Because the only way to keep challenging your brain is to adapt completely pointless interface changes. We should all be thanking any company that completely reinvents how you do things, because they are helping us. We can’t spend that time actually learning things that have value–it must be relearning things because they’ve arbitrarily been made different. We are at the whims at everyone else–we can’t control our own property.
Look, if you enjoy learning new ways to do old things, that’s fine. But it’s hardly an argument for Windows 8. Your logic could be used for absolutely any change, whether it’s better or worse. You can’t base an argument on “it’s good because it’s different.”
Or, to sum it up simply: he can choose to exercise his brain with new things instead of messing with the old things he already knows.
It kinda does. Because his viewpoint was “I don’t want to upgrade to Windows 10 because I didn’t like what they did with Windows 8.” I never understood your viewpoint that you needed to defend Windows 8.
He didn’t like that the games and DVD stuff was missing and required you to get an outside program, use the app store, and (c) use metro versions of the games. He didn’t like the lack of the start menu. He didn’t like the Start Screen and how it didn’t have the taskbar or how the All Apps button had things laid out. He didn’t like the charms bar, which is completely useless in Desktop mode. And he didn’t like anything about Metro/ModernUI.
Nothing you say is going to make him like it, and he doesn’t need to like it since everything I mentioned is not a problem in Windows 10. Even Microsoft sees those complaints as legitimate, hence the need to fix them.
In the world of subjective opinions, you really can’t get more right than that.
I don’t think the upgrade will go through the existing App Store, so it shouldn’t be a problem.
But I have to take something back in what I said in my previous post. Microsoft had previously said they were including a DVD player option, but they seem to have backed out of that, so you’ll still need a third party solution like VLC. And it seems they will not be including the main games by default.
So that is, unfortunately, still relevant. And, frankly, I think it’s a dumb move on their part. I realize the DVD thing can be a licensing issue and would normally give them slack on it, but they already specifically said they would provide it. And they could easily just have the new versions of Minesweeper, Hearts, and Solitaire preloaded.
They all have easy workarounds, don’t get me wrong. It won’t be a problem for me. But their goal is to get everyone to upgrade, and there are people who will refuse to upgrade over these. A large portion of computer users don’t ever tweak anything.
In a bit, I’ll post the workarounds to keep everything really easily.
For DVDs: install VLC. Put a DVD in the drive, and you’ll be asked what to do with it. Choose to use VLC and check the “always do this” (or similar) option.
Do you have anything to actually argue with my actual point, or are you just going to nitpick my word choice? Is the desire to defend Windows 8 so strong that you have to grasp at anything?
Yes, it has a point, but that point was not to improve anything but to get users used to a new interface. An interface that is going away for Desktop.
Windows 8 is over. There’s no more debate. Microsoft themselves threw in the towel. Read what I wrote to Mangetout. This desire to defend something that isn’t well liked is insane.
I haven’t gotten The Button yet. Automatic updates are turned off on my system though; would this have something to do with it? I would like to install Windows 10 before the one year upgrade period expires, but I definitely want to know about any major issues first, so I’ll wait for a while.
I skipped Vista based on all the crap I heard; I ended up running my poor Windows XP machine into the ground before I bought a new Windows 7 computer. When that crashed, I had a choice between 7 and 8.1. I ended up going with 8.1…I figured I might as well give it a try, since 7 won’t be around forever. I haven’t regretted it; I didn’t lose any programs, and my printer even seems to work a bit better now. I’ve even grown to enjoy the Live Tiles. The only thing that really pissed me off about the upgrade experience was that my Windows 7 file backups couldn’t be restored on Windows 8.1; fortunately, I had up-to-date alternate backups, so I didn’t lose anything.
There’s stuff worth buying in the Microsoft App Store?
I’m thinking I’d like to buy a new SSD and do a clean install on that. I wonder if that will be possible? I might go to the Microsoft Store at the mall tomorrow and ask someone.
My understanding is that you can’t do a clean install through the free upgrade program. I guess you could do a fresh install of Windows 7/8 and upgrade that.
My major annoyance is that each time I log onto a Windows 8 PC for the first time it goes through that instruction crap for several minutes.
Working on them is a bitch for me.
I don’t have it either, and I DO have auto updates on. According to the FAQ I should have it, I just… don’t. :dubious:
Can someone explain how that works without having an install disk?
One of the reasons I moved to a home-built computer rather than a pre-fab from the likes of Dell is the time my OS basically collapsed and I didn’t have an install disk to rescue/reinstall it with, because it was OEM and they never sent me one. Kinda don’t want to go through that again.
The first time a user logs on, there is a tutorial.
I work on the damn things, and if I have not logged on as an admin to a networked PC, I get the damn tutorial and have to wait through it to fix my user’s computer.
