# The White Sox - A Brutal Truth **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Tags:** baseball-mlb\ **Created:** [April 16, 2024, 12:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-white-sox-a-brutal-truth/1000363 "2024-04-16T12:30:07Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 27
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2024, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-white-sox-a-brutal-truth/1000363/521 "2024-09-08T21:44:55Z")
> [@pulykamell](#): > > when was the last time the White Sox strung two together? A quick scan of their schedule shows that they won 3 in a row June 27-29. One against Atlanta and two over Colorado. They haven’t won 2 in a row since then. In early May they won 4 in a row; one over Tampa Bay and 3 over Cleveland(!). ---
**Author:** ![Jasmine](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jasmine/32/2964_2.png) [@Jasmine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jasmine)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2024, 11:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-white-sox-a-brutal-truth/1000363/522 "2024-09-09T11:36:55Z")
> [@Railer13](#): > > In early May they won 4 in a row; one over Tampa Bay and 3 over Cleveland(!). Yes and, in fact, had they won a fifth in a row and swept Cleveland, they would have only been eleven games out. Instead, they went on a terrible nose dive that ended up with them being about 30 games under .500 by the All Star Break. ---
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2024, 3:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-white-sox-a-brutal-truth/1000363/523 "2024-09-10T03:22:54Z")
Guardians defeat ChiSox tonight 5-3. Record is now 33-112; on pace to win 37; 17 games to play. ---
**Author:** ![Jasmine](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jasmine/32/2964_2.png) [@Jasmine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jasmine)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2024, 11:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-white-sox-a-brutal-truth/1000363/524 "2024-09-10T11:28:30Z")
Amazingly, our record is even worse against our divisional opponents. I looked it up, and we are an anemic 8-38. That’s an appalling .173 winning percentage. ---
**Author:** ![ZipperJJ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zipperjj/32/211_2.png) [@ZipperJJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZipperJJ)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2024, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-white-sox-a-brutal-truth/1000363/525 "2024-09-10T14:59:04Z")
Our (Guardians) radio announcer was furious last night that we only scored 5 and only won by 2. We were 1/14 RISP and had 11 LOB. Thank you Sox for being so abysmal that we couldn’t even beat ourselves. ---
**Author:** ![Jasmine](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jasmine/32/2964_2.png) [@Jasmine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jasmine)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2024, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-white-sox-a-brutal-truth/1000363/526 "2024-09-10T15:59:39Z")
> [@ZipperJJ](#): > > Thank you Sox for being so abysmal that we couldn’t even beat ourselves. Stop … PLEASE! 🤣 ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2024, 3:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-white-sox-a-brutal-truth/1000363/527 "2024-09-11T03:05:23Z")
Another loss to Cleveland tonight, this one 5-0. On a glorious late summer evening in Chicago, reported attendance was 12,246. 33-113, .226 winning percentage, still on pace for 37-125. ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2024, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-white-sox-a-brutal-truth/1000363/528 "2024-09-11T22:09:06Z")
The Sox finished their three-game series, hosting Cleveland, with an afternoon game today, and lost again, 6-4, for a series sweep by the Guardians. They’ve lost 15 straight games at home, 17 of their last 19 overall, and have been swept for the 24th time this season. Now at 33-114, with fifteen games left. In comparison to the 1962 Mets (40-120): - To win more than 40 games, they would have to finish out at least 8-7. - To lose fewer than 120 games, they would have to finish out at least 10-5. This weekend, they will host three games against the A’s (63-82), then will go on the road for 3 games at the Angels (60-85) – both are bottom-dwellers, too, but not nearly as awful as the Sox. ---
**Author:** ![Chisquirrel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6bbea6/32.png) [@Chisquirrel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chisquirrel)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2024, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-white-sox-a-brutal-truth/1000363/529 "2024-09-11T22:39:49Z")
When bottom-dwellers have almost twice your wins, you know you’re good and properly BAD. ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2024, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-white-sox-a-brutal-truth/1000363/530 "2024-09-11T22:48:39Z")
At this point it’d be a truly amazing thing for them to not less the loss record. This team going 9-6 seems just incredibly far fetched. ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2024, 11:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-white-sox-a-brutal-truth/1000363/531 "2024-09-11T23:30:10Z")
After today’s loss, Sox owner Jerry Reinsdorf released a statement, which amounts to, “yeah, this team is really bad, and it’s probably going to continue to be bad for a while. But, the guys are playing hard.” > [@](#): > > “Everyone in this organization is extremely unhappy with the results of this season, that goes without saying,” Reinsdorf said, according to multiple outlets. "This year has been very painful for all, especially our fans. We did not arrive here overnight, and solutions won’t happen overnight either. Going back to last year, we have made difficult decisions and changes to begin building a foundation for future success. > > “What has impressed me is how our players and staff have continued to work and bring a professional attitude to the ballpark each day despite a historically difficult season. No one is happy with the results, but I commend the continued effort. I expect to have more to say at the end of the season.” > **[White Sox chairman Jerry Reinsdorf releases statement surrounding...](https://www.nbcsportschicago.com/mlb/chicago-white-sox/white-sox-news/white-sox-chairman-jerry-reinsdorf-releases-statement-surrounding-historically-difficult-season-report/593067/)** > > Reinsdorf commends the continued effort of his players and staff as their season reaches dangerously historic levels ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2024, 11:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-white-sox-a-brutal-truth/1000363/532 "2024-09-11T23:52:57Z")
Well, yeah, I don’t think many of us blame the current players. The blame is pretty clearly on the folks who put them on the field at all, especially Reinsdorf. On the other hand, I actually am pretty amped to see the record fall. It might actually be harder for a team to be this bad than to win it all. A lot of things have to go pear-shaped simultaneously for that to happen. ---
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2024, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-white-sox-a-brutal-truth/1000363/533 "2024-09-12T00:07:01Z")
> [@kenobi\_65](#): > > they will host three games against the A’s (63-82), then will go on the road for 3 games at the Angels (60-85) To finish out their schedule, after the Angels: 3 at the Padres (82-64) 3 at home against the aforementioned A’s 3 at the Tigers (74-71) If they finish 6-9, they will have a final record of 39-123. Both of those marks would be worse than the 1962 Mets. 6 out of the final 15 is a .400 winning percentage. Their current winning percentage is .224. ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2024, 12:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-white-sox-a-brutal-truth/1000363/534 "2024-09-12T00:08:35Z")
> [@Railer13](#): > > 3 at the Padres (82-64) > 3 at home against the aforementioned A’s > 3 at the Tigers (74-71) Actually, that middle set is against the Angels again. ---
**Author:** ![Kent\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kent_clark/32/105_2.png) [@Kent\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kent_Clark)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2024, 12:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-white-sox-a-brutal-truth/1000363/535 "2024-09-12T00:22:35Z")
Any chance that people will actually show up for that Angels series in the hopes they’ll see the record broken? ---
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2024, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-white-sox-a-brutal-truth/1000363/536 "2024-09-12T00:48:33Z")
> [@kenobi\_65](#): > > Actually, that middle set is against the Angels again Yes, another brain fart on my part. Thanks for the correction. ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2024, 2:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-white-sox-a-brutal-truth/1000363/537 "2024-09-12T02:41:50Z")
> [@Kent\_Clark](#): > > Any chance that people will actually show up for that Angels series in the hopes they’ll see the record broken? If it’s to see the potential loss #121, it wouldn’t surprise me if they get an above-average draw. However, unless they manage to win several games in the next few days, signs would point to loss #121 happening next weekend, in San Diego. ---
**Author:** ![Ponch8](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ponch8/32/9883_2.png) [@Ponch8](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ponch8)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2024, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-white-sox-a-brutal-truth/1000363/538 "2024-09-12T14:57:04Z")
There’s also the modern record for lowest win percentage to consider (1916 Philadelphia A’s, who finished 36-117 for a .235 win percentage). Assuming there are no rainouts or other cancellations, The White Sox need to finish the season 39-123 to avoid breaking this record, meaning they need to go 6-9 the rest of the way. Ten more losses out of the final 15 games, and the record is all theirs! ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2024, 2:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-white-sox-a-brutal-truth/1000363/539 "2024-09-13T02:13:35Z")
> [@kenobi\_65](#): > > After today’s loss, Sox owner Jerry Reinsdorf released a statement, which amounts to, “yeah, this team is really bad, and it’s probably going to continue to be bad for a while. But, the guys are playing hard.” I mean, at least he said something, and in fairness it’s true the team has not exploded in some sort of bozo eruption. Anyway, 33-114. The team is now at the point that there is very little difference between their wins (33) and expected wins (36.) Reaching even 40 wins would require a 7-8 finish, which doesn’t seem possible for them, but you never know. A few homers here and there. ---
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2024, 2:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-white-sox-a-brutal-truth/1000363/540 "2024-09-13T02:34:13Z")
> [@RickJay](#): > > A few homers here and there. True, although their leading home run hitter this season is now playing for the Royals. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-white-sox-a-brutal-truth/1000363.md?page=26) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-white-sox-a-brutal-truth/1000363.md?page=28)