# The Wife bought a new TV

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-wife-bought-a-new-tv/781355>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [March 4, 2017, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-wife-bought-a-new-tv/781355 "2017-03-04T02:08:47Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 9\
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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2017, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-wife-bought-a-new-tv/781355/21 "2017-03-06T20:40:44Z")

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> [@treis](#):
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> Bad idea. Especially with an articulating mount like that. When extended it causes a twisting motion away from the wall. The dry wall anchors aren’t great at resisting that. Having 1" worth of panel between the dry wall and the mount makes it worse.

The bolts are supposed to support 50 pounds each. I used seven of them (I over-tightened one, and broke the flange) instead of four lag bolts. That should be sufficient. There is no reason to extend the TV away from the wall, so there is not that large a moment acting on the wall plate. Also, there is no drywall. If we had drywall, I could find the studs.

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**Author:** ![ftg](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ftg/32/2801_2.png) [@ftg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ftg)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2017, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-wife-bought-a-new-tv/781355/22 "2017-03-06T21:09:44Z")

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> [@treis](#):
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> I used this:
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> [https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00GWGZKF6/ref=oh\_aui\_detailpage\_o05\_s02?ie=UTF8&th=1](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00GWGZKF6/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o05_s02?ie=UTF8&th=1)
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> Super easy and code compliant.

Umm, no it isn’t. You need a Romex-grade power cable running from a standard junction box or breaker panel to a standard outlet box. The power cable needs to be attached (stapled) at suitable intervals and near the boxes. Etc. Etc.

Basically an in-wall extension cord is a _bad_ idea.

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**Author:** ![Projammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/projammer/32/559_2.png) [@Projammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Projammer)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2017, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-wife-bought-a-new-tv/781355/23 "2017-03-06T22:25:06Z")

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I installed cable plates with mine. One behind the TV and one behind the component stand.

[Recessed Low Voltage Cable Plate](https://www.amazon.com/DataComm-45-0001-WH-1-Gang-Recessed-Voltage/dp/B00193U3O0)

My power cord was long enough to reach through, but I could have bought a longer one on Amazon too.

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**Author:** ![gigi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a587f6/32.png) [@gigi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gigi)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2017, 11:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-wife-bought-a-new-tv/781355/24 "2017-03-06T23:40:49Z")

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> [@jtur88](#):
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> You should have waited for the KDL46EX646 to come out, it was a great improvement. A legendary machine, that model name has become a household word. The KDL46EX645’s are nothing but trouble.

🙂

> [@Cartooniverse](#):
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> Bitch, you’re the infamous **Johnny L.A.**!!! She needs to find a stud, she has but to cast a sly sidewards glance in your general direction.

“Wall mounting” – so that’s what the kids are calling it these days.

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**Author:** ![treis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bc79bd/32.png) [@treis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/treis)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2017, 1:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-wife-bought-a-new-tv/781355/25 "2017-03-07T01:51:20Z")

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> [@ftg](#):
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> Umm, no it isn’t. You need a Romex-grade power cable running from a standard junction box or breaker panel to a standard outlet box. The power cable needs to be attached (stapled) at suitable intervals and near the boxes. Etc. Etc.
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> Basically an in-wall extension cord is a _bad_ idea.

As far as I can tell it is romex and definitely not an in-wall extension cord. They claim that it’s code compliant and I found the product based on several articles saying that it is. If you feel it’s not please provide a cite saying so.

> [@Projammer](#):
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> My power cord was long enough to reach through, but I could have bought a longer one on Amazon too.

Not a great idea either. Standard power cords aren’t rated for in wall use.

> [@Johnny L.A.](#):
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> The bolts are supposed to support 50 pounds each. I used seven of them (I over-tightened one, and broke the flange) instead of four lag bolts. That should be sufficient.

I speak from experience on this. I installed a ~50 pound floating TV unit with dry wall anchors totaling 300 lbs of rated load. Everything was fine until it fell down a few hours after I installed it. If you read the fine print of that load rating, you will find it is rated for flush to the wall. Here for example:

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> 50 lb. weight capacity is for items hung flush to wall and may be less for those hung out from wall, like shelving

[http://www.homedepot.com/p/E-Z-Ancor-Twist-N-Lock-50-lb-Drywall-Anchors-with-Screws-25-Pack-25200/100133106](http://www.homedepot.com/p/E-Z-Ancor-Twist-N-Lock-50-lb-Drywall-Anchors-with-Screws-25-Pack-25200/100133106)

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**Author:** ![ftg](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ftg/32/2801_2.png) [@ftg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ftg)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2017, 1:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-wife-bought-a-new-tv/781355/26 "2017-03-07T13:28:46Z")

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> [@treis](#):
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> As far as I can tell it is romex and definitely not an in-wall extension cord. They claim that it’s code compliant and I found the product based on several articles saying that it is. If you feel it’s not please provide a cite saying so.

The link went to a version of the product that definitely doesn’t have Romex. Apparently another version does. But still there would be issues with proper boxes and securing the wire. The latter is impossible to do without ripping out some of the wall for most people. (I actually have an exposed wall on the other side, allowing “easy” install of Romex and boxes, but since I am not a licensed electrician I opted not to get into all that.)

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**Author:** ![TruCelt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/trucelt/32/523_2.png) [@TruCelt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TruCelt)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2017, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-wife-bought-a-new-tv/781355/27 "2017-03-07T15:17:31Z")

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> [@Johnny\_L.A](#):
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> The thing about the new TV is that it interfered with chores. A couple of trees snapped in December, due to weighty snow. I finally had a chance to cut them down a couple of weeks ago. Friday, I was planning to saw the larger pieces into 16" logs for the fireplace next year. Saturday was sunny. But the TV came, and I had to spend Saturday getting the wall mount (50 mile round trip), making two trips to the hardware store, putting everything together, and hooking it up (after making the traditional hashbrowns, bacon, and eggs for breakfast). This morning we awoke to snow. Who knows when I’ll get to cut the logs?

Hey, priorities! The important thing is you’ve got a great new TV to watch while you sip your hot chocolate!

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2017, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-wife-bought-a-new-tv/781355/28 "2017-03-07T17:05:53Z")

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> [@TruCelt](#):
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> Hey, priorities! The important thing is you’ve got a great new TV to watch while you sip your hot chocolate!

And we happen to [have some](http://i5.walmartimages.com/asr/c555ce1d-423a-47b9-b76c-5e226a718002_1.8b62634f213cd097bffb30900610105c.jpeg). 🙂

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**Post date:** [March 7, 2017, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-wife-bought-a-new-tv/781355/29 "2017-03-07T20:17:15Z")

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> [@ftg](#):
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> The link went to a version of the product that definitely doesn’t have Romex. Apparently another version does. But still there would be issues with proper boxes and securing the wire. The latter is impossible to do without ripping out some of the wall for most people. (I actually have an exposed wall on the other side, allowing “easy” install of Romex and boxes, but since I am not a licensed electrician I opted not to get into all that.)

Oh please. This isn’t rocket science. You can run a power cord through a non-insulated wall a few feet without issue. There is nothing dangerous about it. I’ve done it in all 4 wall-mounted TV installations in my house.

I’ve never understood why securing NM electrical wiring to a stud is not a terrible idea, even though it’s code. Seems to me an easy way to get electrocuted if you miss a stud by a hair while trying to mount a hanger or whatever.

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