# The whole internet pits Dr. Oz!

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-whole-internet-pits-dr-oz/704454>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [November 12, 2014, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-whole-internet-pits-dr-oz/704454 "2014-11-12T15:46:03Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 18\
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**Author:** ![Askthepizzaguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/askthepizzaguy/32/9405_2.png) [@Askthepizzaguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Askthepizzaguy)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2015, 6:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-whole-internet-pits-dr-oz/704454/61 "2015-02-09T06:38:25Z")

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I feel like there should be mandatory classes at the high school level- once you go from 8th to 9th grade, we’re going to cut out the bullshit and make-believe and teach you about reality.

Every major psuedoscience and scam “treatment” and mythology and cult should be listed, and described, and it should be explained very slowly and very carefully why they are unsupported, unscientific, unproven, or proven outright to be fraudulent.

And then we need to ask the children which of those things are really real in spite of what they just learned. And then, we need to force them to re-take the class (and/or slap them repeatedly) until they give the correct answer, which is none of the above.

Then, after that, they’re on their own. You get swindled after that, that’s the price you pay for being stupid.

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**Author:** ![Count\_Blucher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Count\_Blucher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Count_Blucher)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2015, 2:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-whole-internet-pits-dr-oz/704454/62 "2015-02-09T14:08:14Z")

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> [@Nuveena](#):
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> The same reason Willie Sutton robbed banks.

…same reason Dupont handed out speeding tickets…

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**Author:** ![johnpost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f17d59/32.png) [@johnpost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/johnpost)\
**Post date:** [April 17, 2015, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-whole-internet-pits-dr-oz/704454/63 "2015-04-17T17:59:34Z")

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more docs chime in.

Group Of Doctors Asks Columbia University To Fire Dr. Oz

> **[Dr. Oz Defends Medical Advice After Calls For Dismissal From Columbia University](https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/group-of-doctors-asks-columbia-university-to-fire-116580311342.html)**
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> Doctor Mehmet Oz defended himself on Friday amid calls for his dismissal from his position as the Vice Chair of the Department of Surgery at Columbia University.

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**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\
**Post date:** [April 17, 2015, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-whole-internet-pits-dr-oz/704454/64 "2015-04-17T18:42:27Z")

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> [@johnpost](#):
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> more docs chime in.
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> Group Of Doctors Asks Columbia University To Fire Dr. Oz
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> [Dr. Oz Defends Medical Advice After Calls For Dismissal From Columbia University](https://www.yahoo.com/health/group-of-doctors-asks-columbia-university-to-fire-116580311342.html)

And Columbia has declined because FREEDOM!

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**Author:** ![vd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b19c9b/32.png) [@vd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vd)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2015, 2:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-whole-internet-pits-dr-oz/704454/65 "2015-04-18T14:00:02Z")

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> [@Strassia](#):
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> It doesn’t destroy flesh. It will damage your eyes, but that would take longer than a flight. The real danger is fire. The spark from unplugging a USB port could light your laptop(and lap) up like you were covered in lighter fluid.

… which, to be fair, destroys flesh. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Slithy\_Tove](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slithy_tove/32/18248_2.png) [@Slithy\_Tove](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slithy_Tove)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2015, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-whole-internet-pits-dr-oz/704454/66 "2015-04-18T15:15:16Z")

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Columbia deigns (my new favorite SDMB word) not, in the name of tenure. Tenure is explained to us as a protection for the academic mind against persecution.

And for all this time now I’d thought tenure was the power that enabled a professor to decide that the $200 textbook his students were required to purchase was coincidentally the $200 textbook he or she had authored, and if anyone called bullshit on it they could go piss up a rope.

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**Author:** ![Canadjun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/76d3ee/32.png) [@Canadjun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Canadjun)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2015, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-whole-internet-pits-dr-oz/704454/67 "2015-04-18T18:19:14Z")

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> [@Slithy\_Tove](#):
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> Columbia deigns (my new favorite SDMB word) not, in the name of tenure. Tenure is explained to us as a protection for the academic mind against persecution.
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> And for all this time now I’d thought tenure was the power that enabled a professor to decide that the $200 textbook his students were required to purchase was coincidentally the $200 textbook he or she had authored, and if anyone called bullshit on it they could go piss up a rope.

I’m not an expert on such things, but I don’t think the concept of tenure would prevent them from removing him from the position of vice-chair of the department of surgery (which the news article seems to indicate he is). It’s just bordering on impossible to fire him outright given his tenure.

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**Author:** ![RivkahChaya](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rivkahchaya/32/8919_2.png) [@RivkahChaya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RivkahChaya)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2015, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-whole-internet-pits-dr-oz/704454/68 "2015-04-18T18:39:38Z")

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> [@Canadjun](#):
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> I’m not an expert on such things, but I don’t think the concept of tenure would prevent them from removing him from the position of vice-chair of the department of surgery (which the news article seems to indicate he is). It’s just bordering on impossible to fire him outright given his tenure.

“Columbia” isn’t one thing. The president may be on board with removing him from his post, but maybe the department chair isn’t, and that’s who really needs to be, and the department chair just may not want the publicity. Or maybe an ad hoc committee needs to examine the issue, and no one will volunteer for it. Stuff at universities move slowly.

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**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2015, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-whole-internet-pits-dr-oz/704454/69 "2015-04-18T21:24:35Z")

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> [@Boyo\_Jim](#):
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> And Columbia has declined because FREEDOM!

To be fair, it is the department of surgery, and Oz was (is?) a highly regarded surgeon. He’s a quack about everything else.

True to form of Yahoo! commentators, the first dozen or so all came to Dr. Oz defense. Can’t hell people who take pride in ignorance.

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**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2015, 11:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-whole-internet-pits-dr-oz/704454/70 "2015-04-18T23:13:20Z")

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> [@](#):
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> **The whole internet pits Dr. Oz!**

And there was much rejoicing.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2015, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-whole-internet-pits-dr-oz/704454/71 "2015-04-21T20:28:36Z")

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[New WikiLeaks documents reveal the inner workings of the Dr. Oz Show](http://www.vox.com/2015/4/20/8455401/sony-wikileaks-dr-oz).

Sorry, no direct link to those documents. I could lose my job by simply visiting their site.

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**Author:** ![johnpost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f17d59/32.png) [@johnpost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/johnpost)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2015, 10:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-whole-internet-pits-dr-oz/704454/72 "2015-04-23T22:51:51Z")

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NBC Nightly News interview where he says it isn’t a medical show.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2015, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-whole-internet-pits-dr-oz/704454/73 "2015-04-23T23:02:28Z")

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> [@johnpost](#):
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> NBC Nightly News interview where he says it isn’t a medical show.

He’s right about that. 😃

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**Author:** ![74westy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/74westy/32/3950_2.png) [@74westy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/74westy)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2015, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-whole-internet-pits-dr-oz/704454/74 "2015-04-23T23:18:39Z")

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For entertainment purposes only.

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2015, 11:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-whole-internet-pits-dr-oz/704454/75 "2015-04-23T23:22:43Z")

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[Dr. Oz “will not be silenced."](http://www.salon.com/2015/04/23/dr_oz_will_not_be_silenced/)

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**Author:** ![johnpost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f17d59/32.png) [@johnpost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/johnpost)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2015, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-whole-internet-pits-dr-oz/704454/76 "2015-04-23T23:58:48Z")

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> [@johnpost](#):
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> NBC Nightly News interview where he says it isn’t a medical show.

link to it online:

> **[Dr. Oz Strikes Back at Doctors Who Want Him Gone From Columbia](https://www.nbcnews.com/nightly-news/video/dr.-oz-strikes-back-at-doctors-who-want-him-gone-from-columbia-433280579821)**
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> In an exclusive interview with NBC News, Dr. Oz defends his talk show saying, “it’s not a medical show,” as more colleagues come out against him.

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**Author:** ![Wile\_E](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c37758/32.png) [@Wile\_E](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wile_E)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2015, 5:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-whole-internet-pits-dr-oz/704454/77 "2015-04-24T05:38:46Z")

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Posted this in the thread about the wellness blogger. Oz’ answer to his critics was not to provide actual evidence for his position but to dig up dirt about the doctors who sent the letter to Columbia asking them to remove him from his faculty position.

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**Author:** ![GrumpyBunny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bc8723/32.png) [@GrumpyBunny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrumpyBunny)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2015, 12:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-whole-internet-pits-dr-oz/704454/78 "2015-04-24T12:25:47Z")

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> [@hotflungwok](#):
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> “Dr” Oz the quackpot, just like a few other too full of themselves celebs, thought it would be a good idea to [invite questions on Twitter](http://scienceblogs.com/insolence/2014/11/12/americas-quack-dr-oz-asks-people-to-ask-him-questions-on-twitter-hilariously-the-results-arent-quite-what-he-expected/#.VGNtzMeq8AU.twitter). The internet did not disappoint…

I shared that feed with my physician coworkers last year. There was much undignified snickering.

Doctor Oz is a nutburger and anyone who quotes from his show gets an immediate (mental) eye-roll from me.

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