# The White Sox - A Brutal Truth

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**Category:** The Game Room\
**Tags:** baseball-mlb\
**Created:** [April 16, 2024, 12:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-white-sox-a-brutal-truth/1000363 "2024-04-16T12:30:07Z")\
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**Post date:** [October 23, 2024, 12:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-white-sox-a-brutal-truth/1000363/701 "2024-10-23T00:24:45Z")

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> [@Kent\_Clark](#):
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> > [@hajario](#):
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> > Don’t the uber wealthy get to tap into that potential with low rate sweetheart loans?
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> The uber wealthy get to the uber part by getting other people to finance things like new stadiums, not by taking out low-interest loans.

I don’t think @hajario was suggesting this as a mechanism for financing a new stadium. It was in reaction to the notion that a team’s value was only potential until it was sold. Nope, the owner can indeed get loans collateralized by the team to support his hobby of skeet shooting Picassos, if he so chooses.

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**Post date:** [October 30, 2024, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-white-sox-a-brutal-truth/1000363/702 "2024-10-30T15:10:30Z")

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> [@silenus](#):
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> > [@Munch](#):
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> > Owners could certainly sell off a portion of the team, maybe to the city (or a Community Development Organiztion) to raise cash for a stadium - but they’d never do that. There’s no money in it,
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> The other owners would never allow it. Bad precedent to set.

I’m not sure about that. Most teams have minority owners. Even the Steinbrenners own only 70% of the Yankees. (The evolution of the Steinbrenner’s ownership is interesting but not part of this thread. Let’s just say George did well with his initial $168,000 investment).

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**Post date:** [November 1, 2024, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-white-sox-a-brutal-truth/1000363/703 "2024-11-01T23:10:54Z")

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The Sox have declined to pick up their option on infielder Yoan Moncada, to whom they would have had to pay $25 million in 2025 if they’d kept him. Instead, they pay Moncada a $5 million buyout, and he becomes a free agent.

Moncada had been one of the Sox’s best players in 2019-21, but he’d been frequently injured since, and only played in 12 games in 2024. Even so, he still had the second-highest bWAR score (0.3) of any batter on the Sox roster last year.

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