# The 'Why was \[banned person's name\] banned?' thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-why-was-banned-persons-name-banned-thread/86346>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [October 9, 2001, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-why-was-banned-persons-name-banned-thread/86346 "2001-10-09T15:55:04Z")\
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**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2001, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-why-was-banned-persons-name-banned-thread/86346/1 "2001-10-09T15:55:04Z")

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Every. Single. Fucking. Time. _EVERY SINGLE ONE_ That someone’s banned, someone feel the need to either ask “Why was so-and-so banned. I’ve read 27 of his 65 posts and he didn’t seem to be a troll?” or they start a pit-thread protesting the evil-admins.

A) Protests don’t work (nor should they. This ain’t a democracy). Has _anyone_ been un-banned because of a pit-thread?

B) No one owes anyone an explanation. And, as has been said repeatedly, if you want an explanation, e-mail a mod/admin. Answers are rarely forthcoming in a pit-thread.

Well, lemme make life easier for you. In the future, when someone’s banned, just link to this thread. You don’t even need to say anything. Just check off the appropriate boxes. Since nothing will come of the thread (except more spin-off threads which also lead nowhere), this should make life easier for all concerned.

Pick one:  
[_] Dearest Mods and Admins that I respect, love and admire  
[_] Dear (mod’s name here)  
[_] Hey (mod’s name here)! Get your ass in here  
[_] (mod’s name here) yoU VilE pEicE of shiT! WHat thE FUCK!!! do yo thINk yo’re dDOin’!!!

Pick one:  
[_] I note with some dismay that in the course of trimming the deadwood from this board, as it were, you may have inavertantly pruned one of our most valuable and insightful members: (banned person’s name).  
[_] Looks like you banned (banned person’s name).  
[_] Yet again a Mod bans a poster with an upopular position. Fighting ignorance, indeed.  
[_] yu FUCKING crotchmonkey!!! (banned person’s name) was my bestest friend and reason for living!

Pick one:  
[_] While I’m certain you acted with all due consideration, motivated only by the twin desires of justice and mercy, might I suggest that this decision seems to be in error? Would you be so kind as to share some of your insights into this perplexing situation?  
[_] And I’d like to know _why_.  
[_] Why the hell would you ban (banned person’s name)?  
[_] You’d bett4er fucking have av fuckin good reason for banning (banned person’s name) and I want to hear it (hahaha. like you can) now. Or esle

Pick one:  
[_] I feel that given the recent unpleasantness, the use of the word “effluvia” while not strictly in accordance with the rules of GD was the precise word called for at that moment.  
[_] Just because s/he said that s/he hates the entire board and everyone on it doesn’t mean anything.  
[_] They only said that s/he was going to beat the shit out of that other poster. It was meant as a JOKE. What’s the harm of that?  
[_] ONE fuckink link to a pornsite. ONE fucking link to a pronazi site. TWO spam posts. ONE accidental hate-email to everyone on the board. EVERONe makes a miISTake onct in a while.

Pick one:  
[_] While I certainly don’t condone the Faux pas, I feel that a banning over this one instance seems uncharacteristically harsh. Could you explain further your rationale?  
[_] So what’s the problem? All sorts of people say stuff like that, so I don’t get it.  
[_] It’s no big deal. Besides, some of the mods have said worse stuff.  
[_] WHY GaWdDamnit!? It’s not like s/he won’t be back in 10 minutes with a new user name anyway. And you deleted a bunch of the posts that prove mY Point! Nazis.

Pick one:  
[_] Thank you for your consideration of this matter and any answers you choose to give.  
[_] I’d really like some answers. Thanks.  
[_] I want an explanation. Now.  
[_] You’d better UnbBan him or els!

Pick one:  
[_] ps. I really appreciate the hard work you all do.  
[_] ps. Sorry for the tone, but I’m really upset.  
[_] ps. I never believed that all mods are jerks before, but I’m changing my mind.  
[_] ps I hate you.

This concludes the do-it-youself the “Why was [banned person’s name] banned thread” Hope this helps.

Fenris

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**Author:** ![Scylla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a5b964/32.png) [@Scylla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scylla)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2001, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-why-was-banned-persons-name-banned-thread/86346/2 "2001-10-09T15:58:09Z")

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I’d prefer to see this in a Mad Lib’s format.

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**Author:** ![lieu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c2a13f/32.png) [@lieu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lieu)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2001, 4:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-why-was-banned-persons-name-banned-thread/86346/3 "2001-10-09T16:02:59Z")

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Effluvia?

Re: The Charger’s Quarterback?

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**Author:** ![Milossarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/3ec8ea/32.png) [@Milossarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Milossarian)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2001, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-why-was-banned-persons-name-banned-thread/86346/4 "2001-10-09T16:06:44Z")

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I support the job that the monitors do. I swear, I’m not taking sides on this banning.

But it does seem like a double-standard, after **[moderator]** **[took this action]** against **[poster]** in **[that one thread]**.

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**Author:** ![Captain\_Amazing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@Captain\_Amazing](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Amazing)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2001, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-why-was-banned-persons-name-banned-thread/86346/5 "2001-10-09T16:21:27Z")

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I just want to say I fully support **[administrator’s]** to ban **[poster]**. In all of **[poster’s][number of threads]** threads, **[poster]** has not added anything of consequence to this board. For example in **[link to thread]** he called me a(n)**[obscene term]**. You posters, like **[poster2]** and **[poster3]** who are questioning this are just **[obscenity]**.

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**Author:** ![pennylane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/edb3f5/32.png) [@pennylane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pennylane)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2001, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-why-was-banned-persons-name-banned-thread/86346/6 "2001-10-09T16:23:11Z")

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You’re hilarious, **Fenris**!

What about the why-was-this-thread closed/moved threads?

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**Author:** ![hawthorne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@hawthorne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hawthorne)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2001, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-why-was-banned-persons-name-banned-thread/86346/7 "2001-10-09T16:25:38Z")

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Yeah. That happens every time. And _this_ happens every third time.

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**Author:** ![Shayna](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shayna/32/17976_2.png) [@Shayna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shayna)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2001, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-why-was-banned-persons-name-banned-thread/86346/8 "2001-10-09T16:41:35Z")

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Even though you’re entirely correct about the futility of the Pit threads about bannings, I do need to make one minor correction to this:

> [@](#):
>
> Every. Single. Fucking. Time. _EVERY SINGLE ONE_ That someone’s banned, someone feel the need to either ask “Why was so-and-so banned. I’ve read 27 of his 65 posts and he didn’t seem to be a troll?” or they start a pit-thread protesting the evil-admins.

We did have a long-time poster banned just recently, whose banning went completely unchallenged (and rightfully so), and that was **Lexicon**. Sometimes it’s just so obvious why someone was banned, that questioning it would be completely ridiculous. Can you imagine anyone even _thinking_ about posting, “Hey, what’s up with that? All he did was tell **Jodi** to suck his dick in the IMHO forum, and when he was warned by a moderator to knock it off he called said mod a bitch. How is that so wrong? Maybe **Jodi** _likes_ sucking dick and considered it a polite invitation. Ever think of that, dumbass mods??” I mean, who here wouldn’t have laughed their asses off at such an absurd contention?

So no, bannings don’t _always_ end up being questioned in the Pit. But you have to remember that we are comprised of thousands of people who all have extremely varying degrees of sensibilities. What is seen as outrageous rudeness by some, can be viewed with a \<shrug\>, or even as justifiable outrage by others.

This forum was designed, _in part_, as a place where people _can_ discuss their perceptions about the administration of these boards. It’s allowed here. So _sometimes_, people take advantage of the opportunity afforded them to make their feelings known, even if they’re fully aware it won’t change anything. It’s fruitless to do so, but, \<shrug\>.

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I really appreciate your consideration in avoiding stepping on my penis - **Spiny Norman**  
Jeg elsker dig, Thomas

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**Author:** ![Gaudere](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e495f1/32.png) [@Gaudere](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gaudere)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2001, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-why-was-banned-persons-name-banned-thread/86346/9 "2001-10-09T17:23:36Z")

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Sorry, Shayna, but you’re wrong. Here’s Lexicon’s Pit thread: [Here](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=84724). Even Lexi’s banning got the classic “[poster a] did and got away with it, though!”, “[Moderator c] sucks!”, “[Poster x] just got banned for not sucking up to [moderator b]!” and “you misunderstood him calling you a [insult]!”

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**Author:** ![CrankyAsAnOldMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crankyasanoldman/32/11670_2.png) [@CrankyAsAnOldMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CrankyAsAnOldMan)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2001, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-why-was-banned-persons-name-banned-thread/86346/10 "2001-10-09T17:29:29Z")

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Beautiful, Fenris.

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**Author:** ![Shayna](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shayna/32/17976_2.png) [@Shayna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shayna)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2001, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-why-was-banned-persons-name-banned-thread/86346/11 "2001-10-09T17:51:11Z")

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> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by Gaudere \*  
> \*\*Sorry, Shayna, but you’re wrong. Here’s Lexicon’s Pit thread: [Here](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=84724). Even Lexi’s banning got the classic “[poster a] did and got away with it, though!”, “[Moderator c] sucks!”, “[Poster x] just got banned for not sucking up to [moderator b]!” and “you misunderstood him calling you a [insult]!” \*\*

Well, I managed, somehow, to miss that thread.

[Disclaimer] I don’t have time to read all 3 pages, but I did look through the first page [/Disclaimer] and unless it went on a total tangent **that was not intended by the OP** , I wouldn’t classify that as the kind of thread our dear **Fenris** is referring to here. Again, at least not as far as the OP goes, which simply said:

> [@](#):
>
> Wait… what happened to Lexicon?
> 
> Truly banned? What happened?

Seems to me the OPer simply noticed the BANNED marking under his name and inquired as to why it happened. The entire first page, not one person took up in **Lexicon** ’s defense and only 1 person even remarked in a general way about seeing inconsistencies in the way the board is administered, yet acknowledged that he could very well be wrong in his perceptions. If _other_ posters took that thread in some other direction on or after page 2, that’s hardly the fault of the person who simply wondered why a particular poster had been banned and asked about it. That hardly qualifies that thread as an “I don’t _understand_ why said poster was banned” or an “I don’t _agree_ with the banning of said poster.”

So, I don’t think that makes my contention wrong at all. The OPer did _not_ **challenge** the banning, they merely inquired about what caused it.

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**Author:** ![Ethilrist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ethilrist/32/4604_2.png) [@Ethilrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ethilrist)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2001, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-why-was-banned-persons-name-banned-thread/86346/12 "2001-10-09T17:51:38Z")

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Could we get a Haiku version, please?

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**Author:** ![Slip\_Mahoney](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e47774/32.png) [@Slip\_Mahoney](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slip_Mahoney)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2001, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-why-was-banned-persons-name-banned-thread/86346/13 "2001-10-09T18:26:16Z")

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Priceless, **Fenris.**

Say, why was **schmuck** banned but not **putz?**

They were both assholes, so neither one should have been banned.

Maybe the mods play favourites. Hmmmm…

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**Author:** ![Sweet\_Sota\_Girl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a587f6/32.png) [@Sweet\_Sota\_Girl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sweet_Sota_Girl)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2001, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-why-was-banned-persons-name-banned-thread/86346/14 "2001-10-09T18:36:15Z")

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If I’m not mistaken, the Admin does actually have a way of figuring it out when a banned member creates a new userid so that they can continue to post.

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**Author:** ![ultress](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/7c8e57/32.png) [@ultress](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ultress)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2001, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-why-was-banned-persons-name-banned-thread/86346/15 "2001-10-09T18:49:18Z")

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Ok, I know at least one poster that totally agrees with me on this. **Fenris** this is classic and truly does belong in ThreadSpotting if I can get it there. I couldn’t even finish reading it because I’m at work and people were beginning to come to my desk to see if I was ok. So I’ll have to print it off and finish it in the ladies’ room.  
Now we even have posters in the Pit wanting to discuss banning, but in a nice and polite way, after one thread’s already been closed. Ignorance is bliss and some people are just in heaven.  
Thanks for making my day. No truer words were ever typed. But ya know what? They’ll still go over somebody’s head and we’ll have the thread again at the next banning. Hopefully everyone will mark this thread to make it easier to just check the correct answer and keep on going.

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**Author:** ![Gaudere](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e495f1/32.png) [@Gaudere](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gaudere)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2001, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-why-was-banned-persons-name-banned-thread/86346/16 "2001-10-09T18:55:24Z")

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> [@](#):
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> So, I don’t think that makes my contention wrong at all.

::shrug:: The Fenris quote you cited both referenced starting a pit thread AND simply asking why so-and-so was banned, and you claimed that did not happen in Lexi’s case. You said his banning was completely unchallenged, that no one would even _think_ of questioning it, that such was an “absurd” contention and you implied that everyone would have laughed their asses off at it. That was incorrect.

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**Author:** ![lenin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/3bc359/32.png) [@lenin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lenin)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2001, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-why-was-banned-persons-name-banned-thread/86346/17 "2001-10-09T19:06:32Z")

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Did someone say… **haiku??!**

_Ahem_

**The Ban**

Sultan Kinkari  
He pushed, he shoved, he was dumb  
Like all of the rest

Every banning  
Someone jumps to the defense  
Obligatory

They might have been shit  
They might have been stupid trolls  
But hey, we love 'em

It won’t unban him  
But we do it anyway  
What is the damn point?

“Moderators suck!”  
“This guy wuz the uber-best!”  
“BRING HIM BACK NWO BTCHI!!!111”

We point and chortle  
Yet it will always come up  
Why to they help twats?

Get a clue and read  
This guy was a huge wanker  
Open your damn eyes

Read all of his posts  
See what an asshole he was  
That’s why he was banned

So shut up, sit down  
Face the facts, he’s banned for good  
Soon we forget him

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**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2001, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-why-was-banned-persons-name-banned-thread/86346/18 "2001-10-09T19:16:23Z")

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😃 😃 😃 😃 😃

Fenris, that was your magnum opus, my friend. Two thumbs up plus an erection! Marvelous. Marvelous. Good good stuff. (Please note that I have never awarded 5 laughies before.)

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**Author:** ![Shayna](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shayna/32/17976_2.png) [@Shayna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shayna)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2001, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-why-was-banned-persons-name-banned-thread/86346/19 "2001-10-09T19:36:42Z")

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**Gaudere** , I’m really not in the mood to pick nits back and forth with you, so I’ll see if I can clarify this point one last time and be done with it.

There is a very distinct difference between, “Why was so-and-so banned, **I missed it**?” and ““Why was so-and-so banned. I’ve read 27 of his 65 posts and **he didn’t seem to be a troll**?” or [starting] a pit-thread **protesting** the evil-admins.”

The OPer of that thread wasn’t protesting Lexicon’s banning, they merely wondered what happened to cause it. That _is_ different than the type of OP **Fenris** is referring to here.

Not _every_ banning here is challenged (hell, I’ll bet many of them aren’t even noticed because you guys act so fast finding socks and ridding us of their evil presence). That’s really all I was trying to say. Can we at least agree on that?

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**Author:** ![wring](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/838e76/32.png) [@wring](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wring)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2001, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-why-was-banned-persons-name-banned-thread/86346/20 "2001-10-09T19:39:41Z")

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but, but but, by doing this, **Fenris** we’ll cut down the posting in the pit by at least a third, which means that one mod would be out of their unpaid job!?!?!!

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