# The Wonderfalls World of Lesbian Kissing

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-wonderfalls-world-of-lesbian-kissing/313167>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [July 19, 2005, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-wonderfalls-world-of-lesbian-kissing/313167 "2005-07-19T17:52:08Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 10\
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**Author:** ![The\_Controvert](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/dec6dc/32.png) [@The\_Controvert](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Controvert)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2005, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-wonderfalls-world-of-lesbian-kissing/313167/1 "2005-07-19T17:52:08Z")

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Several unaired episodes of Wonderfalls to air this summer…

[http://tv.yahoo.com/feature/summertv.html](http://tv.yahoo.com/feature/summertv.html)

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**Author:** ![Lightnin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightnin/32/180_2.png) [@Lightnin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightnin)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2005, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-wonderfalls-world-of-lesbian-kissing/313167/2 "2005-07-19T17:57:26Z")

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I’ve got the DVD. It rocks. Watch it.

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**Author:** ![Kent\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kent_clark/32/105_2.png) [@Kent\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kent_Clark)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2005, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-wonderfalls-world-of-lesbian-kissing/313167/3 "2005-07-19T18:00:23Z")

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What is the Logo Network? My cable system hasn’t said anything about carrying it.

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**Author:** ![Cliffy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/59ef9b/32.png) [@Cliffy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cliffy)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2005, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-wonderfalls-world-of-lesbian-kissing/313167/4 "2005-07-19T18:38:45Z")

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Logo is a new gay-themed network. Like all new cable networks, it doesn’t air in a lot of places yet.

The show just gets better and better, by the way, so if you don’t get Logo, buy the DVD.

–Cliffy

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**Author:** ![Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Otto)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2005, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-wonderfalls-world-of-lesbian-kissing/313167/5 "2005-07-19T18:42:05Z")

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LOGO is a new Viacom channel featuring programming of primary interest to the LGBT communities. I started a thread about its debut a couple of weeks back. Some interesting-looking commercial programming but the movies are edited for content, which is absolutely ridiculous.

And speaking of absolutely ridiculous, may I have this Kristin person’s job? On the worst day of my brief writing career I never constructed a sentence as poorly as

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> Like little Stewie of Family Guy before them, the cast of Fox’s tragically short-lived Wonderfalls has made a triumphant comeback on the Logo Network.

Makes it sound like _Family Guy_ is on LOGO, which it’s not.

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**Author:** ![Homebrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@Homebrew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Homebrew)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2005, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-wonderfalls-world-of-lesbian-kissing/313167/6 "2005-07-19T20:08:23Z")

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> [@Otto](#):
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> Some interesting-looking commercial programming but the movies are edited for content, which is absolutely ridiculous.

I think it’s because Viacom was situating it as a extended basic channel like its other MTV and VH1 networks. I don’t know about other cable systems, but Charter here in Saint Louis has it placed up in the Movie Tier and stationed next to Showtime so the bowlderizing seems absurd. However if it was down near MTV you can see why they’d cut Showgirls and _bleed_ the “bad words” just as they do when they show it on VH1. But at least on the _Torch Song Trilogy_ they do show the guys in bed together, which is more than you can say for Will & Grace.

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**Author:** ![FriarTed](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/friarted/32/1052_2.png) [@FriarTed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FriarTed)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2005, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-wonderfalls-world-of-lesbian-kissing/313167/7 "2005-07-19T21:06:19Z")

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LOGO is supposedly on my digital cable system but I guess I gotta call the cable company to get it. It replaced VH1 Hits, which I liked & I thought “Well, I have no use for LOGO”, then I saw they were gonna air Heavenly Creatures and The Hunger, and then I found I couldn’t get it w/o a special request. So I gotta make that call.

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**Author:** ![saoirse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/5daacb/32.png) [@saoirse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/saoirse)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2005, 12:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-wonderfalls-world-of-lesbian-kissing/313167/8 "2005-07-20T00:13:48Z")

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> Bryan Fuller tells me he’s thrilled: “With political conservatives and the religious right peeing themselves about the ‘homo problem,’ it’s an honor to see Wonderfalls be a part of Logo’s launch. \*\*And since Fox kept telling us we couldn’t have two women kiss, it’s ironic to land on a network where the ladies can kiss all they want.” \*\*

(bolding mine)

I’ve never seen the show. I wish it all the best.

**But that is NOT ironic.** (bolding mine)

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**Author:** ![Cliffy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/59ef9b/32.png) [@Cliffy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cliffy)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2005, 12:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-wonderfalls-world-of-lesbian-kissing/313167/9 "2005-07-20T00:22:23Z")

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No, that’s a proper use of the word irony.

Also ironic – that the word is over and misused so terribly, it’s now impossible to use it correctly without drawing criticism.

–Cliffy

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2005, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-wonderfalls-world-of-lesbian-kissing/313167/10 "2005-07-20T00:42:27Z")

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I’d’ve used “amusing” instead of “ironic”, but since “ironic” can mean “with results dramatically different than intended”, I can’t say the use was incorrect.
