# The whitest movie ever?

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**Created:** [March 29, 2020, 9:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-whitest-movie-ever/850571 "2020-03-29T09:22:57Z")\
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**Post date:** [March 29, 2020, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-whitest-movie-ever/850571/21 "2020-03-29T18:30:27Z")

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I’d say that the [Whit Stillman](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whit_Stillman) trilogy (Metropolitan, Barcelona and The Last Days of Disco) are pretty white.

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**Post date:** [March 29, 2020, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-whitest-movie-ever/850571/22 "2020-03-29T18:36:55Z")

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LOTR trilogy

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**Post date:** [March 29, 2020, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-whitest-movie-ever/850571/23 "2020-03-29T18:45:29Z")

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_Nanook of the North_ is so white they have to wear snow goggles. Great film.

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**Post date:** [March 29, 2020, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-whitest-movie-ever/850571/24 "2020-03-29T18:50:28Z")

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I’m black and a fan of them, but most Wes Anderson movies are _aggressively_ white.

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**Post date:** [March 30, 2020, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-whitest-movie-ever/850571/25 "2020-03-30T00:30:13Z")

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> [@Chronos](#):
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> The movie version of _12 Angry Men_ might have been all white, but I’m not so sure about the original play. Didn’t one of the other jurors say something about growing up in the same environment as the defendant?

One of the jurors, the one played by Jack Klugman, had grown up in a slum and mentioned having witnessed knife fights as a kid. There was also a European immigrant juror, played by George Voskovec. Voskovec himself was Czech, but I don’t recall if the film identified what country the character was supposed to be from.

Not many people seem to remember that there was a TV-movie remake of _Twelve Angry Men_ (on Showtime, I think) done in the late 1990s, with Jack Lemmon in the Henry Fonda role. Its casting included several black actors, including Courtney B. Vance, Ossie Davis, and Mykelti Williamson (although the jury is still all male). I thought it was okay, although not as good as the original film.

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**Post date:** [March 30, 2020, 12:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-whitest-movie-ever/850571/26 "2020-03-30T00:44:23Z")

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I submit 1957’s _The Story of Mankind_ with white Native Americans and white ancient Egyptians.

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**Post date:** [March 30, 2020, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-whitest-movie-ever/850571/27 "2020-03-30T00:50:44Z")

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There have been several productions of _Twelve Angry Men_ with twelve women on the jury.

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**Post date:** [March 30, 2020, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-whitest-movie-ever/850571/28 "2020-03-30T00:57:36Z")

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Even the African Americans in _Birth of a Nation_ were white.

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**Post date:** [March 30, 2020, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-whitest-movie-ever/850571/29 "2020-03-30T02:04:12Z")

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> [@Wendell\_Wagner](#):
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> The reviews on the IMDb describe _What Love Looks Like_ as being an independent film. So while it may not be Hallmark Channel movie, it looks like it’s intended for the same audience. This looks like it’s made by someone who wanted to do an independent film that couldn’t get money from any obvious source like the Hallmark Channel, nor could they get it shown at any film festival. It’s hard to tell if it’s any good given that apparently none of us have seen it. If you have seen it, let us know.

It’s rated 4.9 on IMDB, so it probably isn’t very good.

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**Post date:** [March 30, 2020, 2:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-whitest-movie-ever/850571/30 "2020-03-30T02:34:42Z")

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I can see that it got some bad ratings, but I just thought it would be interesting if someone here has seen it and can describe it.

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**Post date:** [March 30, 2020, 2:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-whitest-movie-ever/850571/31 "2020-03-30T02:44:57Z")

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The Big Chill is the whitest movie ever, that’s been verified by science.

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**Post date:** [March 30, 2020, 3:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-whitest-movie-ever/850571/32 "2020-03-30T03:01:06Z")

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> [@Jophiel](#):
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> I mean, she’s right on the poster. Seems as though someone could find whiter than that.

It isn’t just the number of white people but also the degree of whiteness of them. They make Mormon missionaries look like hippies.

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**Post date:** [March 30, 2020, 3:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-whitest-movie-ever/850571/33 "2020-03-30T03:03:39Z")

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Any [Merchant/Ivory film](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merchant_Ivory_Productions) that isn’t set in India.  
Of course, they pale (no pun intended) against the whitest TV shows of all time. I don’t care if they featured black singers and dancers, “Sing Along With Mitch” and “Lawrence Welk” made even the whitest film look like a Spike Lee joint.

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**Post date:** [March 30, 2020, 3:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-whitest-movie-ever/850571/34 "2020-03-30T03:13:51Z")

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> [@dropzone](#):
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> Even the African Americans in _Birth of a Nation_ were white.

So were the “natives” in “Gilligan’s Island.”

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**Post date:** [March 30, 2020, 3:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-whitest-movie-ever/850571/35 "2020-03-30T03:42:19Z")

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> [@planetcory](#):
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> I’m black and a fan of them, but most Wes Anderson movies are _aggressively_ white.

I don’t know about that.

_Royal Tenenbaums_ has one major black character who’s a big part of the story. _The Darjeeling Limited_ is set in India. The titular hotel of _The Grand Budapest Hotel_ is owned by a guy who…I’m not sure where’s he’s supposed to be from, but it’s somewhere in the Near Eastern region. (That character is arguably the main character of the movie.) _The Life Aquatic_ has a pretty multicultural cast.

_Moonrise Kingdom_ is, I think, his most “white” movie.

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**Post date:** [March 30, 2020, 3:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-whitest-movie-ever/850571/36 "2020-03-30T03:46:42Z")

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It’s not that all the actors are white that creeps me out. It’s that they’re acting soooo white…

It’s the _Golly Gee Willikers!_ fakey wholesomeness.

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**Post date:** [March 30, 2020, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-whitest-movie-ever/850571/37 "2020-03-30T17:33:52Z")

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> [@planetcory](#):
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> I’m black and a fan of them, but most Wes Anderson movies are _aggressively_ white.

I agree for the most part although Danny Glover played a prominent role in _The Royal Tenenbaums_. Here’s the thing about movie productions being accused of racial bias in casting that I’m confused about (and I don’t want to start a hijack): does Wes Anderson have actors in mind while he’s creating? If not, does he send out a casting call stating that he is principally interested in ONLY white actors auditioning? Is he making his creative choices based on his personal experiences, ones in which while growing up he was surrounded only by white people? I remember the great advice given to budding authors: “Write about what you know.”

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**Post date:** [March 30, 2020, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-whitest-movie-ever/850571/38 "2020-03-30T17:49:07Z")

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Check out his [AmEx commercial](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rbO3BS0Uzm0). My simplification is that Anderson is kinda like Tim Burton, but with a 1950’s national geographic, pastel aesthetic instead of a creepy 1980’s goth one.

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**Post date:** [March 30, 2020, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-whitest-movie-ever/850571/39 "2020-03-30T19:03:49Z")

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> [@planetcory](#):
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> I’m black and a fan of them, but most Wes Anderson movies are _aggressively_ white.

I’m also a fan of his movies, but I have to agree. While there are people of color in his movies and he does seem to be trying, his overall point of view comes from a very specific white perspective, where the boarding school kids of Rushmore are kind of the default and other people are interesting for how they deviate from that norm.

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**Post date:** [March 30, 2020, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-whitest-movie-ever/850571/40 "2020-03-30T19:19:40Z")

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My first thought was “A Fish Called Wanda.”

But for ‘whitey’ white, I think my vote actually goes to any of those ‘we got a dog and now hilarity has ensued’ movies. I’m specifically thinking of “[Beethoven](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0103786/)”, but there are others.

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