# The well balanced, intelligent Q adherent **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 29, 2021, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-well-balanced-intelligent-q-adherent/955144 "2021-11-29T16:35:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2021, 12:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-well-balanced-intelligent-q-adherent/955144/21 "2021-11-30T00:24:50Z")
> [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](#): > > But if God wanted the orange guy to be president, couldn’t He have gotten into his settings and tweaked him just a skosh, like making him somewhat decent and honorable? God : “Even I have my limits. YOU where supposed to deal with this piece of shit” ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2021, 1:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-well-balanced-intelligent-q-adherent/955144/22 "2021-11-30T01:07:34Z")
It seems some of them are starting to get disgruntled: > **['This is starting to get very old,': QAnon follower writes open letter to...](https://www.dailydot.com/debug/qanon-open-letter-trump-failed-predicitons/)** > > A QAnon supporter has penned an open letter to Donald Trump after countless predictions made by the movement failed to materialize. > A QAnon supporter has penned an open letter to former President Donald Trump after countless predictions made by the conspiracy movement failed to materialize… > > Warren specifically decried the failure of “Red October,” the false belief among conspiracy theorists that Trump’s enemies would be arrested en masse… > > Warren goes on to discuss health issues currently facing his wife while begging Trump to release secret medical technology known as “MED BEDS.” QAnon supporters have long believed that highly-advanced medical beds often seen in sci-fi movies have not only been hidden from the public, but can cure any and all diseases… ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2021, 1:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-well-balanced-intelligent-q-adherent/955144/23 "2021-11-30T01:07:46Z")
> [@Sitnam](#): > > The Tulip crash was about people buying something at an inflated price because they believed they could sell it to another sucker at an even higher price. That makes sense and it worked for awhile. To prolong this diversion just a bit: tulipomania investors weren’t motivated by getting into and out of the tulip market so as to make a killing while they could. Most of them genuinely believed that the bulbs they traded in were worth the ridiculous prices paid, and were bankrupted when their stock plummeted in value. Just as in subsequent bubbles, lots of people were badly burned because they thought the good times would last indefinitely. Mike Dash’s book on the subject is a good read. > **[Tulipomania : The Story of the World's Most Coveted Flower & the...](https://www.amazon.com/Tulipomania-Coveted-Extraordinary-Passions-Aroused/dp/060980765X)** > > Tulipomania : The Story of the World's Most Coveted Flower & the Extraordinary Passions It Aroused \[Dash, Mike\] on Amazon.com. \*FREE\* shipping on qualifying offers. Tulipomania : The Story of the World's Most Coveted Flower & the Extraordinary... As for QAnon, failed prophecies don’t matter. The signs were misinterpreted but so what? _These_ prophecies will come to pass, for sure. And if not, a new, far-seeing visionary will arise and command our devotion. ---
**Author:** ![SmartAleq](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smartaleq/32/163_2.png) [@SmartAleq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SmartAleq)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2021, 1:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-well-balanced-intelligent-q-adherent/955144/24 "2021-11-30T01:17:16Z")
The Qult has a loooooong way to go before they even approach the Jehovah’s Witnesses record for rationalizing missed dates and prophecies. ---
**Author:** ![KarlGauss](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/karlgauss/32/3713_2.png) [@KarlGauss](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KarlGauss)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2021, 1:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-well-balanced-intelligent-q-adherent/955144/25 "2021-11-30T01:22:32Z")
> And where are all the sane people that think they are Napoleon the 14th? Well, there’s this. [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/hnzHtm1jhL4/hqdefault.jpg "Napoleon XIV: 'They're coming to take me away'") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hnzHtm1jhL4) . ---
**Author:** ![Lumpy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lumpy/32/446_2.png) [@Lumpy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lumpy)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2021, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-well-balanced-intelligent-q-adherent/955144/26 "2021-11-30T01:41:19Z")
Anyone who proposes a radical conspiracy theory must be prepared to answer the following two questions satisfactorily: - You do know that there is such a thing as paranoid schizophrenia? - How do you distinguish between a real conspiracy and paranoid schizophrenia? ---
**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2021, 11:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-well-balanced-intelligent-q-adherent/955144/27 "2021-11-30T11:10:21Z")
> [@Knowed\_Out](#): > > I was wondering what the faithful do when prophecies don’t come true. One likely result: They dig in and double-down in their beliefs. This is exactly the phenomenon known as Cognitive Dissonance. The theory of cognitive dissonance was actually established by an investigation of the failed prophecy of a doomsday cult: > **[When Prophecy Fails](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/When_Prophecy_Fails)** > > When Prophecy Fails: A Social and Psychological Study of a Modern Group That Predicted the Destruction of the World is a classic work of social psychology by Leon Festinger, Henry Riecken, and Stanley Schachter, published in 1956, detailing a study of a small UFO religion in Chicago called the Seekers that believed in an imminent apocalypse. The authors took a particular interest in the members' coping mechanisms after the event did not occur, focusing on the cognitive dissonance between the mem... ---
**Author:** ![Jasmine](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jasmine/32/2964_2.png) [@Jasmine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jasmine)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2021, 12:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-well-balanced-intelligent-q-adherent/955144/28 "2021-11-30T12:44:08Z")
I knew all that, but I still found it humorous. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2021, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-well-balanced-intelligent-q-adherent/955144/29 "2021-11-30T17:58:37Z")
That was really sad for me to read. As someone who’s wife suffers from a chronic illness, I can understand the attractiveness of believing that some time soon there is going to be made available a device or treatment that will make her all better, and the disappointment that comes with not having those beliefs realized. It reminded me while these crazy beliefs do invite ridicule, and the resultant political manifestations and manipulation deserves our scorn, the people who have most been hurt by the Qanon conspiracy are the believers themselves. ---
**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2021, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-well-balanced-intelligent-q-adherent/955144/30 "2021-11-30T20:50:04Z")
In the Related Work section, an analysis of QAnon said it filled 4 of 5 Conditions for increased fervour after disconfirmation. The end part was kind of chilling. > The first four conditions for increased fervour after disconfirmation are fulfilled with QAnon faithful, only the last condition of continuing social support is the question. As of April 2021, QDrops have stopped but with the Internet these believers will find each other and will continue to socially support each other. Vyse states that all depends on if Donald Trump reemerges or is marginalized with no other “demagogic leader emerges”. So the only way to fix QAnons is to find somebody just as obnoxious as Trump to lead them, hee hee. ---
**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2021, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-well-balanced-intelligent-q-adherent/955144/31 "2021-11-30T21:16:42Z")
> [@Knowed\_Out](#): > > So the only way to fix QAnons is to find somebody just as obnoxious as Trump to lead them, hee hee. They need look no further than djtj. Same genes and everything. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2021, 10:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-well-balanced-intelligent-q-adherent/955144/32 "2021-11-30T22:27:04Z")
No, and that’s why it would be smart to be a bit circumspect for a little bit. [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/MerRqK0zUaU/maxresdefault.jpg "Let's talk about Flynn and some developments....") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MerRqK0zUaU) ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2021, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-well-balanced-intelligent-q-adherent/955144/33 "2021-12-01T16:18:40Z")
> [@SmartAleq](#): > > The Qult has a loooooong way to go before they even approach the Jehovah’s Witnesses record for rationalizing missed dates and prophecies. Do Jehovah’s Witnesses set specific dates? I was best friends with a JW when I was a teenager and read their stuff out of curiosity. I never saw a single specific prediction - literally not one. It was just generic “the Lord is coming sometime fairly soon” stuff. They said things had really accelerated starting in 1914 but did not promise a particular day when anything in particular would occur. Maybe they used to do that but gave up? ---
**Author:** ![gdave](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gdave/32/3683_2.png) [@gdave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gdave)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2021, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-well-balanced-intelligent-q-adherent/955144/34 "2021-12-01T17:40:34Z")
> [@RickJay](#): > > Maybe they used to do that but gave up? [Did they ever.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eschatology_of_Jehovah%27s_Witnesses#History_of_eschatology) They’re probably best known for “Millions Alive Today Will Never Die!”, and for retconning the Second Coming of Christ into an _invisible_, spiritual Second Coming. ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2021, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-well-balanced-intelligent-q-adherent/955144/35 "2021-12-01T17:52:16Z")
> [@gdave](#): > > They’re probably best known for “Millions Alive Today Will Never Die!” Well, could be true. I plan on living forever. So far, so good! ---
**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2021, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-well-balanced-intelligent-q-adherent/955144/36 "2021-12-01T17:57:16Z")
One way to ensure a long life is to squander your life savings. You will surely live to regret it. ---
**Author:** ![gdave](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gdave/32/3683_2.png) [@gdave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gdave)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2021, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-well-balanced-intelligent-q-adherent/955144/37 "2021-12-01T18:23:39Z")
> [@RickJay](#): > > Well, could be true. I plan on living forever. So far, so good! But were you alive in 1914, which is when that prophecy was supposed to be in effect? (They’ve retconned that a few times, since). By the way, [this is a better link for a summary of their (failed) prophecies.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unfulfilled_Watch_Tower_Society_predictions) Since the 1990s, they seem to have finally given up on specific, falsifiable prophecies and predictions. ---
**Author:** ![Daithi\_Lacha](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/daithi_lacha/32/5430_2.png) [@Daithi\_Lacha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Daithi_Lacha)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2021, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-well-balanced-intelligent-q-adherent/955144/38 "2021-12-01T18:33:43Z")
> [@gdave](#): > > They’re probably best known for “Millions Alive Today Will Never Die!” Also a great album by Tortoise 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![SmartAleq](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smartaleq/32/163_2.png) [@SmartAleq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SmartAleq)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2021, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-well-balanced-intelligent-q-adherent/955144/39 "2021-12-01T19:24:05Z")
Oh, they used to give that whole “no one knows the day or hour” \*_wink wink\*_ speech but circa mid '70s the Watchtower was chock full of speculative articles, all of which emphasized that the generation which saw the beginning of the end, meaning those who were not only ALIVE in 1914, but capable of discernment (so no babies or small children) would witness the actual start of Armageddon and the whole nine yards. Get stood up in front of Jesus and judged, all that claptrap. It amuses me greatly to see just how much they’ve walked all that back, especially since one of the earlier dates had people standing up on hills in white robes carrying suitcases FFS. JWs are pretty much nutcases. ---
**Author:** ![Monstera\_deliciosa](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monstera_deliciosa/32/109_2.png) [@Monstera\_deliciosa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monstera_deliciosa)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2021, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-well-balanced-intelligent-q-adherent/955144/40 "2021-12-01T19:37:23Z")
When I was a young teen, I read one of the JW books that explicitly gave the year of **1975** for Armageddon. I remember this vividly, because I was first quite excited about it as a devoutly religious youngster. Months later I became horrified, because I had decided that I liked the world as it is. I have read that designating a year like that created so many problems for them when it didn’t happen that they haven’t been so explicit since then. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-well-balanced-intelligent-q-adherent/955144.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-well-balanced-intelligent-q-adherent/955144.md?page=3)