations. (But then, we’ve all done that.)
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> The government is spraying us with EVIL CHEMICALS contained in the contrails of planes (also poisoning themselves, I guess. Shows you how ruthless the elite are.)
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> The United Nations goes around Africa, sterilizing women at random (twirling their moustaches & saying “Nya-ha-ha-haa!”)
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> Every soldier who died in any war since the Civil War was a chump (you thought they were heroes; turns out they were nothing but fools; how’s THAT for patriotism?)
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> Antidepressants are a government plot to bum us out.
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> The United Nations is part of a (very slow) plot to take over America.
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> Mercury travels from Africa to Austin on the Jet Stream. That’s why Austinites have so many allergies.
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> IQ’s are going down. (IQ’s are going up.)
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> The cancer rate is up. (Most cancer rates are down.)
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> During his inauguration, President Clinton openly gave the sign of Satan for all the world to see. (They all worship Moloch, don’t forget. I don’t know how we get to Satan from there…but Alex says so.)
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> Alex Jones is saving humankind with his cable TV show, radio shows, & tapes (available for purchase, by the way).
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> Bad people are deliberately putting cancer viruses, AIDS viruses, & mercury in our vaccines (twirling their moustaches & going “Nya-hahaha!”).
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> 9-11 was only the beginning; there are going to be lots of even bigger domestic attacks (5 years & waiting on this prediction, Alex).
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> Most Americans believe the government was behind 9-11 (this is based on Alex’s misreading of a Zogby poll; Alex misreads EVERYTHING)
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> They sacrifice babies at Bohemian Grove. (Try to imagine Richard Nixon sacrificing a baby. Or GWB. I guess Cheney would do it, perhaps inadvertently.)
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> They only hire people with IQ’s below 100 to become police officers. (Like most “Patriots,” Alex Jones is essentially a cop-hater. He will say anything bad about the police.)
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> Alex Jones has flawlessly predicted the future many times. (This is a delusion common to conspiracy guys.)
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> Alex Jones can predict the future, because he goes to the SECRET WEBSITES where the New World Order tells you EVERYTHING IT’S GOING TO DO!

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**Author:** ![XT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xt/32/456_2.png) [@XT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/XT)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2018, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-weirdness-that-is-alex-jones/806407/5 "2018-01-12T16:16:32Z")

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You’d think that the fact that he is trying to sell (outrageously priced) ‘cures’ or fixes for the problems he has supposedly found (and that all of them seem to be the worst kind of snake oil or new age horseshit) would be a dead give away to people that the guy is a total charlatan, but apparently, the bullshit detectors some folks have are faulty. Really not a huge surprise, considering enough people were taken in by Trump to make him president. :eek:

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**Post date:** [January 12, 2018, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-weirdness-that-is-alex-jones/806407/6 "2018-01-12T19:32:35Z")

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I think a big part of his success is that he will spread CTs that hit both the extreme right (anti-government, anti-democrats, anti-“New World Oder” type stuff) and the extreme left (anti-vaccine, 9/11 truther, chemtrails) so he hits that sweet spot where the crazies come full circle and meet.

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**Author:** ![marshmallow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/df705f/32.png) [@marshmallow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/marshmallow)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2018, 7:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-weirdness-that-is-alex-jones/806407/7 "2018-01-18T07:23:59Z")

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I’ve watched several of those hour long Alex Jones compilation videos. The man is wildly entertaining and has a way with words. Totally nuts of course, but you’ll be hard pressed to find better comedy material. Some of his impassioned pleas for humanity to wake up, shake off their chains, and embrace their destiny in the stars are actually rather inspiring.

His entire worldview would make a good fantasy series or video game. He thinks the elite want to reduce the world population via chemicals in the food, water, and air, by pushing the gay lifestyle and attacking marriage, as well as provoke conflict until there’s an all out genocide. Why? Because they’re following the commands of an interdimensional demonic force. The elite, in their vanity, think they will join with robot bodies and live forever (hence their techno futurism), but what will actually happen is that Satan will ensnare their souls and use the machines to, if I remember right, assault heaven and destroy God’s plans. Or something like that? The demons need humans to make the machines, because demons can’t create, only corrupt (sounds like LOTR).

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**Author:** ![marshmallow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/df705f/32.png) [@marshmallow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/marshmallow)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2018, 8:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-weirdness-that-is-alex-jones/806407/8 "2018-01-18T08:08:01Z")

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These are some of my favorite, less widely disseminated Alex Jones quotes.

> [@](#):
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> You think real Satanists have sex with hot chicks on a black altar? That’s to lure in the rubes. Real Satanism is about destroying everything beautiful and murdering the planet. Mark my words, these spineless collaborators will be torn limb from limb by Lucifer.
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> Humans are meant to dare greatly and fight and strive and build. If you’re an artist or a writer or you’re like Beethoven you’re meant to pour your soul out. Same thing with the fight against globalists.
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> You’re like cancer and you look at the body that gave birth to you you and loved you, your mother, your father, God, this planet and you piss all over it like you can run around doing horrible things like you have some secret technology. As if we don’t know how to do all the bad stuff, dumbass. I’m 10x worse than you but my good side is 1000x better.
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> The only way you ascend is by building everyone else up. We’re going to build the new Atlantis. We’re going to the stars. Any hunchback demon who thinks they can hijack our spirit to go to Valhalla will be flushed to HELL!
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> The spirit of our times is a pot bellied pedophile.
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> Perception is reality – for the slave.
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> The West is such a beautiful goddess and you were ashamed of beholding her, so you destroyed her.
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> These trendy liberals think it’s funny that all their friends and children are dying from cancer and prion disease.
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> They’ve weaponized weed. Liberals want people to be mindless zombie potheads.
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> I reject your cyber robot collectivization! I won’t put wires in my head!
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> God doesn’t want a bunch of jellyfish. He wants us to be tested. This is training. A high tech war for our very souls.
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> These filth would sell their grandmother out for a stick of bubblegum.
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> Parasites always have disdain for the host.
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> Trump is so virtuous, like a St. Bernard rescuing victims trapped in the snow.
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> Evil ain’t cool, and evil ain’t fun.
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> The truth is out there in front of you. They lay out a buffet of lies. I’m not going to take a bite out of it!
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> I’m sorry. [pause] Maybe I shouldn’t apologize. Christ was God and I’m just a man and he beat the money lenders with a whip.
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> Even a baby will fight in the womb to defend itself from the scalpel. WON’T YOU FIGHT FOR YOURSELF?
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> When the remnants of humanity crawl out from their fallout shelters, I’m hoping they see that someone fought for them!
> 
> The Apple logo, not even trying to hide their intentions, like the apple that caused the fall of man.

He really doesn’t like Hillary:

> [@](#):
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> When you’re a hunchback bug eyed demon like Hillary Clinton who smells like a dead body since you were a kid all you want to do is screw everybody over and burn down the country. These are sloths, these are stinkers, these are demons, these are pig creatures. They are fallen, this is the nature, this is the paradigm they build. They’re dung beetles.
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> Hillary is the Whore of Babylon drunk on the blood of the saints. You think Jeffrey Dahmer was bad with eight bodies in his freezer? He was a PIKER compared to this woman!
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> Hillary is full of the blood of the innocents. An actual goblin vampire. Blackbelly would be her name. An intergalactic mosquito!

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**Post date:** [January 18, 2018, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-weirdness-that-is-alex-jones/806407/9 "2018-01-18T18:08:53Z")

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> [@marshmallow](#):
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> I’ve watched several of those hour long Alex Jones compilation videos. The man is wildly entertaining and has a way with words. Totally nuts of course, but you’ll be hard pressed to find better comedy material. Some of his impassioned pleas for humanity to wake up, shake off their chains, and embrace their destiny in the stars are actually rather inspiring.

You mean such as his promotion of the ‘Pizzagate’ purported child sex ring conspiracy which resulted in the owner and employees of the Comet Ping Pong pizza restaurant (and other nearby establishments) being threatened and culimating in Edgar Maddison Welch deciding to “self-investigate” by entering the restaurant with an AR-15 and firing several times (fortunately not injuring anyone in the process). He’s less “wildly entertaining” encouraging people to “embrace their destinty” than inciting deeply disturbted wingnuts into harmful action, notwithstanding the influence he has with the current political leadership of the Oval Office.

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Jordan Klepper’s Comedy Central show _The Opposition_ is a parody of Alex Jones in the way that Stephen Colbert’s _The Colbert Report_ was a parody of Bill O’Reilly.

Colbert has a recurring segment parodying Jones on his new show as Tuck Buckford.

_The Opposition_ has been getting better, with Klepper managing Colbert’s earlier feat of saying lunatic things while simultaneously undercutting them. He has a bunch of “citizen journalists” whose segments are usually pretty funny, better than most of those on _The Daily Show_.

Tuck Buckford is wildly over-the-top, trying to out-crazy the professionals. It occasionally succeeds but you really can’t outcrazy Jones.

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**Post date:** [January 18, 2018, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-weirdness-that-is-alex-jones/806407/11 "2018-01-18T23:59:48Z")

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I’ve noticed that when Stefan Molyneux talks with Alex he (involuntarily?) adopts some of Alex’s mannerisms.

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**Post date:** [January 21, 2018, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-weirdness-that-is-alex-jones/806407/12 "2018-01-21T18:38:41Z")

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> [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](#):
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> You mean such as his promotion of the ‘Pizzagate’ purported child sex ring conspiracy which resulted in the owner and employees of the Comet Ping Pong pizza restaurant (and other nearby establishments) being threatened and culimating in Edgar Maddison Welch deciding to “self-investigate” by entering the restaurant with an AR-15 and firing several times (fortunately not injuring anyone in the process).

Yeah, Pizzagate was screwed up. So was people harassing Sandy Hook parents. So is Qanon. Reality, online wingbattery, Trump, America’s decline – it’s all merging together into a vortex of insanity and things will only get worse from here on out. Some laugh, others cry.

While I have your attention, [do you have any thoughts on this post?](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=20684169#post20684169)

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**Post date:** [March 3, 2018, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-weirdness-that-is-alex-jones/806407/13 "2018-03-03T21:06:20Z")

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[CNN: ”Advertisers flee InfoWars founder Alex Jones’ YouTube channel”](http://money.cnn.com/2018/03/03/technology/youtube-ads-infowars-alex-jones/index.html)

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**Post date:** [March 3, 2018, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-weirdness-that-is-alex-jones/806407/14 "2018-03-03T21:45:30Z")

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> [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](#):
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> [CNN: ”Advertisers flee InfoWars founder Alex Jones’ YouTube channel”](http://money.cnn.com/2018/03/03/technology/youtube-ads-infowars-alex-jones/index.html)
> 
> Stranger

Let’s go through this a bit:

> [@](#):
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> Last week, YouTube reprimanded the conspiracy theory site and Jones for violating its community guidelines after a video posted to The Alex Jones Channel, InfoWars’ biggest YouTube account, claimed student anti-gun activists were actors.

Assuming he’s talking about the massacre survivors, this is the Crisis Actor Conspiracy Theory. It’s absolutely nothing new from Alex Jones, he does it literally every time there’s a mass shooting or a big bombing or something: All of the supposed “victims” are crisis actors, and you can tell because they re-use the same people every single time and Alex Jones fans are incapable of telling one brown-haired White person from another brown-haired White person.

To give some idea of how long he’s been using this gag, I remember first coming across it in the immediate aftermath of the Boston Marathon Bombing. He claimed someone with bloody stumps for legs was really an amputee in Hollywood makeup.

Moving on.

> [@](#):
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> Now YouTube and Jones’ channel on it are in the spotlight again. CNN has discovered ads on InfoWars’ channels from companies and organizations such as Nike (NKE), Acer, 20th Century Fox, Paramount Network, the Mormon Church, Moen, Expedia (EXPE), Alibaba (BABA), HomeAway, the NRA, Honey, Wix and ClassPass.

I’m sure those ads have been there for years, and Alex Jones, despite how he likes to paint himself as a brave outsider, is hardly an unknown. If those companies had ever cared, they would have known over a decade ago.

This, however:

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> Even an ad for the UN refugee agency, UNHCR, asking for donations for Rohingya refugees was shown on an InfoWars YouTube channel.

Comedy fucking _gold_. Alex Jones and his merry band think the UN is a Globalist Plot to set up FEMA Death Camps and force White nations to accept African refugees. Heck, they even have a nice little slogan: “Anti-racist is code for anti-White.”

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> Many of the brands – including Nike, Moen, Expedia, Acer, ClassPass, Honey, Alibaba and OneFamily – have suspended ads on InfoWars’ channels after being contacted by CNN for comment. The companies, with the exception of Alibaba, which declined to comment, said they had been unaware their ads were running on The Alex Jones Channel.

Alibaba is Chinese. They couldn’t possibly give fewer shits about looking not-crazy to Americans.

> [@](#):
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> InfoWars and Jones are known for peddling conspiracy theories, including the false idea that the Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting in Newtown, Connecticut, in 2012 was a hoax.

And given how much play the _victims_ of that hoax got when the conspiratards began harassing them, there’s no way the companies _didn’t_ know about Alex Jones and what he does.

This is evidence of a shift in the culture. First, companies pivoting away from the NRA, now, companies investigating YouTube over right-wing extremists monetizing videos using their ads. It’s only going to continue from here.

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> [@Derleth](#):
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> Alibaba is Chinese. They couldn’t possibly give fewer shits about looking not-crazy to Americans.

Alibaba is an online storefront for several companies, one of which I’ve dealt with. They’re sort of China’s version of Amazon; they should give a shit about looking not-crazy to a large portion of potential customers.

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**Post date:** [March 3, 2018, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-weirdness-that-is-alex-jones/806407/16 "2018-03-03T22:00:01Z")

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> [@Skywatcher](#):
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> Alibaba is an online storefront for several companies, one of which I’ve dealt with. They’re sort of China’s version of Amazon; they should give a shit about looking not-crazy to a large portion of potential customers.

Maybe I’m just parochial, but I’ve heard of them being huge _in China_, but I’ve never heard of them having much presence in the US.

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> [@Derleth](#):
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> Maybe I’m just parochial, but I’ve heard of them being huge _in China_, but I’ve never heard of them having much presence in the US.

Unlike Amazon, they don’t have any regional sites (e.g.: [amazon.co.uk](http://amazon.co.uk)) so all their business goes though China. Pretty sure their customer base is almost entirely resellers such as [Oriental Trading Company](http://www.orientaltrading.com/) but it’s not all wholesale.

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> [@Skywatcher](#):
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> Alibaba is an online storefront for several companies, one of which I’ve dealt with. They’re sort of China’s version of Amazon; they should give a shit about looking not-crazy to a large portion of potential customers.

Crazy people seem to be about a third of the US market, and probably easier to squeeze a dollar out of - because they’re dumb. So the hard-headed economic calculation may still come down on the side of advertising to them.

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**Post date:** [March 4, 2018, 12:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-weirdness-that-is-alex-jones/806407/19 "2018-03-04T00:11:51Z")

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> [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](#):
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> The problem is that a lot of people actually take him seriously (apparently more seriously than [he takes himself](https://www.vox.com/2017/4/26/15427170/alex-jones-custody-battle-performance-artist-satire)), and the list of decision makers influenced by him [include the current US President](http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2016/10/trump-infowars-alex-jones-clinton-conspiracy-theories/). He may be overacting in a bizarre attempt to top [John Belushi’s most hyperbolic performance](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ep-xgd_eETE&t=1m19s) but he is convincing a lot of other people, including voters and powerful elected officials to believe in utterly baseless conspiracy theories about some deep shadow government orchastrating tragedies like the September 11, 2001 attacsk or the Sandy Hook mass shooting.
> 
> He is a dangerous, demogoguery-promoting fabulist who played no small part in influencing the 2016 election and the cottage industry of conspiranoia that has become _de rigeuer_ among the xenophobic far right wing of the Republican party.
> 
> Stranger

Wondering if you defend his right to be heard or do you feel he should be censored?

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**Post date:** [March 4, 2018, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-weirdness-that-is-alex-jones/806407/20 "2018-03-04T02:05:44Z")

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> [@Mangosteen](#):
>
> Wondering if you defend his right to be heard or do you feel he should be censored?

What is the purpose of asking this question? You already know the answer that will be given in advance–what is it you’re hoping to accomplish by eliciting that answer?

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