# The Wisconsonian "yet" **URL:** \ **Category:** Factual Questions\ **Created:** [July 17, 2010, 1:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-wisconsonian-yet/547029 "2010-07-17T13:24:12Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Snickers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/5daacb/32.png) [@Snickers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snickers)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2010, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-wisconsonian-yet/547029/41 "2010-07-19T20:09:47Z")
> [@Slithy\_Tove](#): > > [Here’s one guy’s compendium](http://www.bratwurstpages.com/dialect.html). Interesting that he (or whomever) misspelled “Menomonie.” But oh well. ---
**Author:** ![goldmund](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a4c791/32.png) [@goldmund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/goldmund)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2010, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-wisconsonian-yet/547029/42 "2010-07-19T20:34:10Z")
> [@Snickers](#): > > “Bubbler” is strictly Milwaukee. Say that in Eau Claire and people’ll look at you funny. But “come with” is in full force (and is awesome, BTW). Bring/take and loan/borrow is madness, however. Maybe you mean “strictly Milwaukee, within Wisconsin”. It’s by no means unique to there, though. I grew up in Rhode Island (Roe Dyelin) and it is fairly standard there. So much so that now, I’ve been out of the state for some fifteen years and I still have to consciously remind myself not to call it that, or people won’t understand me. Ugh. I lived in Minneapolis for a couple years and “come with” drove me crazy. As did “can you borrow me a dollar?” Not as much as: > [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > “Yet” used that way is slightly redundant, I’ll concede, but I hear it all the time (born and raised in NE Ohio). > > In recent years I’ve noticed “anymore” used in lieu of “these days,” like so: > > Gas prices are so high anymore. > It’s gotten so hot anymore. > Anymore, it’s like Frank isn’t even trying. This is one of the two grammatical constructs I find absolutely grating. It makes me cringe every time I hear it. Ugh, ugh, ugh. And it’s on the rise. I notice that a lot of folks that use this will also say things like: “The car needs fixed.” “The floor needs mopped.” “The software needs patched.” That one’s the other construct that makes me die a little inside when I see or hear it. ---
**Author:** ![fiddlesticks](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fiddlesticks/32/18129_2.png) [@fiddlesticks](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fiddlesticks)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2010, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-wisconsonian-yet/547029/43 "2010-07-19T21:45:55Z")
Bubblers were bubblers in Neenah, Wisconsin in the 1970s. That’s in Northeastern Wisconsin about a half hour south of Green Bay. Hardly Milwaukee, we got the Green Bay TV stations. 🙂 Can’t say that the trailing “yet” rings a bell as a speech pattern of my youth though. “Come with” was absolutely normal everyday language though. ---
**Author:** ![johnpost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f17d59/32.png) [@johnpost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/johnpost)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2010, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-wisconsonian-yet/547029/44 "2010-07-19T21:47:17Z")
i think bubbler became used where Kohler institutional plumbing fixtures where heavily marketed. ---
**Author:** ![goldmund](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a4c791/32.png) [@goldmund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/goldmund)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2010, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-wisconsonian-yet/547029/45 "2010-07-19T22:00:15Z")
Veering off-topic more on the bubbler tangent, but this is fairly interesting. Here’s a map from a Harvard dialect survey showing regional use of “bubbler”, “water fountain” and “drinking fountain”. [http://csumc.wisc.edu/wep/map.htm](http://csumc.wisc.edu/wep/map.htm) ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2010, 10:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-wisconsonian-yet/547029/46 "2010-07-19T22:30:12Z")
Grew up in Green Bay. Bubbler is the common word there, too (the Harvard map corroborates my impression, that it was mostly an eastern Wisconsin thing). “Come with” was another common phrase when I was growing up, though the “with” often winds up sounding like “wit”, as the Belgian-influened accent common in and around Green Bay tends to make “th” into “t”. Another stereotypical term, like “yet”, for ending a sentence, is “once”, at least around Green Bay. When we were in college, at UW-Madison, we joked that the ultimate Green Bay phrase is, “Oh, cri-hey, trow me tree beers once, hey?” (Translation: “Oh, christ, throw me three beers?”) ---
**Author:** ![eenerms](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/cdc98d/32.png) [@eenerms](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eenerms)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2010, 6:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-wisconsonian-yet/547029/47 "2010-07-20T06:13:13Z")
When I moved to Madison, Wisconsin bubbler was used. I was confused when someone told me the room was right past the bubbler. I was looking for a bubblegum machine.🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Fish\_Nya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/8edcca/32.png) [@Fish\_Nya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fish_Nya)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2010, 6:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-wisconsonian-yet/547029/48 "2010-07-20T06:50:53Z")
Man, this thread is bringing back memories. My whole family is from Neenah and I was born in Sheboygan. “Bubbler” is still something I sometimes let slip and it never ceases to confuses others. Of course, now that I live in Atlanta, everything is Coke and I use soda sparingly. I’ve never noticed my relatives using “yet,” though. One does say “ya” a lot. ---
**Author:** ![fiddlesticks](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fiddlesticks/32/18129_2.png) [@fiddlesticks](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fiddlesticks)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2010, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-wisconsonian-yet/547029/49 "2010-07-20T15:35:40Z")
I had to break the habit of saying “Tyme Machine” for ATM when I moved away from Wisconsin. TYME (Take Your Money Everywhere) was the pioneer ATM network in Wisconsin and very successfully ingrained their name into the state’s consciousness. ---
**Author:** ![johnpost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f17d59/32.png) [@johnpost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/johnpost)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2010, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-wisconsonian-yet/547029/50 "2010-07-20T16:21:36Z")
> [@fiddlesticks](#): > > I had to break the habit of saying “Tyme Machine” for ATM when I moved away from Wisconsin. TYME (Take Your Money Everywhere) was the pioneer ATM network in Wisconsin and very successfully ingrained their name into the state’s consciousness. it was the first shared ATM network in the nation i believe. i recall that because it ran on IBM OS2 to provide a robust network and it came up in some propellerhead discussion. ---
**Author:** ![tallcoldone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e9a140/32.png) [@tallcoldone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tallcoldone)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2010, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-wisconsonian-yet/547029/51 "2010-07-20T17:17:12Z")
Isn’t “stop and go light” a Wisconsinism for a traffic light? ---
**Author:** ![Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/qadgop_the_mercotan/32/83_2.png) [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qadgop_the_Mercotan)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2010, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-wisconsonian-yet/547029/52 "2010-07-20T17:40:47Z")
> [@tallcoldone](#): > > Isn’t “stop and go light” a Wisconsinism for a traffic light? Ya, you betcha! Man oh manischewitz what a world, ain’a? ---
**Author:** ![slime](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c89c15/32.png) [@slime](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/slime)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2010, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-wisconsonian-yet/547029/53 "2010-07-20T19:25:14Z")
My favorite Wisconsonian/polish expression is “You two must be related, because you look together in the face when you stand next to each side by each.” I’ve heard side by each and together in the face used seperatly but its a rare treat when you get to hear the whole shebang used in all its Wisconsonian glory. _translation_ you must be related because you look the same as you stand next to each other. I also remember growing up reading the Green Sheet in the Milwaukee Urinal/Journal, They would have theit little bits of Milwaukee-ese. Ex: Thow me down the stairs a broom. or Where the corner bends the sreetcar around. ---
**Author:** ![brossa](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/brossa/32/3040_2.png) [@brossa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brossa)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2010, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-wisconsonian-yet/547029/54 "2010-07-21T01:03:46Z")
Yoos guys from around here, and so? Bubbler for me, growing up in Manitowoc. Bubbler in T’rivrs, too, just up the coast. Oddly enough, I was looking at [this](http://shop.wisconsinhistory.org/productcart/pc/viewPrd.asp?idcategory=17&idproduct=628) earlier today. Carbonated soft drinks are sodas, not pops, and only slackjawed yokels claim otherwise. Sadly, this includes my wife’s family. But they’re from so far west in the state that they’re actually Vikings fans, so nobody cares what they think. I have to third the ‘tyme machine’ reference. I have lost track of the number of startled stares that I’ve gotten after asking where the nearest tyme machine is. Is it still a term in current use in Wisconsin, or has it fallen to ‘cash machine’ or ‘atm’? Heck, while I’m at it: at my last visit to Madison I got a chuckle out of [these](http://www.sconnie.com/) and [these](http://wiskullsin.bigcartel.com/category/tees). Represent! Sadly, my folks haven’t been 4 -1-f **cking-4 since the big split of 1997. Nine two f** king zero lacks that punchy alliteration. ---
**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2010, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-wisconsonian-yet/547029/55 "2010-07-21T18:35:53Z")
> [@Leaffan](#): > > It gets dropped into sentences here by some folks as a synonym for “still.” > > “Boy, it’s hot out there yet.” > > I have a feeling that it’s influenced by a large number of people with a Polish heritage in the Ottawa valley, but I could be completely mistaken on that. Could that be the reason in Wisconsin? > [@MeanOldLady](#): > > Yes. My favorite is the redundant use. “We still have time yet.” I had to get used to all kinds of weirdisms when I moved to the Midwest. This use of “yet” is also common in Minnesota. Don’t get me started on the borrow/loan debacle. > [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > “Yet” used that way is slightly redundant, I’ll concede, but I hear it all the time (born and raised in NE Ohio). > > In recent years I’ve noticed “anymore” used in lieu of “these days,” like so: > > Gas prices are so high anymore. > It’s gotten so hot anymore. > Anymore, it’s like Frank isn’t even trying. > [@Trom](#): > > In my experience growing up in MN, many people also throw “then” on the end of sentences. Seems similar to the WI “yet.” > > “So, we’re gonna go to the store then.” > "What do you think the point of this piece is then? > “Do you want to ride with Jim or Sue then?” > “I guess that’s the end of the movie then.” > > Is this common outside the upper Midwest? > [@DJ\_Motorbike](#): > > Example: > > We were cleaning up the shop, picking up all the nuts, bolts, washers and what not when we heard the phone ring. I’m from Western Pennsylvania, but have also lived in Denver, and now live in Tucson. None of these seems weird or out of place to me. It doesn’t bother me when people speak like any of these examples. I probably don’t even notice. But they all seem very natural to me. I’m likely to use more than one of these in everyday conversation. And what not. ---
**Author:** ![Snickers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/5daacb/32.png) [@Snickers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snickers)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2010, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-wisconsonian-yet/547029/56 "2010-07-21T21:20:38Z")
Oooh, Tyme machine, good one! Ja, I still call it that pretty frequently, but here in Minnesota everyone knows what I’m talking about anyway. One thing that everyone from my neck of the woods (western WI) is used to saying is “The Cities.” As in, “I’m going up to The Cities this weekend, wanna come with?” I didn’t realize that not everyone in the country knows that I’m referring to the Twin Cities of Minneapolis/St. Paul when I say that. I said it to friends in Tulsa while recounting a story. Their blank looks clued me in. ---
**Author:** ![Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/qadgop_the_mercotan/32/83_2.png) [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qadgop_the_Mercotan)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2010, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-wisconsonian-yet/547029/57 "2010-07-21T21:55:02Z")
The cities: Manitowoc and Trivers Neenah and Menasha Superior and Duluth Millersville and Howards Grove 😃 ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2010, 1:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-wisconsonian-yet/547029/58 "2010-07-22T01:29:30Z")
You can tell if someone’s really from Wisconsin if: - They don’t pronounce the I or the L in Milwaukee (M’waukee) - They pronounce Green Bay as two separate words (not Greenbay, as a lot of non-native sportscasters like to say) ---
**Author:** ![brossa](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/brossa/32/3040_2.png) [@brossa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brossa)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2010, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-wisconsonian-yet/547029/59 "2010-07-22T02:19:18Z")
> [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](#): > > The cities: > > Manitowoc and Trivers > > Neenah and Menasha > > Superior and Duluth > > Millersville and Howards Grove > > 😃 Redgranite and Lohrville ---
**Author:** ![Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/qadgop_the_mercotan/32/83_2.png) [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qadgop_the_Mercotan)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2010, 12:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-wisconsonian-yet/547029/60 "2010-07-22T12:22:11Z")
> [@brossa](#): > > Redgranite and Lohrville I’ve been to Redgranite, but missed visiting Lohrville. ☹ [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-wisconsonian-yet/547029.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-wisconsonian-yet/547029.md?page=4)