# The White Sox - A Brutal Truth **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Tags:** baseball-mlb\ **Created:** [April 16, 2024, 12:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-white-sox-a-brutal-truth/1000363 "2024-04-16T12:30:07Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 28
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2024, 4:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-white-sox-a-brutal-truth/1000363/541 "2024-09-14T04:46:03Z")
The Sox lost to the A’s tonight, 2-0. Garrett Crochet got the loss, though he didn’t pitch poorly, giving up three hits and a run, with no walks, in four innings of work. Crochet was the Sox’s lone representative at the All-Star Game, and was widely expected to be traded before the trade deadline, until his agent started making demands about how he would be used by a new team. He’s now 6-12, and hasn’t had a win since June 7th (to be fair, the Sox haven’t had many, either). He hasn’t pitched more than four innings in an outing since the end of June – they’re likely trying to save his arm from overwork, but OTOH, if they’re concerned that he’s already pitched more innings this season than he ever has before, why are they even still using him? The Sox are now 33-115, .223 winning percentage with 14 to go. They are on a 36-126 pace. ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2024, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-white-sox-a-brutal-truth/1000363/542 "2024-09-15T02:23:49Z")
The Sox beat the A’s tonight, 7-6. on a walk-off home run by Andrew Benintendi to lead off the bottom of the 9th. Previously in the game, the Sox had blown leads of 3-0 and 6-3. 34-115 with 13 games left. To surpass the 1962 Mets’ 40 wins, they will have to go at least 7-6; to lose fewer than the Mets’ 120 losses, they will have to go at least 9-4. ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2024, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-white-sox-a-brutal-truth/1000363/543 "2024-09-15T22:26:24Z")
A two-game winning streak for the Sox, after defeating the A’s, 4-3, this afternoon. It also represents a rare series win for the Sox, taking two of three from Oakland. Now 35-115 (.233), with 12 games to go. Coming up is a six-game West Coast trip, with three games each at the Angels (Mon-Wed), then the Padres (Fri-Sun). ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2024, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-white-sox-a-brutal-truth/1000363/544 "2024-09-16T19:12:32Z")
Uh oh. They might play too well to achieve their destiny. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2024, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-white-sox-a-brutal-truth/1000363/545 "2024-09-16T19:24:06Z")
🎶 _You’re the worst… Around…_ _Nothing’s ever gonna help you out!_ 🎶 ---
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2024, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-white-sox-a-brutal-truth/1000363/546 "2024-09-16T19:25:39Z")
> [@RickJay](#): > > They might play too well to achieve their destiny. Tonight they begin a 6-game west-coast road trip with the first of three against the Angels, followed by 3 against the Padres. The Angels currently hold the longest losing streak in MLB, which is 5 games. The ChiSox have a golden opportunity to prove all of us wrong. ---
**Author:** ![Clawdio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/d07c76/32.png) [@Clawdio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clawdio)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2024, 6:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-white-sox-a-brutal-truth/1000363/547 "2024-09-17T06:15:53Z")
Three game win-streak! These Chi-Sox are peaking at just the right time! ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2024, 1:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-white-sox-a-brutal-truth/1000363/548 "2024-09-17T13:58:05Z")
36-115, so 11 games left. Making it to 40 is no longer than much of a long shot. Avoiding 121 losses is even not that unlikely; they absolutely could pull off a 7-4 run. Ya never know. Even just 5-6 would mean they have more losses than the 1962 Mets, but a better winning percentage - 41-121 is better than 40-120. ---
**Author:** ![Jasmine](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jasmine/32/2964_2.png) [@Jasmine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jasmine)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2024, 2:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-white-sox-a-brutal-truth/1000363/549 "2024-09-17T14:05:07Z")
> [@RickJay](#): > > Even just 5-6 would mean they have more losses than the 1962 Mets, but a better winning percentage - 41-121 is better than 40-120. Wow, we’ve been reduced to hoping for that incredibly meager “accomplishment”? 😳 P.S. I’ll take it. 😩 ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2024, 2:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-white-sox-a-brutal-truth/1000363/550 "2024-09-17T14:08:53Z")
Hey, it’s something. This sort of thing can be very motivating to the players. ---
**Author:** ![Jasmine](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jasmine/32/2964_2.png) [@Jasmine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jasmine)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2024, 2:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-white-sox-a-brutal-truth/1000363/551 "2024-09-17T14:10:20Z")
> [@RickJay](#): > > This sort of thing can be very motivating to the players. Well, I guess if you are starving, a stale crust of bread tastes pretty good. 🙄 ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2024, 2:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-white-sox-a-brutal-truth/1000363/552 "2024-09-17T14:12:40Z")
> [@RickJay](#): > > This sort of thing can be very motivating to the players. Given the quality of the roster, I don’t know if that much motivation exists in the world. But they’ve got 5 more games against the Angels and who knows? Maybe they can take one or two off the Tigers or Padres with a bit of luck. ---
**Author:** ![Dinsdale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/97f17d/32.png) [@Dinsdale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dinsdale)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2024, 2:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-white-sox-a-brutal-truth/1000363/553 "2024-09-17T14:36:01Z")
I’m not at all a baseball fan, but used to be a sox fan and 2 BILs still are. I would think if I were a fan I’d prefer that this year’s team hit the record as the all time worst, instead of “just another shitty year.” Talked w/ my BIL last Sunday, tho, and he disagreed. Can’t imagine how he makes himself continue to watch the games… ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2024, 12:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-white-sox-a-brutal-truth/1000363/554 "2024-09-19T00:17:33Z")
The Sox lost in thirteen innings to the Angels this afternoon, 4-3. After having won three straight (two against the A’s, then the series opener against Los Angeles), they’ve now lost two in a row. They’re now at 36-117, for a .235 winning percentage, with nine games to go; currently on pace for 38-124. If they lose at least 3 more, they will tie the '62 Mets for most losses in the modern era. After an off day on Thursday, they start a three-game weekend series at San Diego, then return home for another series against the Angels, before finishing the season at Detroit. ---
**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2024, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-white-sox-a-brutal-truth/1000363/555 "2024-09-19T00:30:00Z")
I was amused when I noticed their three game winning streak put them tied for the second longest winning streak in the MLB at the time. Were it not for the Padres (I believe), they’d be first! ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2024, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-white-sox-a-brutal-truth/1000363/556 "2024-09-19T16:33:20Z")
So to break it down, if the Sox go: 9-0 or 8-1 they lose 118 or fewer 7-2 They lose 119, tying the AL record for losses (2003 Tigers) but avoiding tying the 1962 Mets 6-3 They go 42-120 and tie the 1962 Mets in losses but have more wins 5-4 They go 41-121, breaking the loss record, but have a slightly better overall record than the 1962 Mets 4-5 They go 40-122, thus having a worse record than the 1962 Mets 3-6 They go 39-123, thus being the only team in the 162-game era to fail to win 40 games (not counting strike years) 2-7 They go 38-124 and have the worst winning percentage in the modern era, lower than the 1916 A’s 1-8 They go 37-125 0-9 36-126 ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2024, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-white-sox-a-brutal-truth/1000363/557 "2024-09-19T16:49:04Z")
Beat up on the Angels, steal a couple games from San Diego and Detroit, and Chicago can escape complete ignominy. It could happen. ---
**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2024, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-white-sox-a-brutal-truth/1000363/558 "2024-09-19T16:58:30Z")
> [@RickJay](#): > > 3-6 > They go 39-123, thus being the only team in the 162-game era to fail to win 40 games (not counting strike years) This (or worse) is what I’m aiming for. I don’t care about the loss record so much as the \<40 wins record. ---
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2024, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-white-sox-a-brutal-truth/1000363/559 "2024-09-19T17:35:02Z")
Tigers have been the hottest team in baseball lately, just finishing a sweep in KC and moving within a 1/2 game of the last wild card. They very well may be in the thick of the race in the last series of the season. Padres are leading the NL wild-card race and will be looking to hold that lead this weekend. The Angels might be the best chance for the Sox to win a game or 2 or 3. ---
**Author:** ![nightshadea](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/7ba0ec/32.png) [@nightshadea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nightshadea)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2024, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-white-sox-a-brutal-truth/1000363/560 "2024-09-19T21:14:18Z")
damn you ! now i have that song in my head … [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-white-sox-a-brutal-truth/1000363.md?page=27) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-white-sox-a-brutal-truth/1000363.md?page=29)