# The Windows 10 free upgrade thread
**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-windows-10-free-upgrade-thread/721329
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share
**Created:** [June 1, 2015, 1:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-windows-10-free-upgrade-thread/721329 "2015-06-01T13:02:17Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author:  [@stui\_magpie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/stui_magpie)
#### Post date: [August 17, 2015, 2:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-windows-10-free-upgrade-thread/721329/142 "2015-08-17T02:39:47Z")
I did the upgrade and it killed my sound. I tried all the suggestions I found on how to get it working and none worked, so I would back to Windows 7 again until Realtek gets their shit together.
I was told that if you do the standard install, Windows 10 is totally chock full of spyware reporting your every move. Any thoughts on that from anyone? I figure Google already knows everything I do, why shouldn’t Microsoft share the love.😛
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### Author:  [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)
#### Post date: [August 17, 2015, 4:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-windows-10-free-upgrade-thread/721329/143 "2015-08-17T04:22:00Z")
I had to replace my headphones yesterday, after having installed Windows 10, and up popped a prompt asking me what I was trying to do. **stui magpie** , click on the Volume icon and see if anything pops up.
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### Author:  [@stui\_magpie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/stui_magpie)
#### Post date: [August 17, 2015, 5:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-windows-10-free-upgrade-thread/721329/144 "2015-08-17T05:48:39Z")
Tried that Rick,
I uninstalled and reinstalled the drivers several times, got different ones, tried every trick I could Google from people who had fixed the same issue. None of them worked.
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### Author:  [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)
#### Post date: [August 17, 2015, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-windows-10-free-upgrade-thread/721329/145 "2015-08-17T19:47:44Z")
> [@Skywatcher](#):
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> No thanks to the Microsoft help desk. Woman kept wanting to remote into my computer and I kept trying to tell her that nothing works! Then she wanted to get a technician involved (to the tune of $99.99) and Comcast. So I hung up.
I’ve since discovered that I was actually on a bait site set up by some of them “Windows” callers. Good thing my computer _wouldn’t_ let them remote in!
I’ve disabled my screen saver. Maybe this thing will stop freezing now.
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### Author:  [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)
#### Post date: [August 17, 2015, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-windows-10-free-upgrade-thread/721329/146 "2015-08-17T19:53:37Z")
> [@Skywatcher](#):
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> I’ve disabled my screen saver. Maybe this thing will stop freezing now.
At a different job, PCs would have screen saver problems if they had low memory.
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### Author:  [@GargoyleWB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GargoyleWB)
#### Post date: [August 17, 2015, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-windows-10-free-upgrade-thread/721329/147 "2015-08-17T20:45:06Z")
New discovery…since moving to Win 10, I’ve come across a couple of 3rd party software programs that “forgot” they were registered, so I had to go find and dig out the old registration keys to reactivate them.
As someone who once lost my game decoder wheel from Pool of Radiance back in the 80’s when near to the end game and still haven’t emotionally recovered, I keep that stuff obsessively now.
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### Author:  [@Amateur\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Amateur_Barbarian)
#### Post date: [August 17, 2015, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-windows-10-free-upgrade-thread/721329/148 "2015-08-17T21:00:53Z")
> [@Skywatcher](#):
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> I’ve since discovered that I was actually on a bait site set up by some of them “Windows” callers.
How on earth did you get to a scam site while thinking you were calling MS?
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### Author:  [@JayRx1981](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JayRx1981)
#### Post date: [August 17, 2015, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-windows-10-free-upgrade-thread/721329/149 "2015-08-17T22:10:01Z")
The only problem I’ve had since installing 10 is that my laptop now shows two devices missing drivers (I opted to have the install program remove everything when I upgraded–I like to start fresh), and I can’t figure out what they are. That’s probably my fault though. Otherwise, Windows 10 is working pretty well here. I don’t miss the Start Screen at all on my laptop.
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### Author:  [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)
#### Post date: [August 18, 2015, 3:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-windows-10-free-upgrade-thread/721329/150 "2015-08-18T03:12:33Z")
Hell with this. Rolling back to 7 until Microsoft gets 10 to the point where it stays thawed. And removes the 512 item limit from All Programs.
> [@Amateur\_Barbarian](#):
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> How on earth did you get to a scam site while thinking you were calling MS?
Reverse it. Thought I was on a Microsoft site and called that number.
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### Author:  [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)
#### Post date: [August 18, 2015, 5:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-windows-10-free-upgrade-thread/721329/151 "2015-08-18T05:17:42Z")
> [@Skywatcher](#):
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> Hell with this. Rolling back to 7 until Microsoft gets 10 to the point where it stays thawed. And removes the 512 item limit from All Programs.
I can’t even begin to wrap my head around having more than 512 items in All Programs. (I have twelve.)
But if for some reason you really want that many items, maybe consider [Classic Shell](http://www.classicshell.net/).
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### Author:  [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)
#### Post date: [August 18, 2015, 5:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-windows-10-free-upgrade-thread/721329/152 "2015-08-18T05:50:59Z")
Who even uses the ‘All Apps’ list? I mean, sure, if it’s there, it’s bad that it is incomplete (and I guess they’ll fix the 512 item limit pretty quickly), but scrolling through an alphabetised list of over half a thousand items? Where does that get fun?
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### Author:  [@JustinC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JustinC)
#### Post date: [August 18, 2015, 11:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-windows-10-free-upgrade-thread/721329/153 "2015-08-18T11:08:40Z")
> [@stui\_magpie](#):
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> Tried that Rick,
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> I uninstalled and reinstalled the drivers several times, got different ones, tried every trick I could Google from people who had fixed the same issue. None of them worked.
Not sure if it’ll help, but I had Win10 installed while having my external speakers connected. The laptop’s speakers wouldn’t work afterwards, but I’ve got them working again after playing with SmartAudio - switching between 'Classic and ‘Multi-Stream’ - which (I think) came with Win8.
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### Author:  [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)
#### Post date: [August 18, 2015, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-windows-10-free-upgrade-thread/721329/154 "2015-08-18T16:27:26Z")
> [@Mangetout](#):
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> Who even uses the ‘All Apps’ list? I mean, sure, if it’s there, it’s bad that it is incomplete (and I guess they’ll fix the 512 item limit pretty quickly), but scrolling through an alphabetised list of over half a thousand items? Where does that get fun?
I’d like to populate the right pane with things I actually use, which can’t done if the things I actually use don’t appear anywhere on the left. Like in All Apps.
No, I tried telling things to Pin to Start. Nothing happened.
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### Author:  [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)
#### Post date: [August 18, 2015, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-windows-10-free-upgrade-thread/721329/155 "2015-08-18T19:35:17Z")
> [@Skywatcher](#):
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> I’d like to populate the right pane with things I actually use, which can’t done if the things I actually use don’t appear anywhere on the left. Like in All Apps.
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> No, I tried telling things to Pin to Start. Nothing happened.
Pin to Start creates a tile, not a Start Menu shortcut (it wasn’t clear from the above whether you expected this).
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### Author:  [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)
#### Post date: [August 18, 2015, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-windows-10-free-upgrade-thread/721329/156 "2015-08-18T19:52:19Z")
> [@Mangetout](#):
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> Pin to Start creates a tile…
Didn’t get one of them, either.
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### Author:  [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)
#### Post date: [August 18, 2015, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-windows-10-free-upgrade-thread/721329/157 "2015-08-18T20:08:35Z")
If you search for an app by name then pin the result, does that work? (not proposing this as a solution, just curious)
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### Author:  [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)
#### Post date: [August 18, 2015, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-windows-10-free-upgrade-thread/721329/158 "2015-08-18T20:33:43Z")
> [@Mangetout](#):
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> If you search for an app by name then pin the result, does that work?
Tried this as well. Also tried Pin to Start from the Start Menu folder.
IME, Pin to Start should be renamed Pin to Ether.
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### Author:  [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)
#### Post date: [August 18, 2015, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-windows-10-free-upgrade-thread/721329/159 "2015-08-18T20:36:32Z")
I guess it must be related to the other issue - maybe it can’t enumerate the application ID properly or something.
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### Author:  [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)
#### Post date: [August 18, 2015, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-windows-10-free-upgrade-thread/721329/160 "2015-08-18T20:47:06Z")
This is all moot for me anyway, having completed rollback to 7 late last night. At least this doesn’t require being completely powered down for ~6 hours after a freeze.
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### Author:  [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)
#### Post date: [August 18, 2015, 11:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-windows-10-free-upgrade-thread/721329/161 "2015-08-18T23:08:37Z")
Son of a bitch keeps offering to install.
Is there an HP 2600 driver for Windows 10?
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