# The Word "Frustrate" has TWO "R's"!!!!! **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 21, 2003, 2:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-word-frustrate-has-two-rs/214491 "2003-11-21T14:14:05Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![feppytweed](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/feppytweed/32/4280_2.png) [@feppytweed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/feppytweed)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2003, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-word-frustrate-has-two-rs/214491/81 "2003-11-24T15:33:25Z")
Also, i have a teacher who says, "I’m sorrell (sorry), and then things like “i will see you tomorroll.” “bring in your test now. no ecceptions.”. She has a daughter named shelby. her last name is ashley, so Mrs ashley will be talking about her daughter and say, “my daughter, shebby ashwey…” ---
**Author:** ![spogga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3ab097/32.png) [@spogga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/spogga)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2003, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-word-frustrate-has-two-rs/214491/82 "2003-11-24T15:41:21Z")
Ned Flanders wouldn’t stand a chance in this thread. Okely dokely ---
**Author:** ![Wikkit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c0e974/32.png) [@Wikkit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wikkit)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2003, 12:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-word-frustrate-has-two-rs/214491/83 "2003-11-25T00:08:03Z")
A cow-orker says “supposably”. Drives me batty. He’s from the same region as I am, so a dialect difference explanation is BS. ---
**Author:** ![umop\_ap\_sdn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/dbc845/32.png) [@umop\_ap\_sdn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/umop_ap_sdn)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2003, 4:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-word-frustrate-has-two-rs/214491/84 "2003-11-25T04:06:00Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by kambuckta \* > **our classiness is lost when we seek to show our superiority by pointing out other people’s linguistic shortcomings.** What about when people pronounce picture “pitcher”? (That one bugs me to no end. I’m surprised no-one’s mentioned it yet.) Is it such a bad thing to insist on the correct pronounciation of a word so as not to confuse it with another word? ---
**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2003, 4:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-word-frustrate-has-two-rs/214491/85 "2003-11-25T04:24:33Z")
> [@](#): > > What about when people pronounce picture “pitcher”? (That one bugs me to no end. I’m surprised no-one’s mentioned it yet.) Is it such a bad thing to insist on the correct pronounciation of a word so as not to confuse it with another word? “Hey, can you pass me that pitcher of Kool-aid?” “Hey, can you hand me that pitcher of the kids?” Context helps. I mean, you don’t get confused between the words ‘sail’ and ‘sale’, right? ---
**Author:** ![Wikkit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c0e974/32.png) [@Wikkit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wikkit)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2003, 4:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-word-frustrate-has-two-rs/214491/86 "2003-11-25T04:37:48Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by BayleDomon \* > \*\*Context helps. I mean, you don’t get confused between the words ‘sail’ and ‘sale’, right? \*\* Eye grue completely. We shoulder min no words in language. ---
**Author:** ![G-RAY](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/d9b06d/32.png) [@G-RAY](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/G-RAY)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2003, 4:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-word-frustrate-has-two-rs/214491/87 "2003-11-25T04:41:07Z")
WARSH as in “Oh no my gremlin is dirty. I guess its time to WARSH the car” It is like taking a file, putting it between my teeth, biting down and pulling it out. ---
**Author:** ![Ptahlis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/a8b319/32.png) [@Ptahlis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ptahlis)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2003, 4:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-word-frustrate-has-two-rs/214491/88 "2003-11-25T04:42:30Z")
**kambuckta** , **sundog66** , and **Zoe** : Have you not noticed that this is the Pit? This is where people come to post about shit that irritates them. Now, sometimes it’s really BIG stuff that makes people really, really mad, like war, prejudice, murder and the like. Other times it’s tiny little irritating things like the co-worker who laughs like a hyena, someone’s relative’s unapologetic flatulence, or even people who speak in ways we dislike. Although I appreciate your educating all of us about the fact that there are differing dialects out there, (Who knew!) could you superior types please let us mere mortals have our fun sharing our pointless bitching? ---
**Author:** ![Ptahlis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/a8b319/32.png) [@Ptahlis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ptahlis)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2003, 4:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-word-frustrate-has-two-rs/214491/89 "2003-11-25T04:47:53Z")
There! Now I’ve bitched about their bitching about our bitching! ---
**Author:** ![calm\_kiwi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/9fc348/32.png) [@calm\_kiwi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/calm_kiwi)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2003, 4:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-word-frustrate-has-two-rs/214491/90 "2003-11-25T04:53:55Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Spectre of Pithecanthropus \* > \*\*Thanks to advancing technology, we now hear of “plosma TVs.” Makes me wince every time. \*\* Hey! Don’t mock our accent. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![WhereAmI](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c2a13f/32.png) [@WhereAmI](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WhereAmI)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2003, 5:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-word-frustrate-has-two-rs/214491/91 "2003-11-25T05:14:55Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Ptahlis \* > \*\*There! Now I’ve bitched about their bitching about our bitching! \*\* : And your bitching about them bitching about your bitching made me laugh so hard my hubby woke up. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![CanvasShoes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/74df32/32.png) [@CanvasShoes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CanvasShoes)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2003, 6:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-word-frustrate-has-two-rs/214491/92 "2003-11-25T06:28:38Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by G-RAY \* > \*\*WARSH as in “Oh no my gremlin is dirty. I guess its time to WARSH the car” It is like taking a file, putting it between my teeth, biting down and pulling it out. \*\* My mom does that occasionally for some weird reason, and we tease the heck out of her, especially (arggh PUH lease not e[bx]pecially) since she’s not from a region for which that is a common pronunciation. And especially since she drilled into us (since we were little) appropriate grammar and pronunciation. If people in our family mispronounce a word, (and we’re not from a state that has any type of accent, so if we screw up, it’s not dialect, or an “accent” that we can blame), we catch hell for it from the others. And yeah, laughing about the bitching, about the bitching about the bitching, and so on. If someone has a dialect or strong accent it’s one thing, that doesn’t bother me, but when it’s a person who is obviously well-educated, and it’s almost as if they are purposely mispronouncing, or using a particular word in an incorrect way that it gives me that “fingernails on a chockboard” feeling. ---
**Author:** ![umop\_ap\_sdn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/dbc845/32.png) [@umop\_ap\_sdn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/umop_ap_sdn)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2003, 8:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-word-frustrate-has-two-rs/214491/93 "2003-11-25T08:02:52Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by BayleDomon \* > \*\*“Hey, can you pass me that pitcher of Kool-aid?” > > “Hey, can you hand me that pitcher of the kids?”\*\* I should probably point out that I spend a lot of time around dipshits who would just say “gimme the pitcher” or even more commonly, “gimme the… umm… thing.” Context is a luxury here. I know I’ve ranted about that here somewhere before. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![umop\_ap\_sdn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/dbc845/32.png) [@umop\_ap\_sdn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/umop_ap_sdn)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2003, 8:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-word-frustrate-has-two-rs/214491/94 "2003-11-25T08:05:37Z")
Oh, I just remembered. Another speech pattern that bugs me. Pronouncing “exit” with a voiced X. Egg zit!?!? ---
**Author:** ![Rebo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rebo/32/13005_2.png) [@Rebo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rebo)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2003, 1:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-word-frustrate-has-two-rs/214491/95 "2003-11-25T13:19:07Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by CanvasShoes \* > \*\*…that it gives me that “fingernails on a _chockboard_” feeling. \*\* Did you say “chockboard” on porpoise? 😃 ---
**Author:** ![missbunny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/76d3ee/32.png) [@missbunny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/missbunny)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2003, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-word-frustrate-has-two-rs/214491/96 "2003-11-25T16:12:17Z")
I’ve heard twice in the past couple of weeks people on HGTV shows - where they should know the term - pronounce “faux” as “fox” or “folks.” As in, “Here is a great [fox] finish paint technique.” I can’t understand why they didn’t cut, correct the person, and reshoot. It’s not like the shows were live. ---
**Author:** ![curly\_chick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/7ba0ec/32.png) [@curly\_chick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/curly_chick)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2003, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-word-frustrate-has-two-rs/214491/97 "2003-11-25T16:32:28Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by cityboy916 \* > \*\*Oh, I just remembered. Another speech pattern that bugs me. Pronouncing “exit” with a voiced X. > > Egg zit!?!? \*\* That interests me. Mostly everything else on here is a dialect or speech pattern I’ve heard in real life or on the telly. But exit? Never heard anyone pronounce it any way apart from egg zit. Enlighten me - how do you pronounce it? ---
**Author:** ![Dung\_Beetle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dung_beetle/32/7945_2.png) [@Dung\_Beetle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dung_Beetle)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2003, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-word-frustrate-has-two-rs/214491/98 "2003-11-25T16:41:44Z")
Eck-sit. ---
**Author:** ![Swampwolf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/8edcca/32.png) [@Swampwolf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Swampwolf)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2003, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-word-frustrate-has-two-rs/214491/99 "2003-11-25T17:47:34Z")
Dialect is one thing. Doesn’t bother me in the least. Enunciation is another. Bugs me a bit, but I’m over it. Pronunciation is something completely different. If you don’t know how to pronounce a word, use a sinnamyn\*, for crying out loud! Communication is something we use in our everyday lives. If we can’t communicate clearly, we can’t properly be understood. This goes for both verbal and written communication. Someone who cannot pronounce words correctly comes across as being uneducated, or just plain stupid. Sure, we should accept natural language drift to a degree, but dammit, we have to draw the line somewhere! If we don’t, where’s it going to end? We can take it to an extreme, and fe rull qif gykkord hip nu bleg\*\* [sub] _yes, I know. It’s a joke **pronounced "it will end up looking like this"** _ \*\*\*which actually _means_ “shut your pie-holes. Words have specific pronunciations and spellings, so use them properly.”[/sub] ---
**Author:** ![emekthian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ecae2f/32.png) [@emekthian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/emekthian)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2003, 3:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-word-frustrate-has-two-rs/214491/100 "2003-11-26T03:28:27Z")
> [@](#): > > We can take it to an extreme, and fe rull qif gykkord hip nu bleg\*\* You’re really going to hate English in 3000 > [@](#): > > 2000 AD: We children beg you, teacher, that you should teach us to speak correctly, because we are ignorant and we speak corruptly… > 3000 AD: \*ZA kiad w’-exùn ya tijuh, da ya-gAr’-eduketan zA da wa-tAgan lidla, kaz 'ban iagnaran an wa-tAg kurrap… [http://www.xibalba.demon.co.uk/jbr/futurese.html](http://www.xibalba.demon.co.uk/jbr/futurese.html) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-word-frustrate-has-two-rs/214491.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-word-frustrate-has-two-rs/214491.md?page=6)