# "The White Stripes" on The Daily Show -- Uh...  What?

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [December 2, 2005, 7:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-white-stripes-on-the-daily-show-uh-what/333701 "2005-12-02T07:42:40Z")\
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**Author:** ![vibrotronica](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/a9a28c/32.png) [@vibrotronica](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vibrotronica)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2005, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-white-stripes-on-the-daily-show-uh-what/333701/41 "2005-12-02T20:43:32Z")

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Figurines? They’re action figures, damnit!

- **vibrotronica** , who is secretly Wolf Blitzer.

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2005, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-white-stripes-on-the-daily-show-uh-what/333701/42 "2005-12-02T20:44:07Z")

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> [@pravnik](#):
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> Be careful, man. Moore will eat all your food, and Blitzer will corner you for _hours_ about his damn anime and figurine collections.

I’m Italian and my Wife is Jewish. We always cook too much food. Besides I have friends even bigger than Moore. (in size I mean)  
A far as Blitzer goes, I follow the **Ignatowski rule** : \*\*\*Smile knowingly and walk away. \* \*\*

Jim

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2005, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-white-stripes-on-the-daily-show-uh-what/333701/43 "2005-12-02T20:45:05Z")

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> [@SuaSponte](#):
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> The image of Ted Koppel backing up Def Leppard (?) was, to me, hilarious.
> 
> Sua

That was Zeppelin, not Leppard.

Meh, I’m not a fan of the White Stripes (and they always remind me of Punk Rock Kittens from [RatherGood.com](http://RatherGood.com)). But the rest of the show was pretty funny.

“OH MY GOD!!! WE’RE ALL GONNA GET AIDS!!!”

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**Author:** ![control-z](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/eada6e/32.png) [@control-z](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/control-z)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2005, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-white-stripes-on-the-daily-show-uh-what/333701/44 "2005-12-02T20:54:00Z")

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> [@Guinastasia](#):
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> That was Zeppelin, not Leppard.  
> Meh, I’m not a fan of the White Stripes (and they always remind me of Punk Rock Kittens from [RatherGood.com](http://RatherGood.com)). But the rest of the show was pretty funny.

LOL, they remind you of the punk rock kittens because the music for that is “Fell in Love With a Girl” by… The White Stripes!

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2005, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-white-stripes-on-the-daily-show-uh-what/333701/45 "2005-12-02T21:05:37Z")

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I know that. That’s why I cannot to this day hear a song by the WS and not think of that.

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**Post date:** [December 2, 2005, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-white-stripes-on-the-daily-show-uh-what/333701/46 "2005-12-02T21:10:53Z")

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> [@Guinastasia](#):
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> I know that. That’s why I cannot to this day hear a song by the WS and not think of that.

Heh, then maybe it was a bad idea for them to give permission to [Rathergood.com](http://Rathergood.com) for the use of the song! 🙂 Assuming they did.

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**Author:** ![Larry\_Mudd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f14d63/32.png) [@Larry\_Mudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Mudd)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2005, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-white-stripes-on-the-daily-show-uh-what/333701/47 "2005-12-02T21:50:38Z")

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> [@Guinastasia](#):
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> But the rest of the show was pretty funny.  
> “OH MY GOD!!! WE’RE ALL GONNA GET AIDS!!!”

Definitely – there just t’weren’t enough of it. (I wonder if Bush internally kicked himself when the bit of Ambassador Tobias “doing a heck of a job” slipped out? I’m sure the Ambassador started mentally updating his resume. “Thanks a lot, George.”)

I think Jon went the wrong way with his response to “We’re working with our partners to expand prevention efforts that emphasize abstinence, being faithful in marriage, and using condemns correctly,” though. I would have thought something like this:

> [@](#):
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> Ah, the correct use of “condemns” – the old stand-by.
> 
> [terrible Bush impression]  
> “Sex is bad, okay? If you have sex outside of marriage, you’ll go to hell – but first, you’ll get AIDS. Heh heh heh.”  
> [/terrible Bush impression]

I was surprised that he left the next line alone, too:

> [@George W. Bush](#):
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> ]This strategy – pioneered by Africans – has proven its effectiveness, and America stands behind the ABC approach to prevention.

Proven its effectiveness? Africa has the highest rate of new HIV infections on the planet. They’ve got less than ten percent of the population, 60% of the HIV patients, and more than three fifths of the world’s new infections in 2005.

Two things stand out about that – he emphasizes that it’s unnamed Africans who are giving abstinence programs such prominence, when the [general perception seems to be that it’s Bush Doctrine](http://www.guardian.co.uk/christmasappeal2005/story/0,16796,1654865,00.html), and he’s quiet about what intelligence is behind his assertion that the strategy is proven. The only authority I know of who’s made such a claim is [that Pope fella](http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/L01483682.htm), and he’s not any more forthcoming with hard data.

Grrrr.

As for the White Stripes vs. Wolf Blitzer, I would much rather party with Wolf. He at least _knows_ that he’s as bland as blancmange, and wouldn’t irritate people by posturing as “edgy” while boring the tits off them. Besides, Tina Fey had sex dreams about him a few years back. That’s hot.

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2005, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-white-stripes-on-the-daily-show-uh-what/333701/48 "2005-12-02T22:32:06Z")

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> [@jrfranchi](#):
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> Yes, there have been nights when I wish they would.

Oh, there are many nights I wish they had an extra 10 minutes, if not half an hour. But they seem confident it wouldn’t work, or that it’d be too much work. Either way, they’re not going to add time just because they had a musical guest. I learned more from the first song than I did from the interviews with Paul Rudd - “this guy’s a pretty badass guitar player” vs. “man, I hate Paul Rudd, whoever he is.”

> [@Hentor the Barbarian](#):
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> I haven’t seen the White Stripes before, although I’ve heard all the hype. I must just be too old, but I wasn’t getting it. When did Kid Rock decide to adopt a 1940’s gangster persona?

Are you saying Jack White looks like Kid Rock? 'Cause I can’t imagine what the other resemblance would be. Kid Rock raps and sometimes does country songs. Jack White sings and plays guitar in what’s usually a hard rock band. I’m really not seeing the connection.

> [@Diogenes the Cynic](#):
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> [Slippery Slope Guy] I don’t like the precedent. Sure the White Stripes aren’t that objectionable but it’s a slippery slope. The next thing you know it’s going to be Ashlee Simpson Week and there’s not a damn thing you can do about it!" [/Slippery Slope Guy]

I think it’s weird that Carolla came up with something that clever - not to mention Doper-ish.

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**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2005, 10:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-white-stripes-on-the-daily-show-uh-what/333701/49 "2005-12-02T22:54:20Z")

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> [@Marley23](#):
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> Are you saying Jack White looks like Kid Rock?

Yes.

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**Author:** ![vibrotronica](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/a9a28c/32.png) [@vibrotronica](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vibrotronica)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2005, 11:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-white-stripes-on-the-daily-show-uh-what/333701/50 "2005-12-02T23:27:52Z")

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Kid Rock is blonde.

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**Post date:** [December 3, 2005, 1:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-white-stripes-on-the-daily-show-uh-what/333701/51 "2005-12-03T01:37:04Z")

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Jack White wears a hat.

This is fun!

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**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2005, 2:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-white-stripes-on-the-daily-show-uh-what/333701/52 "2005-12-03T02:13:11Z")

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> [@vibrotronica](#):
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> They’re a lot more than two songs. Jack White is one of the best songwriters working today. Two words: “Hotel Yorba.”

Okay, I checked out Hotel Yorba. It was nice to hear a song of theirs that didn’t use the same staccato formula as the other two, but… our tastes are going to have to differ. I can’t say that it makes him anything close to the best songwriter today in my book. Sorry.

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**Author:** ![Hey\_It\_s\_That\_Guy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/6f9a4e/32.png) [@Hey\_It\_s\_That\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hey_It_s_That_Guy)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2005, 2:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-white-stripes-on-the-daily-show-uh-what/333701/53 "2005-12-03T02:29:23Z")

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Just curious, who DO you consider the best songwriter today? IMO, it hardly counts to go back to the “dinosaurs” like Paul McCartney and Bob Dylan, who are long past their prime, or even the long-term stalwarts like Tom Waits and Leonard Cohen.

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**Post date:** [December 3, 2005, 3:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-white-stripes-on-the-daily-show-uh-what/333701/54 "2005-12-03T03:38:08Z")

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If people want to get feisty about the White Stripes - fine, another thread. I am happy to defend them there. I think they’re worth it and am happy to explain why.

Back to the OP - should a rock band have been on TDS? Well, for the most part, no - I think think the point was that the WS were geekster-hip cool, much like TDS tries to be (and I think succeeds). The fact that Colbert - Mr. “Hey Viggo Mortensen is on so I will geek out and offer a 5-minute description of Aragorn son of Arathorn is” goes ahead and asks an obscure question to Jon about a track of their second CD (which is great, btw) - tells us where TDS intended to position them…

Oh boy - I hope that makes sense…

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**Post date:** [December 3, 2005, 4:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-white-stripes-on-the-daily-show-uh-what/333701/55 "2005-12-03T04:38:41Z")

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Strange… I record all the Daily shows. The program guide for last night’s ‘Daily Show’ said, “The White Stripes perform”, but it was a lame interview with Nancy Pelosi. Which night were they on?

And which two songs did they play?

I love the White Stripes, btw. Jack White is a talent on par with some of the greatest in rock history, in my opinion. And not just rock - when he tries bluegrass, he makes some of the best I’ve heard. He produced Loretta Lynn’s album and wrote some of the music, and damned if they didn’t turn out one of the best country albums in years, and maybe Loretta’s best ever. He can do blues as well as anyone, rock as hard as anyone.

**Hentor:** I wouldn’t have picked ‘Hotel Yorba’ as the best example of the White Stripes’ music. Try this set:

**Death Letter** from _De Stijl_  
**You’re Pretty Good Looking (for a girl)** from _De Stijl_  
**Ball and Biscuit** from _Elephant_  
**Girl, You Have no Faith in Medicine** from _Elephant_  
**The Hardest Button to Button** from _Elephant_  
**Blue Orchid** from _Get Behind Me Satan_  
**My Doorbell** from _Get Behind Me Satan_

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**Post date:** [December 3, 2005, 5:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-white-stripes-on-the-daily-show-uh-what/333701/56 "2005-12-03T05:03:43Z")

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> [@Sam Stone](#):
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> Strange… I record all the Daily shows. The program guide for last night’s ‘Daily Show’ said, “The White Stripes perform”, but it was a lame interview with Nancy Pelosi. Which night were they on?
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> And which two songs did they play?

The first song they played was “The Denial Twist,” and they closed the show with “My Doorbell.”

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**Post date:** [December 3, 2005, 5:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-white-stripes-on-the-daily-show-uh-what/333701/57 "2005-12-03T05:16:52Z")

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> [@Big Bad Voodoo Lou](#):
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> Just curious, who DO you consider the best songwriter today? IMO, it hardly counts to go back to the “dinosaurs” like Paul McCartney and Bob Dylan, who are long past their prime, or even the long-term stalwarts like Tom Waits and Leonard Cohen.

Comparing Jack White to Bob Dylan is like comparing Elmore Leonard to William Shakespeare: geniuses all, but not doing the same thing.

To answer your question though, the best songwriters living are Jane Siberry and Stephin Merritt. Next question!

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**Post date:** [December 3, 2005, 5:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-white-stripes-on-the-daily-show-uh-what/333701/58 "2005-12-03T05:22:47Z")

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> [@lissener](#):
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> Comparing Jack White to Bob Dylan is like comparing Elmore Leonard to William Shakespeare: geniuses all, but not doing the same thing.
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> To answer your question though, the best songwriters living are Jane Siberry and Stephin Merritt. Next question!

I like the little I’ve heard from Merritt’s Magnetic Fields, but I’m unfamiliar with Jane Siberry. Would you mind starting a “good songwriters” thread or something, to avoid further derailing this one and getting people pissed at us? I am intrigued.

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**Post date:** [December 3, 2005, 5:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-white-stripes-on-the-daily-show-uh-what/333701/59 "2005-12-03T05:28:09Z")

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> [@Snooooopy](#):
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> Flavor of the month? It sure has been a LONG month! Their breakout hit was a couple of albums ago.

Heh. I guess you got a point there. Not the best phrasing on my part. I was just pointing out that Just because a band is overhyped doesn’t mean it isn’t good.

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**Post date:** [December 3, 2005, 5:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-white-stripes-on-the-daily-show-uh-what/333701/60 "2005-12-03T05:51:43Z")

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> [@Larry Borgia](#):
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> Heh. I guess you got a point there. Not the best phrasing on my part. I was just pointing out that Just because a band is overhyped doesn’t mean it isn’t good.

But in this case, they are. 😉

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